Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread Anonymous
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:

  I feel the price is too high
 
 then don't buy a lemote, case closed.

The question was about where to get a good price on one. Scroll up asshole.

 the person you insulted.

I insulted nobody except people who attacked me for daring to express the
opinion that the price of the mini is too FUCKING HIGH!!!

 keep going, 2 developers insulted. that is going to give you a lot of
 karma points here.

Shaking and quaking ;-)

 you have no idea what I do or don't.

But you do about me? I got a bulletin for you, your crystal ball needs
rebooting

 aha. again you know sth about me I haven't said. genius!

Lot of that going around

 it is arguable wether we argue or are just making fun of the OP (you,
 aparently). 

keep jerking off if it makes you feel better

 my only assumption was that you want to run OpenBSD. And that should
 be a pretty safe assumption on misc@ _OPENBSD_ .org.

Uh no. OpenBSD is one of the OS that runs on MIPS. I thought I could get
some help on where to find a cheap MIPS box, specifically the Lemote. Oh
well! Arrogant motherfucker!

 we tell you to just not buy the device in question if you don't wanna
 pay its price. that doesn't even require you to make your genius and
 superiour morals public.

But your bandwidth is justified in your own eyes I am sure

 hey miod, we must convince the rest of us to leave openbsd, this guy
 here said so, and he's obviously an omniscient genius.

Don't try to twist my words. I said nothing bad about OpenBSD or
miod. You're a shit stirring little fagot doing your best to draw everyone
into your little sharkfest. If you don't have signal to add to the thread at
least don't add to the noise.



Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread bofh
Are we a tourette treatment center?




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Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread Nomen Nescio
 On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:10:19 +0100, Nomen Nescio nob...@dizum.com wrote:
 
  Why not? They're using their own chip design. I doubt they pay MIPS.inc  
  for a license but maybe they do.
 
 FYI, they has a MIPS license.

Thank you. I stand corrected.



Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread Rafal Bisingier
Hi,

On, 03 Jan 2012 o 08:59 CET
Anonymous cri...@ecn.org wrote:

 If you don't have signal to add to the thread at least don't add to the noise.

Could you please follow your own advise and simply STFU?

-- 
Rafal Bisingier



Re: create a backup of an online server

2012-01-03 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:59:40 +0100
Vitali coonar...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Wouldn't you consider AMANDA http://www.amanda.org
 I had been using it for long in my previous support engineering life.
 It's nice.

Yeah, AMANDA is great, but seems to be an overkill when you just need
to backup one or 2 servers, or your changes are minimal.


-- 
With best regards,
Gregory Edigarov



Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread David Coppa
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Nomen Nescio nob...@dizum.com wrote:

 Instead you motherfuckers are lecturing me on why I should pay 200 or
 250 bucks for 5 dollars worth of slave-labor hardware as if you're all
 shareholders.

Apple's iPhone is slave-labor hardware too: how much does it cost?
...As well as all the other electronic gadgets on the market, btw...

ciao
David



Re: Please help me

2012-01-03 Thread Nomen Nescio
 I never mean to disturb you with what is going on in my family but I am
 crying out loud to request your help. My twin sister has been suffering
 from breast cancer for a while and its become worse so we had to conclude
 on her surgery for her to get cured as said by the doctors but the cost is
 high. The doctors said the cost of the surgery is $12,550 and since my dad
 left us alone in 2002, our mom has been the only one taking care of me, my
 twin sister and my younger brother. 

That is TERRIBLE news!

 I am glad that many of our family members and friends did their best and
 we've been able to put together $11,770 but it remains $780 for the
 surgery. I don't want her to die, Sonia is my twin sister and I love her
 so much. The pains she has been going through is hard. 

Call tekmote.nl. They make a bundle on selling Lemote minis for a few
hundred times actual cost. Not sure where the markup is, maybe they are not
to blame. Who knows. One thing's for sure they have the money you need.

 Please, I will be glad if you are able to render any help to my family for
 her to be cured.

Either donating to you or buying a Lemote mini. H decisions decisions!



Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread Fritz Wuehler
 I know a bunch of people with SGI O2's that might let them go for
 that. How many do you want?

Not familiar with those. I'll have a look thanks.



Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread Nomen Nescio
 Apple's iPhone is slave-labor hardware too: how much does it cost?

Too right. How many people have thrown themselves from Foxconn's towers?

 ...As well as all the other electronic gadgets on the market, btw...

Not all but many. It is worthwhile looking into how what we buy affects
people. 



Re: TCO, txpause, rxpause and other nice things on em adapters

2012-01-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-01-03,  ??? chipits...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/1/2 Christian Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de:
 Ilya Shipitsin chipits...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm running servers with em NICs.  People on list reported things
 like

 hwfeatures=8037CSUM_IPv4,CSUM_TCPv4,CSUM_UDPv4,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,WOL
 ,
 I do not see such options in ifconfig output.

 Try ifconfig em0 hwfeatures on -current.

 f2n0:/root#ifconfig em0 hwfeatures
 ifconfig: hwfeatures: bad value



 it doesn't work on 5.0RELEASE ?

There wouldn't be much point saying on -current if it worked in 5.0.
You won't see much output for em(4) though, we don't use offloading
there.



Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread Nomen Nescio
 Are we a tourette treatment center?

Why don't you add it to your .sig shithead ;-)

 
 
 
 
 --
 http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
 This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity.
 -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.
 Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or
 internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks
 factory where smoking on the job is permitted.  -- Gene Spafford
 learn french:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4



Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2012-01-03 Thread Anonymous
  If you don't have signal to add to the thread at least don't add to the 
  noise.
 
 Could you please follow your own advise and simply STFU?
 
 -- 
 Rafal Bisingier

As long as you shitheads keep your gang bang going the STFU is going to have
to come from you.



PF Snort tutorial

2012-01-03 Thread Bentley, Dain
I've been looking around for a good tutorial on implementing snort with PF and
everything I see is old, does anyone know of or have implemented a solution
using an IDS/IPS with PF on the same box?  If possible I'd like snort of some
other IDS inspect packets and have pf drop them based on the fact they match
certain signatures.  Thanks in advance.



[PF] bug in port range.

2012-01-03 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Hello, happy new year.

I think there is a off-by-one error in Packet Filter port ranges, for
example with an exclude boundary range : port1  port2

PF or pfctl does not check that port1 = port2 and if port1  port2 the
port range is not correct. 

For example 82  80 is not the same as 80  82 (but should IMO).

I've tested with these rules:

pass in quick
block out quick proto tcp from self to 94.23.254.147 port 82  80
pass out quick

Then, port 81 is not filtered out.

Thanks, regards.



Re: problem running named in non 0 rdomain

2012-01-03 Thread Russell Garrison
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote:

 I'm pretty sure the child will be inheriting the rdomain from the process
 which forked it.


I can offer the anecdote that when I ran sshd using the route -exec
wrapper my child session would exist in whatever rdomain was hosting
the daemon. Ended up backing away from this approach and sticking with
pf rules, so I didn't have sshd parent processes littering my machine.
I'll assume you don't want to use pf to land queries on the daemon, so
the next question is did you try creating a loopback address in the
non-zero rdomain to get the control port you need?



Re: [PF] bug in port range.

2012-01-03 Thread Henning Brauer
* Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org [2012-01-03 17:45]:
 I think there is a off-by-one error in Packet Filter port ranges, for
 example with an exclude boundary range : port1  port2

nope.

 Ports and ranges of ports are specified using these operators:
   :   (range including boundaries)
 (range excluding boundaries)

yes, that is from the manpage, of course.
 explicitely EXCLUDES the boundaries. now where is that off by one?

 PF or pfctl does not check that port1 = port2 and if port1  port2 the
 port range is not correct. 

pf does what you, the operator, tells it to do.

 For example 82  80 is not the same as 80  82 (but should IMO).

should? why?
port 82  80 defines a range that can't match, and it doesn't. as in,
all is good. when you mean 80  82 you ought to write 80  82 and
not 82  80.

