Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread ropers
On 14 June 2016 at 00:53, frantisek holop  wrote:

> the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook
> with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it.
>

Thanks for the addition and dmesg. Do you know if all the Travelmate B115's
are fanless or only the M models, not MP or P? What about the B116's and
B117's? Actually, are all the Travelmate B's fanless?


> it suspends, resumes, most things work;
> the clickpad and the wifi being notable exceptions.
>

Does this mean that despite dmesg recognition, the pms0 device somehow does
not work at all (=need external mouse), or does this mean just
fancy-schmancy gesturing support won't work (limiting the pad to working
like a conventional trackpad)?
Is the apparent absence of separate trackpad buttons (as per pics I
googled) an issue? Can the pad's lower parts work like buttons, or is it
only tap-to-click (which I seriously hate)?

I see some models have a touchscreen. Does yours? Do all of them? (I'd
rather do without that.)

Is the glossy screen annoying? (I prefer matte.)

Thanks again.



Re: Started having bioctl encryption problems recently - lost data. Error within FAQ?

2016-06-13 Thread Gerald Hanuer
Hello misc@,

Phones suck.


# dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/rsd0c bs=1m

#__Zero out random garbage._###
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd0c bs=1m count=1

# fdisk -iy sd0
# disklabel -E sd0 (create an "a" partition, see above for more info)
# bioctl -c C -l sd0a softraid0
New passphrase:
Re-type passphrase:
softraid0: CRYPTO volume attached as sd1
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd1c bs=1m count=1
__Add a MBR__#
# fdisk -iy sd1

# disklabel -E sd1 (create an "i" partition, see above for more info)
# newfs sd1i
# mkdir -p /mnt/secretstuff
# mount /dev/sd1i /mnt/secretstuff
# mv planstotakeovertheworld.txt /mnt/secretstuff/
# umount /mnt/secretstuff
# bioctl -d sd1

Regards,

  Gerald Hanuer



Re: Started having bioctl encryption problems recently - lost data. Error within FAQ?

2016-06-13 Thread Gerald Hanuer
Hello misc@,

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:30 AM Theo Buehler

However, I don't quite understand your double zeroing of the disk.

> #__Zero out random garbage._###
> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd0c bs=1m count=1

[...]

> #__Zero out random garbage ( not the raw disk ).__#
> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd1c bs=1m count=1

The first one is an ok alternative to what's done in the FAQ, but I
don't understand your comment on not using the raw disk for the second
command.  Using the raw device as it is written *is* correct, see also
the example section in the bioctl(4) manual.


You are correct, this is not needed, ( Over zealous "pasto" )

This reads better.

# dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/rsd0c bs=1m

#__Zero out random garbage._###
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd0c bs=1m count=1

# fdisk -iy sd0
# disklabel -E sd0 (create an "a" partition, see above for more info)
# bioctl -c C -l sd0a softraid0
New passphrase:
Re-type passphrase:
softraid0: CRYPTO volume attached as sd1

__Add a MBR__#
# fdisk -iy sd1

# disklabel -E sd1 (create an "i" partition, see above for more info)
# newfs sd1i
# mkdir -p /mnt/secretstuff
# mount /dev/sd1i /mnt/secretstuff
# mv planstotakeovertheworld.txt /mnt/secretstuff/
# umount /mnt/secretstuff
# bioctl -d sd1

Regards,

  Gerald Hanuer



Re: Started having bioctl encryption problems recently - lost data. Error within FAQ?

2016-06-13 Thread Chris Cappuccio
obsd [d...@protonmail.com] wrote:
> 'Encrypting external disks'
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#softraidCrypto
> 
> Followed the FAQ instructions EXACTLY to encrypt an external drive, then 
> copied data to it and after restarting the computer again.. I cannot access 
> the drive, infact it doesn't look like anything is even on it. This has 
> happened whilst following this tutorial on two different systems, using two 
> different hard disks.. Are the FAQ instructions wrong? Thanks
> 
> $ fdisk wd1
> 0: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
> 1: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
> 2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
> 3: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
> 
> # disklabel wd1
> 16 partitions:
> # size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg]
> c: 234441648 0 unused

My guess is that you didn't run fdisk, THEN disklabel, THEN bioctl.
This stays true for any use of software, not just crypto.

If you don't run fdisk prior to disklabel,

a. The BIOS may not be able to boot from the device (if necessary)
b. Your disklabel will be overwritten by the filesystem itself if
it starts at block 0.
c. You must start the first partition past block 0, block 64
is standard for various reasons.

Chris



Re: Started having bioctl encryption problems recently - lost data. Error within FAQ?

2016-06-13 Thread Gerald Hanuer
Hello misc@,

The added or modified lines have comments.

# dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/rsd0c bs=1m

#__Zero out random garbage._###
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd0c bs=1m count=1

# fdisk -iy sd0
# disklabel -E sd0 (create an "a" partition, see above for more info)
# bioctl -c C -l sd0a softraid0
New passphrase:
Re-type passphrase:
softraid0: CRYPTO volume attached as sd1

#__Zero out random garbage ( not the raw disk ).__#
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd1c bs=1m count=1

#__Add a MBR__#
# fdisk -iy sd1

# disklabel -E sd1 (create an "i" partition, see above for more info)
# newfs sd1i
# mkdir -p /mnt/secretstuff
# mount /dev/sd1i /mnt/secretstuff
# mv planstotakeovertheworld.txt /mnt/secretstuff/
# umount /mnt/secretstuff
# bioctl -d sd1

This has worked for me.

Regards,

  Gerald Hanuer



Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread frantisek holop
the acer travelmate b115-m is an el cheapo netbook
with no moving parts if you stick an ssd in it.
the sound of silence is very relaxing.

it suspends, resumes, most things work;
the clickpad and the wifi being notable exceptions.
but there is no wifi card blacklist (eat shit lenovo)
so problem solved.

it's not a monster obviously but high end machines
do not come fanless anyway.

the plastic is very cheap, but the design is stylish
and it's much thinner than it looks on pictures.
as a bonus i could buy it without windows and
secureboot can be disabled.  as good as it gets in
notebook world for me...

dmesg:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=146185180505045&w=2

-f
-- 
equal bytes to women!



Started having bioctl encryption problems recently - lost data. Error within FAQ?

2016-06-13 Thread obsd
'Encrypting external disks'
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#softraidCrypto

Followed the FAQ instructions EXACTLY to encrypt an external drive, then copied 
data to it and after restarting the computer again.. I cannot access the drive, 
infact it doesn't look like anything is even on it. This has happened whilst 
following this tutorial on two different systems, using two different hard 
disks.. Are the FAQ instructions wrong? Thanks

# Find the drive out
$ dmesg | grep '^[sw]d'

# Check the available partition on it
$ fdisk wd1
Disk: wd1 geometry: 14593/255/63 [234441648 Sectors]
Offset: 0 Signature: 0x0
Starting Ending LBA Info:
#: id C H S - C H S [ start: size ]
---
0: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
1: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
3: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused

# disklabel wd1
# /dev/rwd1c:
type: ESDI
disk: ESDI/IDE disk
label: KINGSTON SV300S3
duid: 
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 14593
total sectors: 234441648
boundstart: 0
boundend: 234441648
drivedata: 0

16 partitions:
# size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg]
c: 234441648 0 unused
#

#



Re: generate xorg.conf

2016-06-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2016-06-13, Rudolf Sykora  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> please, how do one generate an xorg.conf file on openBSD?
>
> I thought running
> X -configure
> (or X :1 -configure, if X is running)
> would generate one, however, there seems to be no option -configure
> present. So how, then?
>
> (I want to read xorg.conf and then modify some parts to try to use wacom 
> intuos3
> tablet [pressure sensitivity].)
>
> Thanks
> Ruda
>
>

You don't need to include any of the other parts, just include the parts you
need for the wacom in the xorg.conf file.



Re: OpenBSD 5.9/amd64 (2-Jun-2016), httpd(40862): [syscall 5 "wpath"] error when attempting to start httpd with ssl

2016-06-13 Thread Hiltjo Posthuma
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 01:19:50PM -0500, Troy Frericks wrote:
> ...
> 
> I've spent hours googeling, and found only one mention that this may be a
> kernel bug.
> I've checked theOpenBSD 5.9 patch list, the OpenBSD 5.9 -current changes
> log.
> 

By the way, instead of googeling a nice way to see what is going on is to run:

ktrace httpd -d -v

then run

kdump -f ktrace.out

after it aborts to see what exactly triggered the abort.

Hope this helps,

-- 
Kind regards,
Hiltjo



Re: generate xorg.conf

2016-06-13 Thread Vijay Sankar
  Quoting Rudolf Sykora :

> Hello,
>
> please, how do one generate an xorg.conf file on openBSD?
>
> I thought running
> X -configure
> (or X :1 -configure, if X is running)
> would generate one, however, there seems to be no option -configure
> present. So how, then?
>
> (I want to read xorg.conf and then modify some parts to try to use wacom
> intuos3
> tablet [pressure sensitivity].)
>
> ThanksRuda

I remember doing this long time ago when there were three monitors on my
desk.

On my desktop, I had to do the following steps to create this file:

1) Edit /etc/sysctl.conf and add the line

machdep.allowaperture=1

2) Reboot

3) X -configure

Once I did that, there was a file called xorg.conf.new in the root
directory. There was also a log file /var/log/Xorg.1.log that may give you
more details.

