Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 08:40:15PM +0200, Enache Adrian wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:03:31AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: So your problem seems to be that rsync -S is inefficient to the point where it is not useable. I do not use rsync a lot, so I do not know if there's a solution to

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Richard Toohey
On 10/11/2007, at 10:05 AM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Otto Moerbeek wrote: stat -s gives the raw info in one go. Some shell script hacking should make it easy to detect sparse files. Thanks Otto for the suggestion. That might help until it can be address for good. It would help speed up some

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 03:47:10PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: On 11/9/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for example, a source file that is sparse badly, don't really have allocated disk block yet, but when copy over, via scp, or rsync will actually use

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Richard Toohey
On 10/11/2007, at 9:11 PM, Richard Toohey wrote: (my $dev,my $ino,my $mode,my $nlink,my $uid,my $gid,my $rdev,my $size,my $atime,my $mtime,my $ctime,my $blksize,my $blocks) =sat($f); Oops - should end with: =stat($f); not =sat($f);

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:11:27PM +1300, Richard Toohey wrote: On 10/11/2007, at 10:05 AM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Otto Moerbeek wrote: stat -s gives the raw info in one go. Some shell script hacking should make it easy to detect sparse files. Thanks Otto for the suggestion. That might

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Richard Toohey
On 10/11/2007, at 9:32 PM, Otto Moerbeek wrote: yeah, look at stat(2): int64_tst_blocks; /* blocks allocated for file */ u_int32_t st_blksize; /* optimal file sys I/O ops blocksize */ actually st_blocks's unit is disk sectors, to be precise. I don't read perl, so I cannot comment on

google team and the DIY way of life

2007-11-10 Thread xavier brinon
from the Official Google Blog Posted by Reza Behforooz, Software Engineer In my first month at Google, I complained to a friend on the Gmail team about a couple of small things that I disliked about Gmail. I expected him to point me to the bug database. But he told me to fix it myself, pointing

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2007-11-10 Thread Otto Moerbeek
Forgat to send to the list. -Otto - Forwarded message from Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:36:20 +0100 From: Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard Toohey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick

Re: Powered by obsd stickers and other stuff

2007-11-10 Thread Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo
El sC!b, 10-11-2007 a las 03:04 -0300, Limaunion escribiC3: IC1igo Tejedor Arrondo wrote: El sC!b, 10-11-2007 a las 01:18 +0100, IC1igo Tejedor Arrondo escribiC3: oops The sources (5.3Mm at 33k of upload): http://inigo.homeunix.net/art.tgz It is:

Problems with authpf

2007-11-10 Thread Johan Linner
Hi, Just installed a new firewall using flashdist and 4.2. When trying to authenticate by authpf we get the following error: pfctl: /dev/fd/4: Permission denied Unable to modify filters ls -la /dev/fd/4 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 22, 4 Nov 6 17:03 /dev/fd/4 Don't now if this is a related

[solved] Re: problem installing some packages on 4.2

2007-11-10 Thread Ivo Chutkin
Hello Juan-Philippe, Thank you for opening my eyes :-))) I installed xbase42 and everything goes nice and smooth. Thanks a lot. Regards, Ivo Jean-Philippe Luiggi wrote: Hello Ivo, Did you check : http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade42.html because libexpat is now shipped with X (until 4.3). Just

Re: Powered by obsd stickers and other stuff

2007-11-10 Thread Jona Joachim
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:18:42 +0100, Iqigo Tejedor Arrondo wrote: Hello all Some art, at slw spanish foul asymetric connection. The sources are xcf, at 1600x1200. Clarify that I am not a designer :) I have make the typical Powered by stickers:

CVS server out of memory on anga.funkfeuer.at

2007-11-10 Thread Paulo Rodriguez
Hello misc, Just wanted to notify of the following. During checkout of -current code for Xenocara on anga, the following happens: ... CVS server: updating xenocara/font/misc-misc U xenocara/font/misc-misc/10x20.bdf CVS [server aborted]: out of memory; can not allocate 2937909 bytes If I

