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Re: Virtual pseudo-device 'vwire()' anyone?

2009-12-25 Thread Csaba Szép
OpenBSD has some network virtualization (not yet fully ready?) stuff
in the tree called rdomain. I reading the current documentation, but i
dont find any solution to interconnect  two rdomain. I create two
vether interface in different rdomain and switched them, but it doesnt
work.  So that would be nice if this vwire (or similar) device will be
provided and coexist with rdomain.

Ps: FreeBSD has an epair(4) device for its vimage virtualization
solution, something similar for rdomain would be great.

Ps 2: Sorry for my bad english

Thx
Csszep

2009/12/24 Rolf Sommerhalder rolf.sommerhal...@alumni.ethz.ch:
 Recently, developers added the pseudo-device vether(4). Such virtual
 switch ports can be member of bridges. An additional pseudo-device
 'vwire' would come in handy to interconnect two or more switches in a
 virtualized environment, without necessarily bridging to a physical
 switch port as well.
 In addition to providing a simple virtual wire, such a 'vwire'
 pseudo-device offers certain properties, such as delay, loss, jitter,
 MTU size, etc. Over time, 'vwire' could evolve to a digital channel
 simulator or even a link emulator, similar to 'dummynet' for
 example which was/is used by m0n0wall and pfSense (primarily to
 implement traffic shaping/policing though).

 The description
  http://open-mesh.net/wiki/Emulation
 comes very close to what I am trying to setup on my OpenBSD laptop as
 a physical OpenBSD host, in order to emulate a network with several
 virtual OpenBSD machines as guests using qemu (e.g. a bunch of P, PE
 and CE routers of a MPLS network that uses lossy wireless links).

 Are you aware of anyone who may already work on an equivalent of
 'wire_filter' and/or 'dummynet' in OpenBSD which connect bridges over
 virtual wires?  Or do you have recommendations which existing
 pseudo-device(s) I should study first to get me started in the right
 direction with 'vwire'?

 Thank you,
 Rolf



Re: Virtual pseudo-device 'vwire()' anyone?

2009-12-25 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Csaba Szip css...@gmail.com wrote:
 OpenBSD has some network virtualization (not yet fully ready?) stuff
 in the tree called rdomain. I reading the current documentation, but i
 dont find any solution to interconnect  two rdomain. I create two
 vether interface in different rdomain and switched them, but it doesnt
 work.  So that would be nice if this vwire (or similar) device will be
 provided and coexist with rdomain.

Hello Csszep, what you need to glue rdomains together is _routing_
(combined eventually with some firewalling by pf) which operates at
network layer-3 level, based on IP addresses etc. in IP packet
headers.

The purpose of vwire  however is to establish a connection between two
bridges which may have ether(4), other pseudo-device such as tunX, and
real physical interfaces as members. Thus vwire glues together two
bridges which become like a large virtual switch with the member
interfaces being switch ports. Note that the bridge and the
interconnecting vwire operate at link layer-2 exclusively, e.g. we
consider _switching_ which looks only at MAC addresses of Ethernet
frames.

Thus, vwire will not even (need to) be aware of the protocols used by
the payload which these switched Ethernet frames encapsulate. vwire
will essentially just be bi-directional pipes which transport bits
between two bridges. In order to make things interesting, these pipes
might introduce some distortion into those bit streams, like loosing
occasionally some bits, delay them, etc.

vwire will be a link layer-2 device, much like a UTP cables with some
bumps in it. It will not know anything about IP nor routing network
layer-3.

Regards,
Rolf



Re: Virtual pseudo-device 'vwire()' anyone?

2009-12-25 Thread Csaba Szép
Ok i understand, but if i know right rdomains are not only separated
in L3 but in L2 too.

See this paper: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/f2k9-vrf/

It is possible to use overlapped IP network and it has independent ARP table.
In pf or route? documenation i cant find (for the present) any section
about routing packet between rdomains. But in my opinion your idea is
useful among other things
interconnect two rdomain in L2 .

