will you believe me if i restate your question and his answer?
question:
if i turn off the cache on the controller and the disk what is keeping rename
from ensuring that the file is never lost
answer:
you can't actually know that the cache is shut off on the disk, so the
question is moot.
even
> looming. I am trying to understand the technical issues, not
You mean you're not just arguing because you have a burning need
to be right on the intertruck due to personal issues? Color me
surprised.
On Jan 25, 2010, at 8:57 PM, nixlists wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marco Peereboom
wrote:
>> I gave you the answer several times but I'll humor you and do it one
>> more time.
>
> No, you didn't, see below.
yes, he did.
you're confusing "i didn't hear what i wanted to hear" with "i
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:11 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>DJB does great work and thinks about his code. Like every great
> programmer, DJB wants his code to be as "correct" as possible within the
> very well known bounding limitations (hardware, compilers, operating
> systems, file system code, and s
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 22:33:20 nixlists wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 04:35:48PM -0500, nixlists wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marco Peereboom
> >>
> wrote:
> >> > You are positively ignorant. No need to regurgitate this all
> >> > over
again. Take your toy mail implementa
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> I gave you the answer several times but I'll humor you and do it one
> more time.
No, you didn't, see below.
This thread started here:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126435421227560&w=2
After I replied to that message (specifically
On 01/25/2010 04:33 PM, nixlists wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Bret S. Lambert
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 04:35:48PM -0500, nixlists wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marco Peereboom
wrote:
You are positively ignorant. No need to regurgitate this all
On Jan 25, 2010, at 6:11 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:32:10 -0800 Ben Calvert
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:20 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:34:08 -0500 nixlists
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> There is no certainty.
>>> There is only belief.
>
On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Brad Tilley wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:32 -0800, "Ben Calvert"
wrote:
>
>> Tracing this discussion back to it's origins earlier this month, I see
>> the
>> problem as arising from a statement made by a Mathematician (DJB) about
>> the
>> infallibility of his sof
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On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:47 PM, frantisek holop wrote:
> hmm, on Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:32:10PM -0800, Ben Calvert said that
>> the unnamed individual (with such great faith in his mail system that he
uses
>> gmail to correspond with us) is actually performing the valuable function
of
>> helping me
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:32:10 -0800 Ben Calvert
wrote:
>
> On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:20 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:34:08 -0500 nixlists
> > wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > There is no certainty.
> > There is only belief.
>
> Tracing this discussion back to it's origins ear
I gave you the answer several times but I'll humor you and do it one
more time.
You can't trust one million lines of code between your application and
the physical hardware to all be perfect and guarantee you anything more
than "best effort". That includes your hyperbole.
Now you draw your concl
Nobody debated his ability to write code.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 07:30:47PM -0500, Brad Tilley wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:32 -0800, "Ben Calvert" wrote:
>
> > Tracing this discussion back to it's origins earlier this month, I see
> > the
> > problem as arising from a statement made by a M
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jason Dixon wrote:
> I'm proud to announce the rebirth of JigglyPuffBSD. Catering to the
> distinguished *BSD user, JigglyPuffBSD aims to meet the demanding
> requirements of today's enterprise architectures. With support for a
> broad range of buzzwords, it exc
hmm, on Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:32:10PM -0800, Ben Calvert said that
> the unnamed individual (with such great faith in his mail system that he uses
> gmail to correspond with us) is actually performing the valuable function of
> helping me compose interview questions to weed out undesirable job ap
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:32 -0800, "Ben Calvert" wrote:
> Tracing this discussion back to it's origins earlier this month, I see
> the
> problem as arising from a statement made by a Mathematician (DJB) about
> the
> infallibility of his software when used with certain filesystems.
>
> It is unde
On 1/26/2010 12:14 AM, Eric wrote:
How about BSHurd?
Now, that's a really aBSHurd idea.
ciao
Luca
Hi,
I'm using the Jan 20 snapshot, although I got similar results using
a snapshot from late October.
I'm trying to use "divert-packet" to grab NAT'd packets, analyze them
in a user-space program, and then put them back into the stack.
Here is my pf.conf (with ext_if and divport defined accordin
2010/1/25 Julian Leyh :
> Am 24.01.10 01:32, schrieb jean-francois:
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> Can someone give a hin on how to make the speaker to beep for example with
>> a command or a C program ?
>>
>> I started to write a little C program thinking there was a beep()
>> functione,
>> but it seems not
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:46:16 +0300
Vadim Zhukov wrote:
> On 22 January 2010 c. 23:12:13 Eric wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:13:08 -0800
> >
> > Bryan Irvine wrote:
> > > Wasn't there a fork just like a few years ago? Except
> > > they left Theo's name in the default email or
> > > something?
