match nat-to pass rule combination pflog output Clarification

2010-08-19 Thread Siju George
Hi,

 I have these rules for the interface vr1


match out on vr1 inet from 172.16.0.0/12 to any nat-to (vr1) round-robin
pass in log (all, to pflog1) quick on vr0 inet from tataips to any
flags S/SA keep state label route-to 122.247.14...@vr1
pass out log (all, to pflog3) quick on vr1 all flags S/SA keep state label

When I ssh from an IP 172.16.50.62 in the tataips table to a host
68.208.88.43 in the internet I get this corresponding traffic in
pflog3


Aug 19 11:57:26.180191 rule 6.atelandtata.2/(match) pass out on vr1:
172.16.50.62.37105  68.208.88.43.22: S 2259539342:2259539342(0) win
5840 mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp 1855434[|tcp] (DF)
Aug 19 11:57:26.439956 rule 6/(match) pass in on vr1: 68.208.88.43.22
 172.16.50.62.37105: S 1444742373:1444742373(0) ack 2259539343 win
5792 mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp 3649103802[|tcp] (DF)
Aug 19 11:57:26.440115 rule 6/(match) pass out on vr1:
122.247.145.232.64346  68.208.88.43.22: . ack 1444742374 win 92
nop,nop,timestamp 1855513 3649103802 (DF)
Aug 19 11:57:26.705532 rule 6/(match) pass in on vr1: 68.208.88.43.22
 172.16.50.62.37105: P 1:37(36) ack 1 win 46 nop,nop,timestamp
3649103869 1855513 (DF)

Even though there is a match rule to nat In the first pflog3 out put I
see the IP 172.16.50.62
But in the next line I see the Nated IP 122.247.145.232

Why is that private IP not natted in the first line?

Thanks :-)

--Siju



Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-19 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/8/17, Jiri B. ji...@live.com:
 what's up with vpn and samba?

who goes around, comes around...

-- 
Martin Pelik an



Re: MeTA1 (was: MTA choice)

2010-08-19 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:43:49 -0700
Claus Assmann ca+openbsd_m...@esmtp.org wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
 
  Meta1, which is viewed by some as a sendmail made right is still
  in very deep pre-alpha state... what a pity.   
 
 Despite being called pre-alpha MeTA1 runs without problems
 for years at various sites.  It's in pre-alpha to make my
 life easier: I can make changes without offering backward
 compatibility. While I try to avoid that, it reduces my
 workload if those changes are deemed necessary (however, I
 provided scripts/instructions for upgrading each time this
 happened).
 
 Alternatively, I could just go through the release process to make
 MeTA1-1.0.0 available and then start MeTA1-2.0.PreAlpha0, but I'm
 not sure whether that's the right thing to do.
 
 Do quote the MeTA1 docs:
 
 PreAlpha: This means the software is not feature complete and hence
 might be missing some functionality that is considered important
 by different users.  Additionally, there might be no compatibility
 in data structures stored on disk between different pre-alpha
 versions, e.g., when upgrading from PreAlpha16 to PreAlpha17 the
 main queue format may have changed without checks in the software
 for this.  Hence old queues must be drained before upgrading.
 Moreover, the protocols used for communication between MeTA1 modules
 may have changed without providing backward compatibility, therefore
 modules from different releases must not be used together.  Such
 incompatibilities are usually stated in the list of changes.

Yeah, I got the point, thank you.

-- 
With best regards,
Gregory Edigarov



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-19 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
 I bet that is the controlled shut down where applications create windows
 and then destroy them before scrotwm can focus on them. B I fixed this in
 cvs and would appreciate a test report. B CVS instructions are on the www
 scrotwm page and it conveniently installs over the pkg.

I checked out sources from cvs and then make ; sudo make install, but
it's still same version as in packages/ports (0.9.25). Same version
type is in scrotwm.c



 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 Hi all,

 did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
 xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
 I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
 xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
 way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
 must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
 discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
 then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
 not working anymore and I must kill X from console.

 So someone here with similar behaviour?


 OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #356: Mon Aug B 9 00:28:02 MDT 2010
 B  B  dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
 cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
 686-class) 2.93 GHz
 cpu0:

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
 real mem B = 3487125504 (3325MB)
 avail mem = 3420106752 (3261MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/13/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
 0xffea0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0450 (82 entries)
 bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A03 date 02/13/2010
 bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 780
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET DMAR SLIC SSDT SSDT
 SSDT
 acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5)
 PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
 USB4(S3) USB5(S3)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
 686-class) 2.93 GHz
 cpu1:

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI4)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
 acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
 acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
 acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
 acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1, PSS
 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1, PSS
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x2000! 0xd2000/0x2800!
 0xd4800/0x3800
 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2926 MHz: speeds: 2933, 2667, 2400, 2133,
 1867, 1600 MHz
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Q45 Host rev 0x03
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel Q45 PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16
(irq
 11)
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 3470 rev 0x00
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
 drm0 at radeondrm0
 em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH10 D BM LM rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 21 (irq 10), address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
 uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 16 (irq 11)
 uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 22 (irq 3)
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 22 (irq 3)
 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801JD HD Audio rev 0x02:
 apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
 azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1984A
 audio0 at azalia0
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 16 (irq 11)
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 23 (irq 10)
 uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 18 (irq 10)
 ehci1 

Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-19 Thread openbsd
Hi,

I tried other test:
I configured /etc/mailer.conf to use smtpctl and makemap.
my /etc/mail/virtual :
wes...@totoxx.org:  wesley
r...@totoxx.org:  root
After i done : makemap -t aliases -o /etc/mail/virtual.db /etc/mail/virtual

my /etc/mail/smtpd.conf :
listen on lo0
listen on sis0
map aliases { source db /etc/mail/aliases.db }
map virtual { source db /etc/mail/virtual.db }
accept for local deliver to mbox
accept from all for domain totoxx.org deliver to mbox
accept for all relay

I can send email for example to @gmail, but i comes with the name of my
hostname : wes...@puffymail.my.domain instead of wes...@totoxx.org. Why ?
I can't receive emails. Can you help me, please ?

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:28:20 +0200, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org
wrote:
 
 yes it is possible to send mails with the one from 4.7 but it lacks
 many bug fixes and you shouldn't use it
 
 your smtpd.conf lacks a rule to allow local host to send outgoing
 mails:
 
 accept for all relay



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-19 Thread Gilles Chehade

On 8/19/2010 11:51 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:

Hi,

I tried other test:
I configured /etc/mailer.conf to use smtpctl and makemap.
my /etc/mail/virtual :
wes...@totoxx.org:  wesley
r...@totoxx.org:  root
After i done : makemap -t aliases -o /etc/mail/virtual.db /etc/mail/virtual

my /etc/mail/smtpd.conf :
listen on lo0
listen on sis0
map aliases { source db /etc/mail/aliases.db }
map virtual { source db /etc/mail/virtual.db }
accept for local deliver to mbox
accept from all for domain totoxx.org deliver to mbox
accept for all relay

I can send email for example to @gmail, but i comes with the name of my
hostname : wes...@puffymail.my.domain instead of wes...@totoxx.org. Why ?
I can't receive emails. Can you help me, please ?

   


smtpd does not support masquerading, you need to use a MUA that lets you 
provide the sender address. if you want mailer-daemons to come from 
totoxx.org you need to set your machine hostname to totoxx.org


i don't know if jacek has plans to implement masquerading in a near 
future, you need to ask him


gilles



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-19 Thread Marco Peereboom
no it isn't.  the external version isn't the same as the cvs version.
obviously we don't change the external version after every commit.

use m-s-v for the real version.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:32:38AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
  I bet that is the controlled shut down where applications create windows
  and then destroy them before scrotwm can focus on them. B I fixed this in
  cvs and would appreciate a test report. B CVS instructions are on the www
  scrotwm page and it conveniently installs over the pkg.
 
 I checked out sources from cvs and then make ; sudo make install, but
 it's still same version as in packages/ports (0.9.25). Same version
 type is in scrotwm.c
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
  xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
  I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
  xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
  way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
  must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
  discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
  then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
  not working anymore and I must kill X from console.
 
  So someone here with similar behaviour?
 
 
  OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #356: Mon Aug B 9 00:28:02 MDT 2010
  B  B  dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
  RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
  cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
  686-class) 2.93 GHz
  cpu0:
 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
 
 H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
  ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
  real mem B = 3487125504 (3325MB)
  avail mem = 3420106752 (3261MB)
  mainbus0 at root
  bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/13/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
  0xffea0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0450 (82 entries)
  bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A03 date 02/13/2010
  bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 780
  acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
  acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
  acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET DMAR SLIC SSDT SSDT
  SSDT
  acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5)
  PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
  USB4(S3) USB5(S3)
  acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
  acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
  cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
  cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
  cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
  cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
  686-class) 2.93 GHz
  cpu1:
 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
 
 H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
  ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
  ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
  ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
  acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
  acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI4)
  acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
  acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
  acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
  acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
  acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
  acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
  acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1, PSS
  acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1, PSS
  acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
  bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x2000! 0xd2000/0x2800!
  0xd4800/0x3800
  cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2926 MHz: speeds: 2933, 2667, 2400, 2133,
  1867, 1600 MHz
  pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
  pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Q45 Host rev 0x03
  ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel Q45 PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16
 (irq
  11)
  pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
  vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 3470 rev 0x00
  wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
  drm0 at radeondrm0
  em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH10 D BM LM rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 21 (irq 10), address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
  uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 16 (irq 11)
  uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 17 (irq 9)
  uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 22 (irq 3)
  ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 22 (irq 3)
  usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
  uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
  azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801JD HD Audio rev 0x02:
  apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
  azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1984A
  audio0 at azalia0
  ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 16 (irq 11)
  pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
  ppb2 at pci0 dev 

Re: undeadly article

2010-08-19 Thread SJP Lists
On 18 August 2010 23:57, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:28:57PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
 Hello,

 My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my
 opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more
 anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ?