Some imaginary example commands (inspired from freebsd epair):

ifconfig vwire create

it creates two sub interface vwire0a and vwire0b (create a virtual
crossover cable)

and after that

ifconfig vwire0a rdomain 1
ifconfig vwire0b rdomain 2

ifconfig vwire0a 1.1.1.1/24 up
ifconfig vwire0b 1.1.1.2/24 up

and ping -V1 1.1.1.2 works

Sorry for the noise

thx
Csszep






2009/12/25 Rolf Sommerhalder rolf.sommerhal...@alumni.ethz.ch:
 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Csaba Szip css...@gmail.com wrote:
 OpenBSD has some network virtualization (not yet fully ready?) stuff
 in the tree called rdomain. I reading the current documentation, but i
 dont find any solution to interconnect  two rdomain. I create two
 vether interface in different rdomain and switched them, but it doesnt
 work.  So that would be nice if this vwire (or similar) device will be
 provided and coexist with rdomain.

 Hello Csszep, what you need to glue rdomains together is _routing_
 (combined eventually with some firewalling by pf) which operates at
 network layer-3 level, based on IP addresses etc. in IP packet
 headers.

 The purpose of vwire  however is to establish a connection between two
 bridges which may have ether(4), other pseudo-device such as tunX, and
 real physical interfaces as members. Thus vwire glues together two
 bridges which become like a large virtual switch with the member
 interfaces being switch ports. Note that the bridge and the
 interconnecting vwire operate at link layer-2 exclusively, e.g. we
 consider _switching_ which looks only at MAC addresses of Ethernet
 frames.

 Thus, vwire will not even (need to) be aware of the protocols used by
 the payload which these switched Ethernet frames encapsulate. vwire
 will essentially just be bi-directional pipes which transport bits
 between two bridges. In order to make things interesting, these pipes
 might introduce some distortion into those bit streams, like loosing
 occasionally some bits, delay them, etc.

 vwire will be a link layer-2 device, much like a UTP cables with some
 bumps in it. It will not know anything about IP nor routing network
 layer-3.

 Regards,
 Rolf



Re: OpenBSD sed vs GNU sed

2009-12-25 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 02:32:24AM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 08:37:06PM -0500, Hugo Villeneuve wrote:
  OpenBSD's sed technicaly supports command concatation with ; on
  the command line but it breaks branch without label. Which correctly

I should have left more quoted text about tutorial from other sed
implementation. 

I had been using gnu sed for a while and encountered this issue
going with OpenBSD.

 
 Read the caveat at the end of the sed man page:
 
  The use of semicolons to separate multiple commands is not permitted
  for the following commands: a, b, c, i, r, t, w, :, and #.

I should read better. Since it's documented, it's not a bug.

Of course that sentence is false. : correctly interpret semicolon
as next command. b and t has partial support (only when the
label is not empty). It is true for the a c i r w #.

Is this one of those few case where I should obey the man page
rather than the code?

 
 Either use newlines instead of semicolons, or give each line of the
 script separately with the -e option.  For example, instead of
 
  sed 's/a/b/ ; t ; s/c/d/'
 
 use
 
  sed -e 's/a/b/' -e 't' -e 's/c/d/'

It's a cute work around. My point is: if a label can't contain
semicolons, why support tlabel; and not t;? I don't understand
the logic of it.


Don't trust this diff but it make my few test works:

Index: compile.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.bin/sed/compile.c,v
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -r1.28 compile.c
--- compile.c   16 Oct 2008 16:34:32 -  1.28
+++ compile.c   25 Dec 2009 17:46:49 -
@@ -283,7 +283,7 @@
case BRANCH:/* b t */
p++;
EATSPACE();
-   if (*p == '\0')
+   if (*p == '\0' || *p == ';' )
cmd-t = NULL;
else
cmd-t = duptoeol(p, branch, p);



Re: OpenBSD sed vs GNU sed

2009-12-25 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:59:29PM -0500, Hugo Villeneuve wrote:
 I had been using gnu sed for a while and encountered this issue
 going with OpenBSD.
...
 It's a cute work around. My point is: if a label can't contain
 semicolons, why support tlabel; and not t;? I don't understand
 the logic of it.