Re: Solved - Problems with authpf

2007-11-10 Thread Johan Linner
Johan Linner skrev: Hi, Just installed a new firewall using flashdist and 4.2. When trying to authenticate by authpf we get the following error: pfctl: /dev/fd/4: Permission denied Unable to modify filters ls -la /dev/fd/4 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 22, 4 Nov 6 17:03 /dev/fd/4 Don't now

Re: google team and the DIY way of life

2007-11-10 Thread Karthik Kumar
Not again! On Nov 10, 2007 3:01 PM, xavier brinon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the Official Google Blog Posted by Reza Behforooz, Software Engineer In my first month at Google, I complained to a friend on the Gmail team about a couple of small things that I disliked about Gmail. I

Re: CVS server out of memory on anga.funkfeuer.at

2007-11-10 Thread Martin Reindl
Paulo Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello misc, Just wanted to notify of the following. During checkout of -current code for Xenocara on anga, the following happens: ... CVS server: updating xenocara/font/misc-misc U xenocara/font/misc-misc/10x20.bdf CVS [server aborted]: out of

Re: Printing with apsfilter

2007-11-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 04:30:51AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 07:15:11PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Any strong opinion on LPD vs LPRng vs CUPS issue? I am not a professional system administrator and there is way too much Linux and CUPS around me for my

dhcpd's options.c in a weird shape

2007-11-10 Thread Vincent GROSS
Hi folks, there seem to be a lil' problem with /usr/src/usr/sbin/dhcpd/options.c. the following patch highlights two weirds constructs inside the file, one in the header, the other one in the MMS checking code. --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/dhcpd/options.c Sat Nov 10 04:53:05 2007 +++ ./options.c Sat

Re: dhcpd's options.c in a weird shape

2007-11-10 Thread Han Boetes
Vincent GROSS wrote: there seem to be a lil' problem with /usr/src/usr/sbin/dhcpd/options.c. the following patch highlights two weirds constructs inside the file, one in the header, the other one in the MMS checking code. --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/dhcpd/options.c Sat Nov 10 04:53:05 2007 +++

Re: dhcpd's options.c in a weird shape

2007-11-10 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 03:31:03PM +0100, Vincent GROSS wrote: Hi folks, there seem to be a lil' problem with /usr/src/usr/sbin/dhcpd/options.c. the following patch highlights two weirds constructs inside the file, one in the header, the other one in the MMS checking code. ---

Re: dhcpd's options.c in a weird shape

2007-11-10 Thread Vincent GROSS
okay, pb solved, i just reused a stable tree to populate a current tree thanks again On Nov 10, 2007 4:14 PM, Kenneth R Westerback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 03:31:03PM +0100, Vincent GROSS wrote: Hi folks, there seem to be a lil' problem with

How can I burn DVD+R Dual Layer media?

2007-11-10 Thread Andrés
I've read that the process is not the same as burning DVD+R, but, at the same time, I couldn't get much information :S Has anyone tried burning DVD+R Dual Layer media?, what are the steps? Greetings.

partition and copy in one line?

2007-11-10 Thread Lars Noodén
I had a hard drive die and used the chance to move to 4.2. Since the 'new' machine is of the same vintage as the one it replaced, I expect it to start grinding to a halt soon, too. Is there a way to copy one entire hard drive, partition table and all, to another -- in one line? I tried

Re: Security Comparisons

2007-11-10 Thread knitti
On 11/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of philosophy. Linux is about making all kinds of toys work in a hot-plug way and allow people to boast about their uptime. OpenBSD is about security. I would add usability (conciseness, least surprise and coherency) and thus

Re: Printing with apsfilter

2007-11-10 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 04:30:51AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 07:15:11PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Any strong opinion on LPD vs LPRng vs CUPS issue? I am not a professional system administrator and there is way too much Linux

Re: Printing with apsfilter

2007-11-10 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Predrag, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As LPD is good enough itself to set the plain text to printer I want to see what is the easiest way to tell printer how to understand ps files If that could be done with build in filter in LPD or the one that come with base installation (I have to read more