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 05:33:20PM -0500, nixlists wrote:
| On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Bret S. Lambert
| wrote:
| > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 04:35:48PM -0500, nixlists wrote:
| >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marco Peereboom
| wrote:
| >> > You are positively ignorant. No need to regurg
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Bret S. Lambert
wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 04:35:48PM -0500, nixlists wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marco Peereboom
wrote:
>> > You are positively ignorant. No need to regurgitate this all over
>> > again. Take your toy mail implementation and
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 04:35:48PM -0500, nixlists wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > You are positively ignorant. No need to regurgitate this all over
> > again. Take your toy mail implementation and enjoy your hair.
>
> You are still refusing to give a direct
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> You are positively ignorant. No need to regurgitate this all over
> again. Take your toy mail implementation and enjoy your hair.
You are still refusing to give a direct answer to a direct question.
How's that not ignorant? I wonder why
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 09:02:47PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote:
> Le lundi 25 janvier 2010 18:55:21, vous avez icrit :
> > 2010/1/25 Markus Hennecke :
> > > jean-francois wrote:
> > >> Can someone give a hin on how to make the speaker to beep for example
> > >> with a command or a C program ?
> > >
wc -l the code and tell me again how that makes you feel.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 08:48:59PM +, nixlists wrote:
> Just to remind:
>
> rename() causes the link named from to be renamed as to. If to exists,
> it is first removed. Both from and to must be of the same type (that is,
>
You are positively ignorant. No need to regurgitate this all over
again. Take your toy mail implementation and enjoy your hair.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 08:47:14PM +, nixlists wrote:
> What are you running? Exchange??
>
> Redundancy is nice, but email back-ups are futile. Backups might save
What are you running? Exchange??
Redundancy is nice, but email back-ups are futile. Backups might save
from most, but not all lost messages after a crash.
Anyway, before we divert to a some other topic, someone please answer
the question for the simplest case - we've already decided that every
RA
Just to remind:
rename() causes the link named from to be renamed as to. If to exists,
it is first removed. Both from and to must be of the same type (that is,
both directories or both non-directories), and must reside on the same
file system.
rename() guarantees that if to
Ciao Alessandro,
So, from the server, the client gets allocated 10.0.8.5/32
(btw, probably a minor thing, but in your server conf file, you have a
mismatch on the host/mask when you push the routes- it reads
push "route 10.1.1.1 255.255.0.0" while it should read 10.1.0.0)
(doesn't seem to both
On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:20 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:34:08 -0500 nixlists wrote:
>
>
> There is no certainty.
> There is only belief.
Tracing this discussion back to it's origins earlier this month, I see the
problem as arising from a statement made by a Mathematician
Am 24.01.10 01:32, schrieb jean-francois:
Hi list,
Can someone give a hin on how to make the speaker to beep for example with
a command or a C program ?
I started to write a little C program thinking there was a beep() functione,
but it seems not
Regards.
how about midiplay(1)?
Le lundi 25 janvier 2010 18:55:21, vous avez icrit :
> 2010/1/25 Markus Hennecke :
> > jean-francois wrote:
> >> Can someone give a hin on how to make the speaker to beep for example
> >> with a command or a C program ?
> >
> > man speaker(4), if you are on i386 or amd64.
>
> I'm so stupid. Of cour
Hello Alessandro,
Can you see any of the traffic on the inside LAN on the client side with
tcpdump?
I.e set tcpdump on $int with
tcpdump -i proto icmp
and then try to ping from a server?
Silly suggestion, but
What about client side firewalls? Do they allow to be pinged?
What is your se
On a completely unrelated note, I'm glad I came up with rules to redirect
all smtpd related mails to my phone ... smart idea ... :-)
Gilles
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:20:24AM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:34:08 -0500 nixlists wrote:
>
> > >> provided that the controller
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:34:08 -0500 nixlists wrote:
> >> provided that the controller is configured not to write-back cache,
> >> the drives are configured not to write-back cache, the FS is
> >> mounted 'sync'. No softupdates. Let's not divert this to something
> >> tangential and unrelated. I'll
Simen Stavdal wrote:
Hello Alessandro,
Can you see any of the traffic on the inside LAN on the client side
with tcpdump?
I.e set tcpdump on $int with
tcpdump -i proto icmp
and then try to ping from a server?
Silly suggestion, but
What about client side firewalls? Do they allow to be pi
Simen Stavdal wrote:
and...
do you have the routing table for some of the hosts that can/cannot
ping each other?
