Just to add some more information:
This is the hard drive I am using.
http://westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=336
This is the case I am using it in.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817332016
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007
On 12/31/07 3:51 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 01:00:24AM +0100, chefren wrote:
On 12/29/07 5:27 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Summary:
I still suggest a heartbeat monitor and a modem.
A heartbeat monitor makes the system seriously more complicated and thus
less
On 2007/12/31 15:07, chefren wrote:
And look at the workings of your heartbeat monitor: I bet it needs a loop in
the software that pings it. With software failures: Big chance that loop
still works and thus the heartbeat monitor isn't triggered while the system
as a whole can be considered
On December 30, 2007 08:03:09 pm Stuart Henderson wrote:
On December 29, 2007 11:23:19 am Daniel wrote:
Hi (again, sorry, now with Subject)!
Anyone experiencing or experienced segfaults with openldap using
the bdb backed? I'm using -current ports tree, and built the
On 15:37:46 Dec 31, Stuart Henderson wrote:
Even so, it still allows recovery from some serious problems without
touching the machine. There are quite a few situations where this could
be very useful, though it might not be worth the extra expense and
complexity of adding an external device,
Quoting Vijay Sankar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On December 30, 2007 08:03:09 pm Stuart Henderson wrote:
On December 29, 2007 11:23:19 am Daniel wrote:
Hi (again, sorry, now with Subject)!
Anyone experiencing or experienced segfaults with openldap using
the bdb backed? I'm using
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:37:46PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2007/12/31 15:07, chefren wrote:
And look at the workings of your heartbeat monitor: I bet it needs a loop in
the software that pings it. With software failures: Big chance that loop
still works and thus the heartbeat
hi
I see a lot of programs that are available to clean up the disks for
Windows OS. Not wipe a disk but clean up deleted files so they cannot be
recovered.
Is there any program for OpenBSD that will clean up the disks so that
deleted files cannot be recovered.
(not looking to delete a file
Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe it was this that saved the Mars
lander from total disaster a few years ago. I heard it was due to the
brilliant idea of some Indian professor. I don't remember much about it
now.
It's somewhat more difficult to access the
Jon wrote:
(not looking to delete a file securly - but to wipe the disk clean of
deleted file with out affecting the OS)
What problem are you trying to solve?
Hi!
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 10:25:25AM -0800, Jon wrote:
I see a lot of programs that are available to clean up the disks for
Windows OS. Not wipe a disk but clean up deleted files so they cannot be
recovered.
Is there any program for OpenBSD that will clean up the disks so that
deleted files
Grind them up. There is nothing else you can do to permanently wipe
disks. Residual magnetism is always there provided good enough
equipment. If your data is that sensitive there is nothing else but the
grinder.
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 10:25:25AM -0800, Jon wrote:
hi
I see a lot of
But as a stopgap, look into rm -P (on OpenBSD). Linux has shred too.
On Dec 31, 2007 1:25 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grind them up. There is nothing else you can do to permanently wipe
disks. Residual magnetism is always there provided good enough
equipment. If your data
These messages somehow did not make it to misc@ so I am resending them.
My reply to RMS did make it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I basically asked RMS why he endorses Solaris which is not even remotely
free.
I encourage people to try to understand the FSF reasoning for this
endorsement. I can't come up
Jon-113 wrote:
Is there any program for OpenBSD that will clean up the disks so that
deleted files cannot be recovered.
/dev/zero or /dev/urandom either will work fine (the first being quicker
than the last)
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On Dec 31, 2007 10:25 AM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grind them up. There is nothing else you can do to permanently wipe
disks. Residual magnetism is always there provided good enough
equipment. If your data is that sensitive there is nothing else but the
grinder.
Someone
Marco Peereboom wrote:
Might it have something to do with money?
http://www.fsf.org/donate/patron/index_html
Thanks, now I know how Barracuda got away with barely paying lip service
to the GPL.
Marco,
I can definitely see another angle:
RMS spoke about OpenSolaris without getting his facts straight. When his
bullshit was exposed he backtracked and had the author of the article
post this correction:
[RMS added this comment later:] Since that interview I've learned that
not all of
xSAPPYx wrote:
Someone linked me this article a couple calling into question the
ability to actually read overwritten data:
http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-guttman.html
I'de love to read something from the other side, showing real examples
of getting usable data off of a
Marco Peereboom wrote:
Grind them up. There is nothing else you can do to permanently wipe
disks. Residual magnetism is always there provided good enough
equipment. If your data is that sensitive there is nothing else but the
grinder.
Be sure that you do this yourself or personally
rm -P would be what you're looking for..
But is it even required? It's not exactly an easy task to undelete a file
anyway... the process alone is an effecitve deterrent.
-Nix Fan.
Some geeks have had hard drive roast featuring thermite placed on top of hard
drives to melt them.
That sounds like a fun way to securely delete data given enough thermite.
--- Marina Brown
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Thanks. Since you didn't answer soon, and since I did get other info
about non-free software needed for OpenSolaris, I already asked for a
correction in the interview. I made it general so that I won't have
to go into these specifics. But I would like to know more about the
need for Devpro:
Thanks. Since you didn't answer soon, and since I did get other info
about non-free software needed for OpenSolaris, I already asked for a
correction in the interview. I made it general so that I won't have
to go into these specifics. But I would like to know more about the
need for
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 04:32:08PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some geeks have had hard drive roast featuring thermite placed on top of hard
drives to melt them.
That sounds like a fun way to securely delete data given enough thermite.
nah, use one of these
bullshit.
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:56:54PM -0800, new_guy wrote:
xSAPPYx wrote:
Someone linked me this article a couple calling into question the
ability to actually read overwritten data:
http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-guttman.html
I'de love to read something
To expand on bullshit a little...
The longer you leave a 0 or 1 in a given place on a platter the more of
an impression it makes there. Writing over it with with random bits,
even several times, will not totally erase the deep magnetic impression
of the former bit. Forensics are more than good
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 05:30:47PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
Thanks. Since you didn't answer soon, and since I did get other info
about non-free software needed for OpenSolaris, I already asked for a
correction in the interview. I made it general so that I won't have
to go into these
On 12/29/07 11:11 PM, johan beisser wrote:
It's permitted in IEEE 802.3, if not encouraged.
This is not correct. The relatively recent (2005) IEEE 802.3as spec
extends Ethernet frame length only to 2048 bytes, mainly to accommodate
VLAN stacking and various encap methods. It does not define a
On 13:37:28 Dec 31, Steve Shockley wrote:
Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe it was this that saved the Mars
lander from total disaster a few years ago. I heard it was due to the
brilliant idea of some Indian professor. I don't remember much about it
now.
hi
the problem is to clean up the un-used storage locations. When I delete
files / logs/ etc... I don't want any one to recover them. I am not asking
how to securly discard my disks...
The answers are (from the threads)
1. rm -P
2. fill up the disks with 0 and delete them when the disk
Getting an off-the-shelf MP3 player to play one sound file is not too
difficult. Ah, heck, a tape loop would work fine, too.
There are commercial MP3 modules which are designed to do exactly
what you are looking for, one example:
http://www.hobbyengineering.com/H2168.html
By itself, the
On Dec 31, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Jon wrote:
hi
the problem is to clean up the un-used storage locations. When I
delete
files / logs/ etc... I don't want any one to recover them. I am not
asking
how to securly discard my disks...
The answers are (from the threads)
1. rm -P
2. fill
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