Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2005-10-15 Thread Raymond Lillard

Francisco Valladolid wrote:

Abit A8XV Pro work fine.


I assume you intended to say Abit A8VX Pro.
It's a minor nit, until you type it into Google.  ;-)


On 10/11/05, Simon Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I'm interested in building a machine for use as an OpenBSD workstation and
would appreciate any recommendations on AMD64 motherboards that are well
supported. I assume there are people on this list using OpenBSD as their
primary OS and would be interested to hear what you're using.

This would be a damned sight easier if manufacturers didn't insist on
including everything but the kitchen sink on-board and failing to document
which chipsets they're using. Can you even buy desktop motherboards that
don't come with on-board sound and network these days?

Any advice is appreciated.

Simon

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BSD - Unix simplicity.
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Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2005-10-15 Thread Simon Morgan
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 01:25:59PM -0500, Francisco Valladolid wrote:
 Abit A8XV Pro work fine.

Thanks to everyone for their recommendations. I've had 3 for the A8V
series of motherboards so I went and bought one. Although the
installation boots fine, when it comes time to copy files across I get a
bunch of:

cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28
SENSE KEY: Hardware Error
 ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x08 ASCQ 0x03

errors. I don't suppose anybody has any ideas? I'm assuming it's not the
IDE chipset which only leaves the drive itself which has worked
perfectly in all other situations.

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Has a hexahedronical ball,
And the cube of its weight
Times his pecker's, plus eight
Is his phone number -- give him a call.



Re: pf tables and interface groups

2005-10-15 Thread Henning Brauer
* Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-12 17:17]:
 no, I managed to miss implementing the static expansion, the way more 
 complicated dynamic expansion for interface groups works fine. I'll add 
 the static one asap.

so here's the diff for that.
disclaimer: I hacked that at a conference, beeing dead tired, careful 
reading  testing appreciated.

Index: pfctl_parser.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sbin/pfctl/pfctl_parser.c,v
retrieving revision 1.220
diff -u -p -r1.220 pfctl_parser.c
--- pfctl_parser.c  13 Oct 2005 13:27:06 -  1.220
+++ pfctl_parser.c  13 Oct 2005 14:36:35 -
@@ -66,6 +66,7 @@ void   print_fromto(struct pf_rule_addr 
struct pf_rule_addr *, u_int8_t, u_int8_t, int);
 int ifa_skip_if(const char *filter, struct node_host *p);
 
+struct node_host   *ifa_grouplookup(const char *, int);
 struct node_host   *host_if(const char *, int);
 struct node_host   *host_v4(const char *, int);
 struct node_host   *host_v6(const char *, int);
@@ -1165,10 +1166,28 @@ struct node_host *
 ifa_exists(const char *ifa_name)
 {
struct node_host*n;
+   struct ifgroupreq   ifgr;
+   int s;
 
if (iftab == NULL)
ifa_load();
 
+   /* check wether this is a group */
+   if ((s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)) == -1)
+   err(1, socket);
+   bzero(ifgr, sizeof(ifgr));
+   strlcpy(ifgr.ifgr_name, ifa_name, sizeof(ifgr.ifgr_name));
+   if (ioctl(s, SIOCGIFGMEMB, (caddr_t)ifgr) == 0) {
+   /* fake a node_host */
+   if ((n = calloc(1, sizeof(*n))) == NULL)
+   err(1, calloc);
+   if ((n-ifname = strdup(ifa_name)) == NULL)
+   err(1, strdup);
+   close(s);
+   return (n);
+   }
+   close(s);
+
for (n = iftab; n; n = n-next) {
if (n-af == AF_LINK  !strncmp(n-ifname, ifa_name, IFNAMSIZ))
return (n);
@@ -1178,11 +1197,56 @@ ifa_exists(const char *ifa_name)
 }
 