 Then, port 81 is not filtered out.

correct, that is exactly what you told pf to do and it does.

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Re: [PF] bug in port range.

2012-01-03 Thread Russell Garrison
For those of us playing the CS home game. Is this an example of
left-to right evaluation? My thought on this was that the value 81
isn't greater than 82 and isn't less than 80, so the rule doesn't
match.



Re: [PF] bug in port range.

2012-01-03 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:54:18 +0100,
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de a icrit :

Hello,

 * Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org [2012-01-03 17:45]:
  I think there is a off-by-one error in Packet Filter port ranges,
  for example with an exclude boundary range : port1  port2
 
 nope.
 
  Ports and ranges of ports are specified using these
 operators: :   (range including boundaries)
  (range excluding boundaries)
 
 yes, that is from the manpage, of course.
  explicitely EXCLUDES the boundaries. now where is that off by one?

Please forget the off-by-one, I've found that 82:80 differs from
80:82 :)
 
  PF or pfctl does not check that port1 = port2 and if port1  port2
  the port range is not correct. 
 
 pf does what you, the operator, tells it to do.
 
  For example 82  80 is not the same as 80  82 (but should IMO).
 
 should? why?

Well because for me 80:82 is (80, 81, 82) and 82:80 the same
items and so the same range.

But you are right, the man page is explicit. I should re-read it
more often.

So what is the meaning for PF of the range 82:80? If this is a non
sense, an error from pfctl would be cool.

 port 82  80 defines a range that can't match, and it doesn't. as in,
 all is good. when you mean 80  82 you ought to write 80  82 and
 not 82  80.

Sure, but when using service name it's easy to make a mistake. In fact
I've found this strange behavior while translating a Cisco acl :

permit tcp any any range ftp ftp-data 

Translated to port ftp:ftp-data, which if I understand well does not
mean anything for PF.

Thanks, regards.



Re: problem running named in non 0 rdomain

2012-01-03 Thread Pete Vickers
On 1. jan. 2012, at 23.40, Stuart Henderson wrote:

 On 2012-01-01, Pete Vickers p...@systemnet.no wrote:
 snippet from /etc/named-gn.conf :
 controls {
   inet 10.20.30.2 port 954 allow {10.20.30.2;} keys {rndc-key;};
 };

 then it also fails and complains thus:

 Jan  1 09:01:49 ns0 named[8504]: [child]: disallowed port 954
 Jan  1 09:01:49 ns0 named[8504]: /etc/named-gn.conf:19: couldn't add
command
 channel 10.20.30.2#954: permission denied
 Jan  1 09:01:49 ns0 named[8504]: running

 So I guess that named's (unprivileged?) child does not honour (inherit?)
the
 parent's rdomain, and thus cannot bind to either rdomain '0' or '1',
 succesfully ?

 The child process only allows binding to ports 53/953/921, see
 usr.sbin/bind/lib/isc/unix/privsep.c line 190.

 I'm pretty sure the child will be inheriting the rdomain from the process
 which forked it.


ahh. Indeed. Once I used an approved port, it appear happy even in the
non-defualt table:

root@ns0 ~ # route -T 1 exec rndc -s 10.20.30.2 status
number of zones: 3
debug level: 0
xfers running: 0
xfers deferred: 0
soa queries in progress: 0
query logging is ON
recursive clients: 0/0/1000
tcp clients: 0/100
server is up and running


thanks for the clue.

/Pete



Re: PF Snort tutorial

2012-01-03 Thread Stefan Wollny
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 I've been looking around for a good tutorial on implementing snort

 with PF and everything I see is old, does anyone know of or have

 implemented a solution using an IDS/IPS with PF on the same box?  If

 possible I'd like snort of some other IDS inspect packets and have pf

 drop them based on the fact they match certain signatures.  Thanks in

 advance.

 



Hi Dain,



have you seen this before: http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/nagios/



It's not SNORT but Nagios, but Daniele Mazzocchio did an awful good job

in explaining why and how he set up his system. Though it's still

related to OBSD 4.6 the principles are still true.



