On Dec 28, 2007 4:07 AM, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Keeping a system up to date involves manual work,
either a little easy work for manual upgrades now and then,
or lots of hard and scary work for building and maintaining
an automatic system. You choose according to your
hello list,
i just read that the asus SLI mainboards have a silicon image sata
chipset. does that mean we can use this asus mainboards with the mfi
driver in openbsd? any experiences?
regards,
matthias
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:20:58AM +0100, Matthias Tarasiewicz wrote:
hello list,
i just read that the asus SLI mainboards have a silicon image sata chipset.
does that mean we can use this asus mainboards with the mfi driver in
openbsd? any experiences?
regards,
matthias
This is likely
* Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-28 03:24]:
I am wondering, in a dual firewall situation, preemption enabled, carp
working just fine (i think), is it normal that the backup firewall (when in
backup state) has no connectivity on any of the carped interfaces?
that depends wether you
ah, sorry, my bad - the Areca/Tekram TR-822 is said to have the same
chipset as the ASUS-A8n-SLI-Deluxe.
so the TR-822 seems to be sili not mfi...
On 28.12.2007, at 11:48, Jonathan Gray wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:20:58AM +0100, Matthias Tarasiewicz wrote:
hello list,
i just read that
I advise you to read The Art of Unix Programming by Eric Steven Raymond
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch14s04.html#cc_language
In this book you can find more about the Unix philosophy, and arguments on why
C++ is wrong.
- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
Van: Brian Hansen
apropos on 'glxpcib' gives
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=glxpcibsektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386apropos=1format=html
which contains a link to 'glxpcib (4/i386)' which is invalid
On 2007-12-28 07:33, Brian Hansen wrote:
[snip]
Is he right?
Yes and no. First of all you should realise that Linus and most other
other kernel hackers are biased. When it comes down to it C++ is not a
better or worse language to write a system in than C, it is just a
question about how you
Wow one comprehensive list of the suckage that is C++. Thanks Miod now
I dont need to type examples anymore.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 07:19:11AM +, Miod Vallat wrote:
Is he right?
If you just search the archive, even not to long ago, 'few days' you
will see pretty much the same
* Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-28 03:24]:
I am wondering, in a dual firewall situation, preemption enabled, carp
working just fine (i think), is it normal that the backup firewall (when
in
backup state) has no connectivity on any of the carped interfaces?
that depends wether you
Still no go. However, it doesn't appear to be a OpenBSD specific issue.
FreeBSD and Debian CD installers won't boot from the external CD drive
either. Currently, I can boot the machine with a Solaris install CD or from
Solaris that had been installed on the HDD prior to me receiving the
computer.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 12:57:18PM +0100, Markus Bergkvist wrote:
apropos on 'glxpcib' gives
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=glxpcibsektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386apropos=1format=html
which contains a link to 'glxpcib (4/i386)' which is invalid
it's not invalid. man -S
Sorry for all the posts. I figured it out. I dd'ed floppy42.fs to one of the
unused drives and booted that way.
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I am still working on the same problem, I was able to get 2 ISPs load
balanced and even got the bandwidth aggregated. Now i am trying to
balance 3 ISPs and even with the multipath routing enabled and
cofigureed i am not able to even browse anything. Here is my pf.conf
lan_net = 10.15.0.0/16
On Dec 28, 2007 7:51 AM, Erik Wikstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-12-28 07:33, Brian Hansen wrote:
[snip]
Is he right?
Yes and no. First of all you should realise that Linus and most other
other kernel hackers are biased. When it comes down to it C++ is not a
better or worse
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:16:08AM -0500, Gary Baluha wrote:
I think that's one of the main problems with programmers today. All the
schools I know that teach programming, start by teaching Java to the
students.
I'm learning Java at school. I told my teachers that I think it is a
great pity
This is a neat idea, but personally I think it'll be hard to make the device 0
maintenance, problems can always occur...
If you're set on using OpenBSD in this project, remove everything from the base
system that isn't needed... and try running the unit non-stop for 48/hours...
just to be
On Dec 28, 2007 11:21 AM, Pieter Verberne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:16:08AM -0500, Gary Baluha wrote:
I think that's one of the main problems with programmers today. All the
schools I know that teach programming, start by teaching Java to the
students.
I'm
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:16:08AM -0500, Gary Baluha wrote:
I'm also not sold on the concept of object oriented programming in general.
Along the lines of nothing is impossible with enough layers of
indirection, I think too much abstraction also removes the programmer from
what he/she is
* Unix Fan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-28 17:44]:
remove everything from the base system that isn't needed...
yeah THAT is certainly going to help... deleting binaries saves the
world!