 struct node_host *
+ifa_grouplookup(const char *ifa_name, int flags)
+{
+   struct ifg_req  *ifg;
+   struct ifgroupreqifgr;
+   int  s, len;
+   struct node_host*n, *h = NULL, *hn;
+
+   if ((s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)) == -1)
+   err(1, socket);
+   bzero(ifgr, sizeof(ifgr));
+   strlcpy(ifgr.ifgr_name, ifa_name, sizeof(ifgr.ifgr_name));
+   if (ioctl(s, SIOCGIFGMEMB, (caddr_t)ifgr) == -1) {
+   close(s);
+   return (NULL);
+   }
+
+   len = ifgr.ifgr_len;
+   if ((ifgr.ifgr_groups = calloc(1, len)) == NULL)
+   err(1, calloc);
+   if (ioctl(s, SIOCGIFGMEMB, (caddr_t)ifgr) == -1)
+   err(1, SIOCGIFGMEMB);
+
+   for (ifg = ifgr.ifgr_groups; ifg  len = sizeof(struct ifg_req);
+   ifg++) {
+   len -= sizeof(struct ifg_req);
+   n = ifa_lookup(ifg-ifgrq_member, flags);
+   if (h == NULL)
+   h = n;
+   else {
+   for (hn = h; hn-next != NULL; hn = hn-next)
+   ;   /* nothing */
+   hn-next = n;
+   n-tail = hn;
+   }
+   }
+   free(ifgr.ifgr_groups); 
+   close(s);
+
+   return (h);
+}
+
+struct node_host *
 ifa_lookup(const char *ifa_name, int flags)
 {
struct node_host*p = NULL, *h = NULL, *n = NULL;
int  got4 = 0, got6 = 0;
const char   *last_if = NULL;
+
+   if ((h = ifa_grouplookup(ifa_name, flags)) != NULL)
+   return (h);
 
if (!strncmp(ifa_name, self, IFNAMSIZ))
ifa_name = NULL;



Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2005-10-15 Thread Simon Morgan
On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 10:11:08AM +0100, Simon Morgan wrote:
 cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28
 SENSE KEY: Hardware Error
  ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0x08 ASCQ 0x03

Fixed by switching normal IDE cable for 80-conductor Ultra DMA cable.

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An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while
sweeping on to the grand fallacy.



scponly vs. vsftpd

2005-10-15 Thread ccc51536
Hi, 

I am currently working with one of our file servers. Users need access to the 
server from where they live and so far I have been using sshd with scponly.

I have used scponly because I don't want them to have a shell.

The problem with the setup is that not al the users may access all the files. 
So far it has been handled with chmod to the different directories but this 
solution isn't working well.

I am then currently looking at two solutions.

1. Continue using scponly but with chroot and then linking the directories 
inside their home directories.
2. Using vsftpd which support ssl both on login and on the data transfer 
(prefered), and then using the buildin support for jailing users. Then linking 
the directories inside their home directories.

I am unsure which solution is the best, and if there perhaps is another even 
better solution.

Advice and experiences is needed :-)

Best regards, 
Rico.



route problem

2005-10-15 Thread man Chan
Hello,

I have a route problem in setting up my home network. 
Here is the layout of it:

internet
   |
obsd3.6 (fw)
   | 192.168.1.254
   |
switch (wired)
   |
   | 192.168.1.230 (vr0 wired)
   |
obsd-3.8 
   |
   | 192.168.2.1 (ral0 wireless)
   |
clients (Xp)

My problem is: the XP can ssh to the obsd-3.8 through
wirelss.  However it cannot access the internet.

Thanks

clarence


ifconfig at 192.168.1.230
=
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu
33224
groups: lo 
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
ral0:
flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST
mtu 1500
lladdr 00:12:17:68:80:74
media: IEEE802.11 autoselect hostap
status: active
ieee80211: nwid obsd-group chan 6 bssid
00:12:17:68:80:74 100dBm 
inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast
192.168.2.255
inet6 fe80::212:17ff:fe68:8074%ral0 prefixlen
64 scopeid 0x1
vr0:
flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST
mtu 1500
lladdr 00:0d:87:b4:63:8f
groups: egress 
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX
full-duplex)
status: active
inet 192.168.1.230 netmask 0xff00
broadcast 192.168.1.255
inet6 fe80::20d:87ff:feb4:638f%vr0 prefixlen
64 scopeid 0x2
pflog0: flags=0 mtu 33224
pfsync0: flags=0 mtu 1348
enc0: flags=0 mtu 1536
bridge0: flags=41UP,RUNNING mtu 1500
groups: bridge 




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Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD

2005-10-15 Thread Petr Ruzicka
Happy dirthday OpenBSD !
Do someting in Czech Republic and I'll be more that glad to pay you a
beer (or two :o)


Petr R.