Are there other gateways out of the networks, other than the openvpn box?
S.
I'm trying openvpn in my internal network:
and...
do you have the routing table for some of the hosts that can/cannot ping
each other?
Are there other gateways out of the networks, other than the openvpn box?
S.
Alessandro Baggi wrote:
Johan Beisser wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Alessandro Baggi
wrote:
Johan Beisser w
Johan Beisser wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Alessandro Baggi
wrote:
Johan Beisser wrote:
Hi Johan. Thanks for the answer. I've reduced my pf.conf on client and
server side to:
ext="rl0"
int="rl1"
nat on $ext from $int:network -> $ext:0
nat on tun0 from $int:network ->
Johan Beisser wrote:
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Alessandro Baggi
wrote:
Hi list! I'm setting up a vpn between two openbsd firewall:
This is the scenario:
FW1 FW2
$ext 192.168.1.33 $ext 192.168.1.2
$int 10.1.1.1
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Alessandro Baggi
wrote:
> Johan Beisser wrote:
> Hi Johan. Thanks for the answer. I've reduced my pf.conf on client and
> server side to:
>
> ext="rl0"
> int="rl1"
>
> nat on $ext from $int:network -> $ext:0
> nat on tun0 from $int:network -> tun0:0
>
> pass all
2010/1/25 Markus Hennecke :
> jean-francois wrote:
>> Can someone give a hin on how to make the speaker to beep for example with
>> a command or a C program ?
>
> man speaker(4), if you are on i386 or amd64.
I'm so stupid. Of course it says right on that man page that there's
/dev/speaker, so with
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Alessandro Baggi
wrote:
> Hi list! I'm setting up a vpn between two openbsd firewall:
> This is the scenario:
>
> FW1 FW2
> $ext 192.168.1.33 $ext 192.168.1.2
> $int 10.1.1.1
On 01/23/2010 01:02 AM, Steve Shockley wrote:
On 1/22/2010 12:13 PM, Dan Harnett wrote
Nowhere in the article is proof provided that OpenBSD is insecure.
Sure there is; OpenBSD uses Sendmail and BIND, and they've had lots of
vulnerabilities!
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq1.html#HowAbout
http
On 2010-01-24, Sunnz wrote:
> Hi I am running OpenBSD as a gateway to the internet using pf to nat
> my LAN machines.
>
> Just wondering if there is a way to measure how much data have moved
> through my obsd router for a given frame of time? E.g. 300 MB today
> between 2pm ~ 5pm?
Using what's in
I used to run into problems on old equipment (old in 1997 already) running
the daily and weekly scripts early in the morning around the time I was
arriving at work.
find and conditional execution are one method available of checking the
age of the database.
#!/bin/ksh
/usr/b
Hi list! I'm setting up a vpn between two openbsd firewall:
This is the scenario:
FW1 FW2
$ext 192.168.1.33 $ext 192.168.1.2
$int 10.1.1.1 $int 192.168.7.1
$host 10.1.3.53 $host2
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:34:24PM +0100, Stefan Rinkes wrote:
> [SNEEP]
>
> Generally the best day to post these announcements is the first day
> of the fourth month of the year.
But the day these ideas are traditionally developed is on the t
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:34:24PM +0100, Stefan Rinkes wrote:
[SNEEP]
Generally the best day to post these announcements is the first day
of the fourth month of the year.
And if you're into product life cycle management, it's a wonderful day
for a product to be out of service...
--
Chris Dukes
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:04:15PM -0800, Ben Calvert wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2010, at 5:06 PM, nixlists wrote:
> >
> > I specifically wrote above "When configured as documented." No admin
> > will run a mail server with write-back cache enabled on either
> > controller or drives
>
> really? how sure
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On Jan 24 13:32:43, joshua stein wrote:
> > Cron runs the weekly update script every Saturday at 3:30am. If you
> > use a laptop or other desktop, your computer probably isn't on then.
> > So the locate and whatis databases never get updated unless you run it
> > by hand.
> >
> > So somebody shou
jean-francois wrote:
> Can someone give a hin on how to make the speaker to beep for example with
> a command or a C program ?
man speaker(4), if you are on i386 or amd64.
Kind regards,
Markus
* Steve Shockley (steve.shock...@shockley.net) wrote:
> On 1/24/2010 2:48 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
> >Cron runs the weekly update script every Saturday at 3:30am. If you
> >use a laptop or other desktop, your computer probably isn't on then.
> >So the locate and whatis databases never get updated un
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