 I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
 flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
 and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
 have the nose to see what they are dealing with.

 bullshit.  sorry, but that is not true.

 I regularly get picked on by authority, but it's alwasy just been
 a pointless hassle.  I'll never forget the time a cop stopped me
 in my own neighborhood, in the rain, for walking against a signal,
 when his car was the only moving vehicle within a half mile.  the
 best part was when he dropped his papers in a puddle.

Flying from Melbourne to Sydney, at the Qantas baggage scanner I was
very sternly challenged as to what exactly an item was on my keyring
(a rubber Corsair Flash Voyager GT 16GB thumbdrive).  Before I could
answer, she said is this an MP3 player!?, as if it was a crime.
No, it's a thumb drive storage device, oh okay then.

Seriously.  I'd hate it to have been one of the new Corsair Padlock2
drives, complete with number pads and blinken lights that blinken with
key presses without the need for power from a computer.  I'm sure it
would have been taken for a wireless detonation device.

Then when I carry on lots of explosives (spare Li-ion laptop batteries
on account that we can't courier them any more with laptops between
offices!), nobody blinks an eye!  Even though I now know that I had
too many of them.


Shane



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-19 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
 no it isn't. B the external version isn't the same as the cvs version.
 obviously we don't change the external version after every commit.

 use m-s-v for the real version.

Welcome to scrotwm V0.9.25 cvs tag: $scrotwm: scrotwm.c,v 1.300
2010/08/11 03:15:40 marco Exp $

but problem is still same.


 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:32:38AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
wrote:
  I bet that is the controlled shut down where applications create windows
  and then destroy them before scrotwm can focus on them. B I fixed this
in
  cvs and would appreciate a test report. B CVS instructions are on the
www
  scrotwm page and it conveniently installs over the pkg.

 I checked out sources from cvs and then make ; sudo make install, but
 it's still same version as in packages/ports (0.9.25). Same version
 type is in scrotwm.c


 
  On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
  xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
  I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
  xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
  way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
  must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
  discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
  then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
  not working anymore and I must kill X from console.
 
  So someone here with similar behaviour?
 
 
  OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #356: Mon Aug B 9 00:28:02 MDT 2010
  B B B
B dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
  RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
  cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
  686-class) 2.93 GHz
  cpu0:
 

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
 

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
  ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
  real mem B = 3487125504 (3325MB)
  avail mem = 3420106752 (3261MB)
  mainbus0 at root
  bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/13/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
  0xffea0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0450 (82 entries)
  bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A03 date 02/13/2010
  bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 780
  acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
  acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
  acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET DMAR SLIC SSDT
SSDT
  SSDT
  acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5)
  PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
  USB4(S3) USB5(S3)
  acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
  acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
  cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
  cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
  cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
  cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
  686-class) 2.93 GHz
  cpu1:
 

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
 

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
  ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
  ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
  ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
  acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
  acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI4)
  acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
  acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
  acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
  acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
  acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
  acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
  acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1, PSS
  acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1, PSS
  acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
  bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x2000! 0xd2000/0x2800!
  0xd4800/0x3800
  cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2926 MHz: speeds: 2933, 2667, 2400, 2133,
  1867, 1600 MHz
  pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
  pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Q45 Host rev 0x03
  ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel Q45 PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16
 (irq
  11)
  pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
  vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 3470 rev 0x00
  wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
  drm0 at radeondrm0
  em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH10 D BM LM rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 21 (irq 10), address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
  uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 16 (irq 11)
  uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 17 (irq 9)
  uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 22 (irq 3)
  ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
  int 22 (irq 3)
  usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
  uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
  azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801JD HD Audio rev 0x02:
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Re: undeadly article

2010-08-19 Thread Mihai Popescu B.S.
Hello,

Here is my last post to this thread. No time to argue out of the
subject. My point is it is safer not to hurt yourself, in this case is
safer to avoid unnecessary conflicts and treatments on the airport.
Why ? The worst thing it can happen in this situation is   well,
you are held there and you can't reach anymore the hackathon meeting.
So nice.