On 10/14/05, Khalid Ahsein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  HAPPY BIRTHDAY OPENBSD 
  
 \   ^__^
  \  (oo)\___
 (__)\   )\/\
 ||w |
 || ||


 10`s years :)





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Re: trouble with file system

2005-10-15 Thread MK
Ok, I tried to check the file system from single user mode. FSCK said that 
all mount points had been already marked as clean. But when I boot OS 
normally I show same problem as before.


- Original Message - 
From: Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: MK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: trouble with file system



On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, MK wrote:

This situation is wired for me and I do not understand it. Can somebody 
help?

Thanks a lot


Checking a fs while mounted is not very handy, since inconsistencies
will be reported: the fs is being modified while fsck runs. fsck is
trying to tell you that by reverting to NOWRITE operation.

-Otto




Re: route problem

2005-10-15 Thread Marcus Lindemann
man Chan wrote:

Hello,

I have a route problem in setting up my home network. 
Here is the layout of it:

internet
   |
obsd3.6 (fw)
   | 192.168.1.254
   |
switch (wired)
   |
   | 192.168.1.230 (vr0 wired)
   |
obsd-3.8 
   |
   | 192.168.2.1 (ral0 wireless)
   |
clients (Xp)

My problem is: the XP can ssh to the obsd-3.8 through
wirelss.  However it cannot access the internet.

Thanks

clarence


ifconfig at 192.168.1.230
=
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu
33224
groups: lo 
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
ral0:
flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST
mtu 1500
lladdr 00:12:17:68:80:74
media: IEEE802.11 autoselect hostap
status: active
ieee80211: nwid obsd-group chan 6 bssid
00:12:17:68:80:74 100dBm 
inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast
192.168.2.255
inet6 fe80::212:17ff:fe68:8074%ral0 prefixlen
64 scopeid 0x1
vr0:
flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST
mtu 1500
lladdr 00:0d:87:b4:63:8f
groups: egress 
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX
full-duplex)
status: active
inet 192.168.1.230 netmask 0xff00
broadcast 192.168.1.255
inet6 fe80::20d:87ff:feb4:638f%vr0 prefixlen
64 scopeid 0x2
pflog0: flags=0 mtu 33224
pfsync0: flags=0 mtu 1348
enc0: flags=0 mtu 1536
bridge0: flags=41UP,RUNNING mtu 1500
groups: bridge 




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Hi,
do you have ip forwarding enabled? See man afterboot(8) Check routing
table section for how to do it.

BR
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Re: route problem

2005-10-15 Thread Greg Thomas
On 10/15/05, man Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I have a route problem in setting up my home network.
 Here is the layout of it:

 internet
 |
 obsd3.6 (fw)
 | 192.168.1.254 http://192.168.1.254
 |
 switch (wired)
 |
 | 192.168.1.230 http://192.168.1.230 (vr0 wired)
 |
 obsd-3.8
 |
 | 192.168.2.1 http://192.168.2.1 (ral0 wireless)
 |
 clients (Xp)

 My problem is: the XP can ssh to the obsd-3.8 through
 wirelss. However it cannot access the internet.