Keep in mind that GNU sed is not the standard version of sed, it
contains many nonstandard features.  The standard version of sed is
specified by POSIX.  The places where OpenBSD sed deviates from the
POSIX standard are documented at

 
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/sed/POSIX?rev=1.2;content-type=text%2Fplain

In particular, that document says that

 Historic versions of sed permitted commands to be separated
 by semi-colons, e.g. 'sed -ne '1p;2p;3q' printed the first
 three lines of a file.  This is not specified by POSIX.
 Note, the ; command separator is not allowed for the commands
 a, c, i, w, r, :, b, t, # and at the end of a w flag in the s
 command.  This implementation follows historic practice and
 implements the ; separator.

Basically, the semicolons are a nonstandard historic feature.  If you
want your sed scripts to be compatible with all Unix systems, then stick
to the POSIX standard and use newlines or -e to separate commands.



Re: splassert: vwakeup: and friends

2009-12-25 Thread Jan Stary
On Dec 24 20:02:51, frantisek holop wrote:
 hmm, on Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:05:57PM +0100, frantisek holop said that
  background:
  i am trying to run an e2fsck on an 120G ext2 partition on that
  usb external disk and it just stops reading from the disk at
  random positions.  for example it gets up to 30% of pass 1,
  then it just stops.  no read errors in dmesg, nohing just
  idling. eventually the disk spins down.  top says it's in
  'biowait'.  (it could also be a bug in e2fsck)
 
 i have upgraded to the latest snapshot, and indeed
 the splassert goes away.
 
 (but e2fsck still does not finish the disk, it stops
 reading at random positions of pass 1 (30%, 11%)

make sure the disk itself is OK
before blaming anything higher up.
(e.g., read the entire disk with dd)

 and sits there doing nothing.)

nothing meaning which process state, really?



Re: splassert: vwakeup: and friends

2009-12-25 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 07:44:45PM +0100, Jan Stary said that
 make sure the disk itself is OK
 before blaming anything higher up.
 (e.g., read the entire disk with dd)

openbsd's fsck goes through with no problems.

eventually i managed to get e2fsck through as well:
i made a script to touch a file every 9 seconds
so the disk doesn't spin down and for some reason
e2fsck finished.  but i am not convinced this is
the actual reason, e2fsck was never idle for 10s
in the first place, it was reading through the disk
after all.  and if there were problems spinning
up the disk, i am sure dmesg or some other layer
of the system would have told me.

i am far beyond the point of pointing fingers
(disk, OS, etc), i just want it to work deterministically,
so my mails to misc don't look like dali paintings.

if it has errors, i should see them being reported.
if not, it should work.   i am somewhere inbetween.

  and sits there doing nothing.)
 
 nothing meaning which process state, really?

sleep/biowait

-f
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Re: splassert: vwakeup: and friends

2009-12-25 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 08:02:51PM +0100, frantisek holop said that
 hmm, on Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:05:57PM +0100, frantisek holop said that
  background:
  i am trying to run an e2fsck on an 120G ext2 partition on that
  usb external disk and it just stops reading from the disk at
  random positions.  for example it gets up to 30% of pass 1,
  then it just stops.  no read errors in dmesg, nohing just
  idling. eventually the disk spins down.  top says it's in
  'biowait'.  (it could also be a bug in e2fsck)
 
 i have upgraded to the latest snapshot, and indeed
 the splassert goes away.
 
 (but e2fsck still does not finish the disk, it stops
 reading at random positions of pass 1 (30%, 11%)
 and sits there doing nothing.)

ok.  no more splassert, but everything remains the same.
i just came back from another hard lock up after trying
to copy files from one external usb disk to another.
at some random point the copying just dies and then
first the processes doing anyhing with disks and then
gradually the whole system locks up. nothing in the logs,
no dmesg, nothing.

i have just copied the same files over without any problem
using my parents' notebook.

so it's either the bios/hw/usb ports or openbsd's scsi/usb
layer.

could someone help me please to create the most verbose
kernel possible (scsi+usb) and combined with some remote
syslog hopefully some of the logs will be readable?