--
Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP -
On Dec 28, 2007 7:13 AM, Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
main firewall Carp0:
inet 192.168.3.65 255.255.255.224 192.168.3.95 vhid 1 carpdev fxp0 pass
tester1
inet alias 192.168.3.66 255.255.255.224
inet alias 192.168.3.67 255.255.255.224
Not to solution your problem, but the correct netmask
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 07:37:54AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
Wow one comprehensive list of the suckage that is C++. Thanks Miod now
I dont need to type examples anymore.
I will probably regret this, but all of these issues are known, and only
show that C++ is not a simple language.
Real
What in the world???
Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected
embedded device. Need more examples?
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 08:34:24AM -0800, Unix Fan wrote:
This is a neat idea, but personally I think it'll be hard to make the device
0 maintenance, problems can
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:16:08AM -0500, Gary Baluha wrote:
I'm also not sold on the concept of object oriented programming in general.
Along the lines of nothing is impossible with enough layers of
indirection, I think too much abstraction also removes the programmer from
what he/she is
I disagree with this sentiment. The quality of programmers these days
is abysmal. I think that is due to part of being taught wrong in the
first place and then being unable to unlearn bad habits.
By teaching kids in a forgiving language they will never get a feel for
what they are supposed to
On Dec 28, 2007 7:16 AM, Gary Baluha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 28, 2007 7:51 AM, Erik Wikstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-12-28 07:33, Brian Hansen wrote:
[snip]
Is he right?
Yes and no. First of all you should realise that Linus and most other
other kernel hackers
Brian Hansen wrote:
Hi.
This is partly not OpenBSD related, and yet again someone pointed out that
perhaps a lot of bug could be avoided using C++. I am writting my big paper
on C and C++ and would like some comments from people who are experts.
Off-list is okay, but maybe others are
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 08:34:24AM -0800, Unix Fan wrote:
(Consider a modem, or a net card... so remote maintenance is
possible..)
The problem with a net card is that then the end-user would have to set
up a dhcp server or some how have the card set up correctly. With a
modem, its pretty
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Holland wrote:
What have I forgotten? Is there anything else I can do to avoid
slapping my forehead and saying, D'oh! Forgot to ... before I
ship it out fully detached? The good news is I'm pretty sure
there is at least one OpenBSD developer near-by,
On Dec 28, 2007 12:36 PM, Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rules for types and operators are fairly complex, granted, but there is
some actual logic. This is well documented in a few books. The main issue
with C++ there is that it it a big language. You want to understand those
rules ? You
I have read some (time does not allow me to read it all) of the threads
about C vs.C++ and would like to know if anyone here has worked through the
courses from either of the following people and if so, what did you think?
I read in the thread with Linus's thoughts of C++ but am curious that if he
On Dec 27, 2007 10:41 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd wire in a hardware-type heartbeat detector that will power-cycle the
computer if it stops working. I'd have a door over the money slot
powered by the computer so that it only accepts money when its working.
You could
On 12/27/07, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, but no C++ bashing thread can be complete until someone mentions the
excellent FQA site: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/
this one alone was priceless: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/io.html#fqa-15.1
and i've even written more c++ code than c code.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:13:18AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected
embedded device. Need more examples?
Well, actually, my car doesn't include a digital computer. It has an
ignition module that is analog but no sensors. Nice
Use something like flashboot (www.mindrot.org/projects/flashboot)
perfect for this kind of application, take a look at the package
managment stuff
J
On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Tobias Weingartner wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Holland
wrote:
What have I forgotten? Is
step 1. get a any old ipod on ebay
step 2. put a single mp3 tune on it
step 3. place it in a big box, with the play button located right
under a coin sized slot
openbsd is great, but it's not the hammer for all nails...
/Pete
On 28 Dec 2007, at 3:34 AM, Nick Holland wrote:
I've got a
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 09:13:33PM -0800, Allie D. wrote:
I have had to wipe my spamdb twice in the last month because spammers
get past my blacklists (I run the ones that come in spamd.conf) and my
greylisting and just hammer a few of my customers. The spam comes from
multiple IP's so it's a
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Marco Peereboom wrote:
What in the world???
Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected
embedded device. Need more examples?
Indeed! How many Soekris routers are there in 'production', operating with
a config just as suggested?
Lee
Hi,
I am having trouble building xenocara after updating my sources via
cvsup.
I have built non-X world and their release sets but when I come to
building X world:
export XSRCDIR=/usr/xenocara
export XOBJDIR=/usr/xobj
if [ -d $XOBJDIR ]; then
rm -rf $XOBJDIR
Currently running OpenBSD i386 3.8 with one 20GB IDE drive at wd0a and
one 250gb IDE drive all partitioned for bsd.
