Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread Andres Perera
when st or a similarly small project passes a test for vim, emacs, mutt, other popular ncurses clients, then it's worth thinking about replacing xterm in absence of such test, settle for vttest, which also tests for features that aren't as widely used something like an xterm replacement needs to

Re: Compilers in OpenBSD

2013-07-31 Thread hub
Finally. Someone who's really smart Explained Everything in a solid bug-free english text (shame on me). > And if/when such a switch happens, bugs will trigger and problems will > need fixing; and we can not risk being naive enough to expect llvm > developers to handle bug reports and bugfix rele

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread hub
> The 4014 support is much more uncommon, but I do actually use it > occasionally[1]. > > The real issue is that people now expect X to come with xterm and that's > that. Removing xterm would be quite unfortunate, as it breaks people's > expectations of how the system works. Okay, jeez... I think

Compilers in OpenBSD

2013-07-31 Thread Miod Vallat
A recent discussion (``Default software in the base'') suggests using Clang/LLVM as the system compiler in OpenBSD in the short-term future. This discussion hasn't really gone anywhere, yet I thought I could waste bandwidth with my thoughts as the current de-facto compiler maintainer in OpenBSD. M

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Martin Brandenburg wrote: > xterm supports two terminals, DEC VT100 and Tektronix 4014. Actually, xterm's main emulation target has been the VT220 for many years, and about a year ago the default emulation level has been switched to VT420. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread Martin Brandenburg
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 08:31:41PM +0400, h...@riseup.net wrote: > These are optional dependencies, it can be compiled without them given you do > this by hand. > A minimal installation doesn't require any gtk libs, neither it does gettext, > iconv or perl. Most of > the bloat is hidden inside th

Re: spamd: sync init: Device not configured

2013-07-31 Thread Craig R. Skinner
On 2013-07-31 Wed 14:25 PM |, Peter Hessler wrote: > You need to change those to the correct IPs or hostnames for your > configuration. > Thanks Peter. This works: spamd_flags="-y [ip.address] -Y mx-backup" When testing with various hostnames with the -y option, all failed with the "Device not

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread Theo de Raadt
> All right, people, just don't get mad on my proclaimations after all... So you've got an opinion, and something else.

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread hub
Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2013-07-29, h...@riseup.net wrote: > > URXVT > > * The code base is half the size of XTerm's > > given that you have to include things like glib, gettext and iconv in this, > somehow I doubt this... > > $ pkg_info -S rxvt-unicode > Information for inst:rxvt-unicode-9

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread Zoran Kolic
> couldn't you actually provide an example link on freebsd lists clang > discussion that > you found untolerable/suspicious? I will provide you with few links on the subject and let you make your own conclusions. Personally, I have no for or against feeling. https://wiki.FreeBSD.org/BuildingFree

Re: Softraid disks status in daily?

2013-07-31 Thread Federico Giannici
I use a simple script in sensorsd. My suggestion was to have a simple way to be informed in every default installation. Thanks. On 07/31/13 15:11, Stefan Sperling wrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 09:36:37AM +0200, Federico Giannici wrote: Hi. What about showing softraid disks status in the "d

Re: Softraid disks status in daily?

2013-07-31 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 09:36:37AM +0200, Federico Giannici wrote: > Hi. > What about showing softraid disks status in the "daily" script? > It could be shown just after the disk usage ("df -kl"). > > I know the correct way to be notified when a disk has some failure > is to use sensorsd, but it h

Re: Hyper-V and OpenBSD

2013-07-31 Thread Anders Berggren
> This is running the latest version with all the current patches. However, each > time when I create a VM instance; the network doesn't work or work properly. > If I use the default NIC, it doesn't work at all; but the legacy NIC is > recognized as de0. However, it gets stuck after fetching the fi

Hyper-V and OpenBSD

2013-07-31 Thread Anckur Sindhu
Hi, I've searched the net on how to effectively get OpenBSD installed on a Windows 2012 Datacenter running Hyper-V. There are a few guides on FreeBSD and a couple of posts with OpenBSD. Each one talks about the NIC. Which is what I am having problems with... This is running the latest version wit

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-07-29, h...@riseup.net wrote: > URXVT > * The code base is half the size of XTerm's given that you have to include things like glib, gettext and iconv in this, somehow I doubt this... $ pkg_info -S rxvt-unicode Information for inst:rxvt-unicode-9.18 Signature: rxvt-unicode-9.18,@gdk-pi

Re: spamd: sync init: Device not configured

2013-07-31 Thread Peter Hessler
You need to change those to the correct IPs or hostnames for your configuration. On 2013 Jul 31 (Wed) at 13:10:40 +0100 (+0100), Craig R. Skinner wrote: :When attempting to sync spamd between 2 hosts via unicast, I see this :error when starting spamd: : :spamd: sync init: Device not configured :

spamd: sync init: Device not configured

2013-07-31 Thread Craig R. Skinner
When attempting to sync spamd between 2 hosts via unicast, I see this error when starting spamd: spamd: sync init: Device not configured Web searching with this phrase didn't yeild useful pointers. In /etc/rc.conf.local I have: spamd_flags="-y smtp.example.com -Y mx-backup.example.com" I'm not

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread hub
Martin Schröder wrote: > 2013/7/30 : > > than the Apple+Google co-owned Clang stuff. > > Source for that claim? All I can find is > > Copyright (c) 2007-2013 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. > http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project/cfe/trunk/LICENSE.TXT?revision=171342&view=markup > > Be

Re: Default software in the base

2013-07-31 Thread James Griffin
Tue 30.Jul'13 at 18:46:59 -0400, STeve Andre' > On 07/30/13 18:15, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:48:11PM +0400, h...@riseup.net wrote: > >>I realize that everything has its pros and cons (like URXVT is > >>GPL-licensed, st is pretty much hack

Re: nut-2.7.1 (Solved)

2013-07-31 Thread lilit-aibolit
On 07/30/2013 01:52 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2013-07-29, lilit-aibolit wrote: Using existing bestuferrups.8 manual page, since 'asciidoc' was not found. Using existing bestups.8 manual page, since 'asciidoc' was not found. Using existing bestfcom.8 manual page, since 'asciidoc' was not fo