 As I mentioned before you probably don't have a route on your 3.6 box to
your 192.168.2.0 http://192.168.2.0 network. And do your pf rules on the
3.6 box allow the 192.168.2.0 http://192.168.2.0 network to reach the
internet?
 Greg



Re: route problem

2005-10-15 Thread Greg Thomas
On 10/15/05, Marcus Lindemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 man Chan wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have a route problem in setting up my home network.
 Here is the layout of it:
 
 internet
  |
 obsd3.6 (fw)
  | 192.168.1.254 http://192.168.1.254
  |
 switch (wired)
  |
  | 192.168.1.230 http://192.168.1.230 (vr0 wired)
  |
 obsd-3.8
  |
  | 192.168.2.1 http://192.168.2.1 (ral0 wireless)
  |
 clients (Xp)
 
 My problem is: the XP can ssh to the obsd-3.8 through
 wirelss. However it cannot access the internet.
 
 Thanks
 
 clarence
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 do you have ip forwarding enabled? See man afterboot(8) Check routing
 table section for how to do it.

 As per a previous message of his ip forwarding is enabled.
 Greg



Re: trouble with file system

2005-10-15 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, MK wrote:

 Ok, I tried to check the file system from single user mode. FSCK said that all
 mount points had been already marked as clean. But when I boot OS normally I
 show same problem as before.

Please do not top post.

Maybe I did not make myself clear. You should net fsck a file system while it
is mounted. It will produce unreliable results. 

-Otto

 
 - Original Message - From: Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: misc@openbsd.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: trouble with file system
 
 
  On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, MK wrote:
  
   This situation is wired for me and I do not understand it. Can somebody
   help?
   Thanks a lot
  
  Checking a fs while mounted is not very handy, since inconsistencies
  will be reported: the fs is being modified while fsck runs. fsck is
  trying to tell you that by reverting to NOWRITE operation.
  
  -Otto



cdio playback stops

2005-10-15 Thread Jeff Roach
Hello,

Just have a possible bug to report and want to make sure before sending it.
I am trying to play an audio cd with cdio and it stops after a little while.
The cd plays fine with xcd.

dmesg | grep cd0

cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, RW/DVD GCC-4120B, 2.02 SCSI0
5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2

I have turned debug on in cdio but I'm not sure where to read that info.

Jeff



回覆: Re: route problem

2005-10-15 Thread man Chan
--- Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;!!G

 On 10/15/05, man Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I have a route problem in setting up my home
 network.
  Here is the layout of it:
 
  internet
  |
  obsd3.6 (fw)
  | 192.168.1.254 http://192.168.1.254
  |
  switch (wired)
  |
  | 192.168.1.230 http://192.168.1.230 (vr0 wired)
  |
  obsd-3.8
  |
  | 192.168.2.1 http://192.168.2.1 (ral0 wireless)
  |
  clients (Xp)
 
  My problem is: the XP can ssh to the obsd-3.8
 through
  wirelss. However it cannot access the internet.
 
  As I mentioned before you probably don't have a
 route on your 3.6 box to
 your 192.168.2.0 http://192.168.2.0 network. And
 do your pf rules on the
 3.6 box allow the 192.168.2.0 http://192.168.2.0
 network to reach the
 internet?
  Greg
 
 

Thanks Greg. I finally fixed all the problems.  Since
I added another AP machine (192.168.3.1) for testing
purpose, I may mesh up something.  The next step for
my case is to make the wireless channel excrypted. 
Any pointers ?  Thanks.

Clarence

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10 years T-shirt

2005-10-15 Thread emmanuel.jarri

Hi,

is there a new t-shirt planned for the 10 years anniversary ?

What about a t-shirt with a slogan like :
10 years of loyalty
Puffy goes from loyalty to loyalty
10 years devoted to quality
...
any fine slogan like those are already in use.
(this slogan generator could help ? http://thesurrealist.co.uk/slogan.cgi)


Its price could be greater than the others, to make t-shirts more 
profitable.




wi(4) or wicontrol broken

2005-10-15 Thread Ludwig Mises
I upgraded to OPENBSD_3_8_BASE (after first upgrading to the snapshot from
10/14) and wicontrol no longer seems to work:

# wicontrol wi0
wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN (0xfd0b): Invalid argument

I notice that there was one change to sbin/wicontrol/wicontrol.c and a few
changes to sys/dev/ic/if_wi.c but I'm not sure which of these is the cause
of the problem. Any ideas?