I was drive to open this thread by the memory of another case with
someone from open source. My intention was not to judge people  ( J.C.
vs. R) but behaviours.

So J.C. of course you are others are free to do and write whatever you
like, but I think your scenario was set up from home. I know what
sarcasm is, please avoid using wikipedia as a reference, it looks not
so nice.
Here are a few translations of my own for local humour, here in
Eastern Europe ( no hints included : )

 You do not put a flea on a white paper. 
 You do not wear a towel on your head if you don't have a headache.

No hate involved from my side.



Pragmatics of Following current

2010-08-19 Thread Luis Useche
Hi Guys,

I have been meaning to follow current for a couple of weeks now. I read the
Building Sources page and it seems like I should follow the process of:
cvs up src xenocara ports - compile - install, where install includes
merging of configuration files. Moreover, I should also keep an eye on the
Following -current webpage for any change I should make. This looks like a
lot of work every-time you run cvs up (mainly the compilation of ports and
merging of conf files).

I was wondering how do you usually work on current and if you all follow
this process through-fully. If not, what kind of tricks do you use to make
the process easier.

For now, I am using snapshots with binary packages.

Thanks in advance,
Luis.



Re: Pragmatics of Following current

2010-08-19 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:02:11PM -0400, Luis Useche wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 
 I have been meaning to follow current for a couple of weeks now. I read the
 Building Sources page and it seems like I should follow the process of:
 cvs up src xenocara ports - compile - install, where install includes
 merging of configuration files. Moreover, I should also keep an eye on the
 Following -current webpage for any change I should make. This looks like a
 lot of work every-time you run cvs up (mainly the compilation of ports and
 merging of conf files).
 
 I was wondering how do you usually work on current and if you all follow
 this process through-fully. If not, what kind of tricks do you use to make
 the process easier.
 
 For now, I am using snapshots with binary packages.

Quite honestly, that's more useful, as snapshots

a) are generally close enough to -current that you're more or less
   running -current anyway; and

b) sometimes contain diffs which haven't made -current but need testing,
   which means that you're actually running a more -current -current at times

 
 Thanks in advance,

You're welcome...from *the future*

- Bert

 Luis.



Re: Pragmatics of Following current

2010-08-19 Thread andres
Quoting Luis Useche use...@gmail.com:

 Hi Guys,

 I have been meaning to follow current for a couple of weeks now. I read the
 Building Sources page and it seems like I should follow the process of:
 cvs up src xenocara ports - compile - install, where install includes
 merging of configuration files. Moreover, I should also keep an eye on the
 Following -current webpage for any change I should make. This looks like
a
 lot of work every-time you run cvs up (mainly the compilation of ports and
 merging of conf files).

 I was wondering how do you usually work on current and if you all follow
 this process through-fully. If not, what kind of tricks do you use to make
 the process easier.

 For now, I am using snapshots with binary packages.

 Thanks in advance,
 Luis.

It really is't that hard to do.  If you follow the examples for all this
in the release man page, it is straightforward, and when you
crash into something odd, it's at least a 90% chance that you
botched something, as opposed to the tree being borked.

Subscribing to the src changes list is really very very usefu.
This lets you see the changes to the system at the atomic level,
and in time you'll recognize the stuff that needs only a kernel
recompile, or even just a part of userland to be rebuilt.  At first
though, rebuilding eveything is the right way to go.

It really isn't a lot of work.  If you run script(1) when doing a cvsup
you can go back to that and see whats new, which might be a
big help in determining if you want to rebuild stuff or not.  Depening
on whats being changed the most in a given week, you might
not bother rebuilding things for a while.  Other times, a single
change to a library where the major number is bumped you'd
want to rebuild everything.

A certain amount of experimentation on a spare machine is a
great way to blow things up and then let you figure out how to
repair stuff in a non pressure-cooker environment.  By taking
the time to learn and messing things up you'll be in much better
shape for real systems that you depend on.

A door-stop 400MHz Dell with 256M is a great system for doing
with with if you're on a budget.  Building your own packages is
harder, in that you can screw up in lots of ways.  You also want
as fast a machine as you can get for that.  My 2.1GHz package
machine takes about 60 hours for a run.  But before you do that
learn about OpenBSD proper first.

--STeve Andre'



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-19 Thread openbsd
Hi,

I juste tried it, and it works very fine !!
I added SMTPS without any difficulty !
Very good job !!


On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:13:08 +0200, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org
wrote:
 smtpd does not support masquerading, you need to use a MUA that lets you 
 provide the sender address. if you want mailer-daemons to come from 
 totoxx.org you need to set your machine hostname to totoxx.org
 
 i don't know if jacek has plans to implement masquerading in a near 
 future, you need to ask him
 
 gilles



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can donate a eeepc 701 battery

2010-08-19 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

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