Re: Printing with apsfilter

2007-11-10 Thread kim
Jacob Meuser wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:20:14PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I would like to get some advise on printing with apsfilter on 4.2. I have an Epson CX5400 multifunction printer that I normally use with the Gutenprint drivers and CUPS on other Unix systems. I

ifconfig regress in combination with pppoe(4)

2007-11-10 Thread Mitja Muženič
Hi all! I just found the hard way that my old hostname.pppoe0 file which used to work under 4.1 causes a spectacular failure on 4.2. # sh /etc/netstart pppoe0 ifconfig: SIOCSIFGENERIC(SPPPIOSDEFS): Device busy The reason turned out to be a whitespace character after the \ sign in

Re: Powered by obsd stickers and other stuff

2007-11-10 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
what about painted puffy? it's been there for a while... http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Powered+by+OpenBSD?content=61218 2007/11/10, Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:18:42 +0100, Iqigo Tejedor Arrondo wrote: Hello all Some art, at slw spanish foul

Re: ifconfig regress in combination with pppoe(4)

2007-11-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:37:47PM +0100, Mitja Mu?eni? wrote: # sh /etc/netstart pppoe0 ifconfig: SIOCSIFGENERIC(SPPPIOSDEFS): Device busy The reason turned out to be a whitespace character after the \ sign in hostname.pppoe0. Simplest way to recreate is to take the example from man and

MacBook remote control

2007-11-10 Thread Richard Storm
Hello! I have macbook: hw.model=Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz hw.vendor=Apple Inc. hw.product=MacBook2,1 hw.version=1.0 On http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook IR receiver section there is tool available at http://fnop.net/~rpaulo/priv/freebsd/aird.tgz. Here is patch that makes it

paramtere not supported anymore? kern.machdep getting error .... (kde/gnome...)

2007-11-10 Thread badeguruji
Hello, while trying to configure kde for openbsd. i referred to this document: http://www.openbsdsupport.org/obsd_desktop.html Check if kern.machdep is set to 1 in your /etc/sysctl.conf file. If not, change it. You can use sysctl -w kern.machdep=1 to activate it without rebooting. but

Re: paramtere not supported anymore? kern.machdep getting error .... (kde/gnome...)

2007-11-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
badeguruji [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: while trying to configure kde for openbsd. i referred to this document: http://www.openbsdsupport.org/obsd_desktop.html That document is seriously out of date, see the warning (red, even) at the main page at that site,

glxsb crypto crash

2007-11-10 Thread Mitja Muženič
Not my day, obviously On a net5501 machine that I just upgraded to 4.2 I experienced a sudden reboot and found this in dmesg: uvm_fault(0xd078d120, 0x0, 0, 1) - e fatal page fault (6) in supervisor mode trap type 6 code 0 eip d03d4fab cs 8 eflags 10296 cr2 4 cpl 90 panic: trap type 6,

plane simple vanilla X and 3 errors:

2007-11-10 Thread badeguruji
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) i am worried about last 2. any advice is appreciated. thank you. BG ~~Kalyan-mastu~~

PPD vs printer driver question

2007-11-10 Thread Predrag Punosevac
For the past couple hours after the Jacob's answer about apsfilter I was reading about Unix printing. I am getting more confused about the real meaning of PPD files and printer drivers. According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_Printer_Description PPD files are post script

Re: PPD vs printer driver question

2007-11-10 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Predrag Punosevac wrote: For the past couple hours after the Jacob's answer about apsfilter I was reading about Unix printing. I am getting more confused about the real meaning of PPD files and printer drivers. According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_Printer_Description

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread ropers
Would people say that this edit is a decent description of these issues? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sparse_filediff=170645177oldid=168346326

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread ropers
On 10/11/2007, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your example just shows copying big files takes long. The point being, if the file was not sparse, it would take at least the same time. Blaming sparseness for the long cp time is not fair. -Otto But of course it would be