Trying to install OpenBSD i386 4.2 from install42.iso by trading the
250gb drive for a cd-rom drive.
I keep getting this error message and I believe it has to do with the
missing
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 17:16 -0600, Alan Hamlett wrote:
Currently running OpenBSD i386 3.8 with one 20GB IDE drive at wd0a and
one 250gb IDE drive all partitioned for bsd.
Trying to install OpenBSD i386 4.2 from install42.iso by trading the
250gb drive for a cd-rom drive.
I keep getting
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 07:04:10AM -0800, new_guy wrote:
Sorry for all the posts. I figured it out. I dd'ed floppy42.fs to one of the
unused drives and booted that way.
It's been a while, but iirc you can just do boot cd instead of all the
other happy horseshit.
--
Darrin Chandler
On 12/28/07, Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- python or perl, which work just fine... perl has about the same set of
defects as C++ (except for speed and reflection). python is probably about
the same, I don't use it enough to comment.
or Ruby (of Smalltalk heritage), which I suppose you
Marco Peereboom wrote:
What in the world???
Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected
embedded device. Need more examples?
No, I walk.. batteries not included..
Seriously, I was simply giving my opinion... unfortunately I walked under a
bridge and got
Hello guys,
I set up OpenBSD as DSL router using the kernel pppoe.
Because my DSL connection is faster then 10 MBit I'm using the kernel
pppoe to use the bandwith.
I've noticed that pf fails to do the routing/nat in such scenarios:
1. OpenBSD Router boots
- It takes some seconds until pppoe0
I don't give care.
Get lost, little boy.
I didn't made this bug report. I just told you weeks ago that people will
hit thit bug. And you may please explain me the sense of submitting
bug-reports if you've such a attitude?
Well as I told you: People will hit thit bug.
But please forward at
Ted Unangst wrote:
On 12/27/07, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, but no C++ bashing thread can be complete until someone
mentions the
excellent FQA site: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/
this one alone was priceless:
http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/io.html#fqa-15.1
and i've even written
Years ago we told Sebastian Rother that we think he's a pest, and
we'll ignore everything he says.
Go away, Sebastian. The minute you report a bug, everyone else
will suffer for it.
I don't give care.
Get lost, little boy.
I didn't made this bug report. I just told you weeks ago that
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello guys,
I set up OpenBSD as DSL router using the kernel pppoe.
Because my DSL connection is faster then 10 MBit I'm using the kernel
pppoe to use the bandwith.
I've noticed that pf fails to do the routing/nat in such scenarios:
1. OpenBSD Router boots
- It
Well with static IPs I've no problem either.
It's just after the forced disconnect of the ISP and after pppoe0 got a
new IP. Then NAT and routing fails. I solve this via a rule reload (after
pppoe0 got a new IP) but that looks like some stonge-age method
(seriously.. ).
I just wonder if somebody
Well thank you for your valuable input captain obvious.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 05:13:41PM -0800, Unix Fan wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
What in the world???
Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected
embedded device. Need more examples?
No, I walk..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] P=P0P?P8QP0:
Well with static IPs I've no problem either.
It's just after the forced disconnect of the ISP and after pppoe0 got a
new IP. Then NAT and routing fails. I solve this via a rule reload (after
pppoe0 got a new IP) but that looks like some stonge-age method
Years ago we told Sebastian Rother that we think he's a pest, and
we'll ignore everything he says.
Wonderfull. It just wasn't me who reported this bug (please read the
original Bug report). So please stop ignoring it. :]
Sure I reported it weeks ago but that doesn't matter right now, right?
Dear friends,
Please excuse the silly subject line. I am unfortunately not qualified
enough to come up with a better one.
First my assumptions, then my questions. Request inputs on both.
Assumptions
-
a) Most of the spam
Darrin Chandler wrote:
It's been a while, but iirc you can just do boot cd instead of all the
other happy horseshit.
There was no internal IDE CD drive. So boot cd would not work... failed to
find boot device So that extra horse shit (and I agree 100% that it is
horse shit) was,
I guess you use ($ext_if) - with brackets - instead of the IP address
manually entered (which you obviously don't know). This way PF monitors
the interface for changes of it's IP address and adjusts rules
accordingly. You can verify if it does by doing a 'pfctl -s rules' after
a reconnection,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] P=P0P?P8QP0:
I guess you use ($ext_if) - with brackets - instead of the IP address
manually entered (which you obviously don't know). This way PF monitors
the interface for changes of it's IP address and adjusts rules
accordingly. You can verify if it does by doing a 'pfctl -s
*cut*
I'm unsure of this, too, and the man pages of hostname.if and pppoe seem
unclear about this. But I guess you're right - commands will be executed
only on system boot or network restart.