Kind regards,

STEFAN

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Re: PF Snort tutorial

2012-01-03 Thread Andres Genovez
2012/1/3 Bentley, Dain dbent...@nas.edu

 I've been looking around for a good tutorial on implementing snort with PF
 and
 everything I see is old, does anyone know of or have implemented a solution
 using an IDS/IPS with PF on the same box?  If possible I'd like snort of
 some
 other IDS inspect packets and have pf drop them based on the fact they
 match
 certain signatures.  Thanks in advance.


Implimenting that is really a Pain in the hell out..I did it on a 4.9,
i need to do it from sources, there is no complete tutorial, it works on
4.9, not implemented with PF tought...

Greetings...



--
Atentamente

Andris Genovez Tobar / Tecnico
Elastix ECE - Linux  LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT
http://www.puntonet.ec



Re: TCO, txpause, rxpause and other nice things on em adapters

2012-01-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote:

 There wouldn't be much point saying on -current if it worked in 5.0.
 You won't see much output for em(4) though, we don't use offloading
 there.

We use it on the receive side, but that doesn't show up in hwfeatures.

For transmission, TCP/UDP checksumming is disabled because em(4)
is one of those NICs that needs the pseudo-header checksum to be
initialized and pf's checksum fixup breaks this for localhost
redirects.

I guess IP header checksum offload could be enabled for TX, but I
doubt that this would produce any gain.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de



Re: PF Snort tutorial

2012-01-03 Thread Bentley, Dain
ughthat's what I thought.
I'm reading through some OSSEC docs right now and it seems pretty promising.
Having trouble finding anything about having it read from pflog.

From: Andres Genovez [andresgeno...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:04 PM
To: Bentley, Dain
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: PF Snort tutorial

2012/1/3 Bentley, Dain dbent...@nas.edumailto:dbent...@nas.edu
I've been looking around for a good tutorial on implementing snort with PF
and
everything I see is old, does anyone know of or have implemented a solution
using an IDS/IPS with PF on the same box?  If possible I'd like snort of some
other IDS inspect packets and have pf drop them based on the fact they match
certain signatures.  Thanks in advance.


Implimenting that is really a Pain in the hell out..I did it on a 4.9, i
need to do it from sources, there is no complete tutorial, it works on 4.9,
not implemented with PF tought...

Greetings...



--
Atentamente

Andris Genovez Tobar / Tecnico
Elastix ECE - Linux  LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT
http://www.puntonet.ec



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Re: PF Snort tutorial

2012-01-03 Thread Vadim Agarkov

Maybe you should try snort2pf from pkg ?

Information for 
http://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/5.0/packages/i386/snort2pf-4.5p0.tgz


Comment:
block nasty hosts with pf(4) based on Snort's rules

Description:
Snort2Pf is a small Perl daemon which greps Snort's alertfile and 
blocks

the naughty hosts for a given amount of time using pfctl.

Maintainer: The OpenBSD ports mailing-list po...@openbsd.org

WWW: http://sourceforge.net/projects/snort2pf/


---
Thanks,
Vadim Agarkov

On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:56:13 -0500, Bentley, Dain wrote:

ughthat's what I thought.
I'm reading through some OSSEC docs right now and it seems pretty 
promising.

Having trouble finding anything about having it read from pflog.

From: Andres Genovez [andresgeno...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:04 PM
To: Bentley, Dain
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: PF Snort tutorial

2012/1/3 Bentley, Dain dbent...@nas.edumailto:dbent...@nas.edu
I've been looking around for a good tutorial on implementing snort 
with PF

and
everything I see is old, does anyone know of or have implemented a 
solution
using an IDS/IPS with PF on the same box?  If possible I'd like snort 
of some
other IDS inspect packets and have pf drop them based on the fact 
they match

certain signatures.  Thanks in advance.


Implimenting that is really a Pain in the hell out..I did it on a 
4.9, i
need to do it from sources, there is no complete tutorial, it works 
on 4.9,

not implemented with PF tought...

Greetings...



--
Atentamente

Andris Genovez Tobar / Tecnico
Elastix ECE - Linux  LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT
http://www.puntonet.ec




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