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi, Before we go nuts on this issue, or look for the wrong things or create miss understanding. Just allow me a little bit more time to try to come with a viseable example showing the problem, or the issue here. Obviously as Otto pointed out to me, looks like I can't explain it to well. I

Re: plane simple vanilla X and 3 errors:

2007-11-10 Thread Unix Fan
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file You're running X configless, meaning you didn't create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.. which is OK in the latest X (If you have modern computers). (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0) OpenBSD doesn't support DRM/DRI, So 3D/OpenGL

Re: Printing with apsfilter

2007-11-10 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 13:32:21 Nov 10, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: There used to be an article on the web about dealing with LPD printcap files and setting up filters. I used it to set up one of my HP printers. The process is really quite simple if you know what your printer's magic incantations are. However,

Re: partition and copy in one line?

2007-11-10 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 18:38:38 Nov 10, Lars Nood??n wrote: I had a hard drive die and used the chance to move to 4.2. Since the 'new' machine is of the same vintage as the one it replaced, I expect it to start grinding to a halt soon, too. Is there a way to copy one entire hard drive, partition table and all,

Re: partition and copy in one line?

2007-11-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 06:38:38PM +0200, Lars Nood??n wrote: I had a hard drive die and used the chance to move to 4.2. Since the 'new' machine is of the same vintage as the one it replaced, I expect it to start grinding to a halt soon, too. Is there a way to copy one entire hard drive,

Re: Security Comparisons

2007-11-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 05:52:03PM +0100, knitti wrote: On 11/10/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of philosophy. Linux is about making all kinds of toys work in a hot-plug way and allow people to boast about their uptime. OpenBSD is about security. I would add usability

Re: Printing with apsfilter

2007-11-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:04:57PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 04:30:51AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 07:15:11PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: The difference between lpd and LPRng is one of access control. Having

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi, I will try to make this very simple and show the issue by example only when possible. I use two old servers on the Internet for the tests. The source use real example sparse file, but that have only ~1GB of usable data in it. The size show by 'ls -al' as an example gives~17GB. That's

Re: ifconfig regress in combination with pppoe(4)

2007-11-10 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Mitja Muenih wrote: Hi all! I just found the hard way that my old hostname.pppoe0 file which used to work under 4.1 causes a spectacular failure on 4.2. # sh /etc/netstart pppoe0 ifconfig: SIOCSIFGENERIC(SPPPIOSDEFS): Device busy The reason turned out to be a whitespace character after the \

Re: Printing with apsfilter

2007-11-10 Thread William Boshuck
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 08:46:19PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: ... And this is the big difference between lpd and LPRng. With LPRng you can specify who can use what of those printers even if all the originators are on the same box. I think that lpd just lets you specify what boxes can

Re: identifying sparse files and get ride of them trick available?

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel Ouellet
ropers wrote: Would people say that this edit is a decent description of these issues? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sparse_filediff=170645177oldid=168346326 I can't really comment well for proper writing for sure. (; But one thing that is not right as Otto pointed out to me and

Re: ifconfig regress in combination with pppoe(4)

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel Melameth
On 11/10/07, Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitja Muenih wrote: I just found the hard way that my old hostname.pppoe0 file which used to work under 4.1 causes a spectacular failure on 4.2. # sh /etc/netstart pppoe0 ifconfig: SIOCSIFGENERIC(SPPPIOSDEFS): Device busy The

Problems with pf and rdr

2007-11-10 Thread Urban Hillebrand
Hi everyone, I have a problem with pf redirection. I used this simple setup to reproduce this issue: An external host (HostA) connects to port 55111 on my external interface ($IF_EXT) on my openbsd box. This connection is forwarded to the ssh-port of an internal Server (ServerA) using my

Re: ifconfig regress in combination with pppoe(4)

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel Melameth
On 11/10/07, Daniel Melameth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/10/07, Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitja Muenih wrote: I just found the hard way that my old hostname.pppoe0 file which used to work under 4.1 causes a spectacular failure on 4.2. # sh /etc/netstart pppoe0