Vijay
-- 
Vijay Sankar, M.Eng., P.Eng.
ForeTell Technologies Limited
vsan...@foretell.ca



Re: generate xorg.conf

2016-06-13 Thread ropers
On 13 June 2016 at 12:31, Jan Stary  wrote:

>
> > (I want to read xorg.conf and then modify some parts to try to use wacom
> intuos3
> > tablet [pressure sensitivity].)
>
> You mean, you have installed OpenBSD on this tablet?
>

The intuos 3 is a graphics tablet human interface device, not a tablet
computer.



Re: x clipboard that can copy images

2016-06-13 Thread Francois Pussault
not sur it can help
but non-revelant copies (used as snapshot of file currently modifyed by other
process) I generaly use a copy of last save state of the source file to a ram
disk
I open that copy in the destination software.

so it works just as a clipboard  (file is not saved on disks)

> 
> From: Rudolf Sykora 
> Sent: Mon Jun 13 16:10:38 CEST 2016
> To: 
> Subject: x clipboard that can copy images
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I need a program that would be able to "copy a .png file into
> the clipboard", so that other programs (xournal, gimp, ...)
> can paste the image.
>
> I used xsel and xclip before, but these only work with text.
> I tried to compile newer xclip, which can "copy images",
> so far without success.
> Apart from new xclip, bigger programs like copyq have
> the ability to cope with images, but that's too big for
> the task, I think.
>
> Do you have any advice? What do you use?
>
> Thanks
> Ruda
>


Cordialement
Francois Pussault
10 chemin de négo saoumos
apt 202 - bat 2
31300 Toulouse
+33 6 17 230 820   +33 5 34 365 269
fpussa...@contactoffice.fr



x clipboard that can copy images

2016-06-13 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello,

I need a program that would be able to "copy a .png file into
the clipboard", so that other programs (xournal, gimp, ...)
can paste the image.

I used xsel and xclip before, but these only work with text.
I tried to compile newer xclip, which can "copy images",
so far without success.
Apart from new xclip, bigger programs like copyq have
the ability to cope with images, but that's too big for
the task, I think.

Do you have any advice? What do you use?

Thanks
Ruda



Re: generate xorg.conf

2016-06-13 Thread Sean Howard
‎ 

Sent from my phone.
  Original Message  
From: Rudolf Sykora
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 04:44
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: generate xorg.conf

Hello,

please, how do one generate an xorg.conf file on openBSD?

I thought running
X -configure
(or X :1 -configure, if X is running)
would generate one, however, there seems to be no option -configure
present. So how, then?

(I want to read xorg.conf and then modify some parts to try to use wacom
intuos3
tablet [pressure sensitivity].)

Thanks
Ruda



Re: Can't change screen brightness Acer Aspire ES1-411

2016-06-13 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
Does this workaround work for you?

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=146520183827302&w=2
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=146523968007324&w=2

If it does then it's related to this bug:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=146451346724515


(I'm just an user, not a developer)



Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread lists
> :It is not a good idea to mix topics, stay focused and think before send.
> :
> :Attitude is formed based on intelligence of email postings.  We all know
> :highly educated people can disagree without negative feelings.  Grow up.
> :
> :I encourage you to keep posting until you meet the quality expectations.
> :
> 
> Wrant: Your actions are offensive to the community in general, and
> specifically to those you respond to.
> 
> Stop replying to mails on this list.

To this thread I agree not to reply any more unless provoked directly.
There is at least one future reader I have not managed to offend yet..



Re: pledge(2) API ideas for libraries

2016-06-13 Thread Ray Lai
pledge should be used to restrict a program to whatever it is necessary to do,
rather than everything the library can do. So if I use libimaginarydb to parse
a csv file I've already read into a memory buffer (nearly pledge("", NULL)),
but the library can read/write/create files, do remote db connections, and
fork shells, we don't want it to do all that (pledge("rpath wpath cpath dns
inet exec proc", NULL)).