-f
-- 
artificial intelligence: the other guy's opinion.



Re: Azalia and ac3

2009-12-25 Thread Chris Bennett

Jacob Meuser wrote:

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 04:02:58PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote:
  

Jacob Meuser wrote:


On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:28:22AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote:
  

Jacob Meuser wrote:



  

are you saying outputs.line-in_sense doesn't change when you plug
something into the line-in jack?

  

Sorry for the delay.

Yes, I have tried plugging both my mic and speaker in all three
By plugging in my mic into speaker, it also shows as plugged.
So my mic is ok and not the problem.

At this point, I suspect that this motherboard is also defective.
This one was not my first choice, that one was defective.
What a crappy two weeks for parts!


it's possible the makers of the motherboard didn't wire up the jack
presence detection circuitry for all the pins/jacks.  in that case,
though, they're supposed to have the BIOS set the presence detect
override bit for those pins in the codec descriptor.

this issue is common with the front headphone jack on replacement
motherboards.  the front headphone jack isn't on the motherboard
itself, so the board maker has no way of knowing if the jack has
presence detection circuitry.

  

Well, you are right about front jack sense not working.
I didn't have the front jacks (only speaker and mic) connected until now.
However, I have now discovered that only the front panel mic jack works.
There is a spkr, line-in and mic jack built-in to the motherboard.
Only spkr works as far as I can tell.

I tested with aucat recording and mplayer playing back wav
Front panel mic and spkr, ok
built-in, only spkr works



strange.  is there perhaps a switch/jumper on the board or bios option to
choose front or rear audio?

  

I could find no jumpers or bios options for switching front/rear.
There was a bios setting for legacy setting for front panel connections.
I set this correctly (was wrong) but this had no effect on my rear problems.

--
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
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Re: Azalia and ac3

2009-12-25 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 08:26:42PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote:
 Jacob Meuser wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 04:02:58PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote:

 Well, you are right about front jack sense not working.
 I didn't have the front jacks (only speaker and mic) connected until now.
 However, I have now discovered that only the front panel mic jack works.
 There is a spkr, line-in and mic jack built-in to the motherboard.
 Only spkr works as far as I can tell.
 
 I tested with aucat recording and mplayer playing back wav
 Front panel mic and spkr, ok
 built-in, only spkr works
 
 strange.  is there perhaps a switch/jumper on the board or bios option to
 choose front or rear audio?
 
 I could find no jumpers or bios options for switching front/rear.
 There was a bios setting for legacy setting for front panel connections.
 I set this correctly (was wrong) but this had no effect on my rear problems.

sounds like the connector data for the front and built-in connectors
got swapped somewhere and now the codec is giving incorrect info.  can
you build and boot a kernel with 'option AZALIA_DEBUG' and send me the
resulting dmesg?

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



How to remove Operation timed out messages from queue with smtpctl?

2009-12-25 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Hi all,

how can I remove Operation timed out messages from mail queue with
smtpctl(8)? I have default setup for local delivery and I tested if
it's possible to send emails to outside world as with default
sendmail(8) configuration in OpenBSD. Now I have two messages in
queue. I read man pages for smtpd(8), smtpctl(8) and smtpd.conf(5) and
there is nothing about that. Is it safe to remove those files directly
from /var/spool/smtpd/queue ?

-- 
http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html



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Montrial, mon amour

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Triangle

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Safari prihistorique

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France 5

Echappies belles

20h35
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Docteur Biligti

21h40
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Direct 8

Le comte de Monte-Cristo

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Prisumi innocent

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W9

Les Simpson

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Domino Day 2009

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Les nouveaux secrets de la magie

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Catch Attack

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Fear Factor (saison 4)

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NRJ 12

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Virus Undead

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Roumanie : une rivolution dans l'oeil
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Virgin 17

Cyrano de Minilmontant

20h35
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Chante si tu peux ! (Saison 1)

22h20
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Lucky Luke

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Ayo au Festival Sakifo

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