Yes that's kinda true. I just wonder that nobody asked about a solution
before. Does everybody uses a
Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
a) Most of the spam originates in USA. And high bandwidth links and busy
mail servers are common targets.
You haven't looked at China and Korea in a long time looks like. USA is
not a clean place, but not the major source of it either. Definitely not
in my logs
Also, in case it wasn't obvious either.
Make sure to add your spamd-setup to your cron job to update them.
And obviously and additional domains will need MX records in DNS
obviously too.
Not sure if one day the greyscanner will be part of the default install
anytime soon? May be they want
Just for the records and for fun as well.
Here is how many spammer were trap by greyscanner ONLY in the last ~9
hours only. Also one thousand are trap per hours.
# head -n1 maillog
Dec 28 15:00:02 smtp1 newsyslog[2273]: logfile turned over
# tail -n1 maillog
Dec 28 23:55:25 smtp1 .
#
OK,
I am having to much fun I guess, but that will be my last one.
When I say spammer trap, I really mean spammer trap by greyscanner, not
only the number of emails block.
As examples I see many like this in the logs:
Dec 27 16:15:26 smtp1 greytrapper[10139]: Trapped 84.165.240.170: Host
Hi, all.
There is a error msg while i access the URL:
http://www.openbsd.org/art/blow_col_only.jpg
The url can be found in:
http://www.openbsd.org/art2.html
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Best Regards.
Michael Bibby(Huangbin Zhang)
- RedHat Enterprise Linux 5 Client
- OpenBSD 4.2 -release
Hi,
Just had some experience installing 4.2 on ASUS m2a-vm... Wasn't pleasant.
3Gbs drive shows max of 0.2MBs tranfer rate (according to iostat). My
old drive shows appx 30MB on IDE bus. Tested using dd if=/dev/zero
of=file. Any disk access takes forever.
Selecting SATA interface as AHCI
Gary Baluha wrote:
On Dec 27, 2007 10:41 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd wire in a hardware-type heartbeat detector that will power-cycle the
computer if it stops working. I'd have a door over the money slot
powered by the computer so that it only accepts money when its
Dear All,
A friend of mine is moving out of town and has a couple Tatung
COMPstations U10 in mint condition
(they come with the original monitors , keyboards, and the mouses ) that
can be mine for $10 a piece.
He claims that he is running Debian sparc 64 (with X ) but I believe
they are
Tony Abernethy wrote:
Ted Unangst wrote:
On 12/27/07, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, but no C++ bashing thread can be complete until someone
mentions the
excellent FQA site: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/
this one alone was priceless:
I haven't read the FAQ for a while and realize a lot has been changed.
Is there any way I could get a diff on the FAQ for the last 1 year and
read only the parts that has been changed?
Thanks for any help.
Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
Dear friends,
Please excuse the silly subject line. I am unfortunately not qualified
enough to come up with a better one.
First my assumptions, then my questions. Request inputs on both.
Assumptions
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Chris wrote:
I haven't read the FAQ for a while and realize a lot has been changed.
Is there any way I could get a diff on the FAQ for the last 1 year and
read only the parts that has been changed?
Yep use the CVS.
--
Antti Harri
Chris wrote:
I haven't read the FAQ for a while and realize a lot has been changed.
Is there any way I could get a diff on the FAQ for the last 1 year and
read only the parts that has been changed?
Thanks for any help.
cvs web:
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/www/faq/
will let you
A friend of mine is moving out of town and has a couple Tatung
COMPstations U10 in mint condition
(they come with the original monitors , keyboards, and the mouses ) that
can be mine for $10 a piece.
He claims that he is running Debian sparc 64 (with X ) but I believe
they are actually
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 05:16:11AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Either no developer uses aDSL at home (with a ISP forcing him to reconnect
every 24 hours) or nobody uses OpenBSD as router or nobody uses the
connection permanently. :-/
I use the following hostname.pppoe:
inet 0.0.0.0
Good morning,
Can PF be written to filter client connections based on the total amount of
bandwidth a remote client uploads/downloads over a given time frame? As
far as I know PF does _NOT_ have this ability.
Pf can flush the states of a client ip that has connected too many times in
a given
Calomel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can PF be written to filter client connections based on the total amount of
bandwidth a remote client uploads/downloads over a given time frame? As
far as I know PF does _NOT_ have this ability.
Well, you already have the possibility of using variables such
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