> On Jun 13, 2016, at 12:56 PM, 
 wrote:
>
> I have thought of a way pledge(2) can be made a little more
> library-friendly.
>
> This is not a patch, but just a thought.
> There are 2 setups I have thought of:
>
> === 1. Variable arguments ===
>
> int pledge(const char *promises, const char *paths[])
> {
>return vpledge(1, promises, paths);
> }
>
> int vpledge(const size_t npledge, ...);
>
> -
>
> In a program, this may be something like this:
>
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
>
> int main(void) {
>if(vpledge(5, "stdio rpath wpath cpath", NULL,
>ultra_promises, ultra_pledgepaths,
>extra_promises, NULL, super_promises, NULL,
>mecha_promises, mecha_pledgepaths) == -1)
>errx("pledge");
>
>... [other code] ...
> };
>
>
> ---
>
> In vpledge(), "npledge" refers to the number of pledge-pairs, which
> consist of:
>
>const char *promises, const char *paths[]
>
> These have the same semantics as the original pledge().
>
> A library can export *_promises and *_pledgepaths symbols, pointing to
> static text. This allows the library to change without the program
> being affected because the new library changes call something outside
> the original pledge() of a program.
>
> = 2. Using a struct ==
>
> -
>
> struct pledge {
>char *promises;
>char *paths[];
> };
>
> -
>
> int pledge(const char *promises, const char *paths[])
> {
>struct pledge pl = {
>.promises, paths
>};
>
>return pledges(1, &pl);
> }
>
> int pledges(const size_t npledge, const struct pledge pledge_array[]);
>
> -
>
> In a program, this may be something like this:
>
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
>
> int main(void) {
>struct pledge pl[4];
>
>pl[0].promises = "stdio rpath wpath cpath";
>ultra_getpledge(&pl[1]);
>extra_getpledge(&pl[2]);
>super_getpledge(&pl[3]);
>mecha_getpledge(&pl[4]);
>
>if(pledges(5, pl) == -1)
>errx("pledge");
>
>... [other code] ...
>
>
> };
>
>
> ---
>
>
> A library can tell the application what pledges are in use as follows:
>
>
> static const char *pledge_promises = "stdio fattr sendfd recvfd"
>
> void ultra_getpledge(struct pledge *const pl)
> {
>pl->promises = pledge_promises;
>pl->paths = NULL;
> }
>
>
> ==
>
> I think that #1 has the advantage of it being easier to code so a
> program can ratchet down its abilities. #2 allows one to group the
> pledge arguments into a single struct.
>
> Thoughts?



Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2016 Jun 13 (Mon) at 05:25:17 +0300 (+0300), li...@wrant.com wrote:
:It is not a good idea to mix topics, stay focused and think before send.
:
:Attitude is formed based on intelligence of email postings.  We all know
:highly educated people can disagree without negative feelings.  Grow up.
:
:I encourage you to keep posting until you meet the quality expectations.
:

Wrant: Your actions are offensive to the community in general, and
specifically to those you respond to.

Stop replying to mails on this list.



Re: generate xorg.conf

2016-06-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Jun 13 10:33:24, rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote:
> please, how do one generate an xorg.conf file on openBSD?

If you need xorg.conf at all, it might be best
to read xorg.conf(5) and write your own by hand.

> (I want to read xorg.conf and then modify some parts to try to use wacom 
> intuos3
> tablet [pressure sensitivity].)

You mean, you have installed OpenBSD on this tablet?

Jan



Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread bytevolcano
I'll see what I can get for you, ropers. In the mean while, I can say
that most of the devices on my CF-30 and CF-31 function well, as
indicated by the dmesg. Then again, they only have basic options on
those laptops.

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:25:29 +0200
ropers  wrote:
> 
> Also, while dmesg requests aren't a bad idea (bytevolcano? pretty plz?
> joekiser? when available?), ...



Re: OpenBSD on SBC?

2016-06-13 Thread Francois Pussault
> 
> From: Roderick 
> Sent: Mon Jun 13 10:15:41 CEST 2016
> To: 
> Subject: Re: OpenBSD on SBC?
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2016, Dan Lüdtke wrote:
>
> > is there an OpenBSD-compatible SBC (Singe Board Computer) that comes close
to
> > raspberryPi size-wise?
>
> The interesting question is: OpenBSD on modern SoC (System on a Chip).
>
> OpenBSD seems to work fine on Geode LX800 (I run it on Siemens Futro
> A220 thin client).
>
> But now we have whole computers on a stick (Intel, Lenovo).
>
> I think, the future is for "consumers" the tablet computer, for
> business powerfull servers and thin clients.
>
> OpenBSD seems to be more an operating system for servers than for
> embedded systems ...
>
> Rodrigo.
>



Hello,

Of course it is better featured for servers and stations, but it should work
fine on some SBC or some other small or specific hardwares like beaglbones
etc...



Cordialement
Francois Pussault
10 chemin de négo saoumos
apt 202 - bat 2
31300 Toulouse
+33 6 17 230 820   +33 5 34 365 269
fpussa...@contactoffice.fr



Re: Is there such a thing as a fanless OpenBSD-capable laptop?

2016-06-13 Thread lists
> On 13 June 2016 at 05:29,  wrote:
> > ignore this entire mediocre thread, search the archive instead.

Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:25:29 +0200 ropers 
> I did.

This is a lie.  You created the thread on purpose with wrong definitions.
This is towards future readers, based on the fact that the value is zero.

> The real reason why you responded to me as you did was because I had
> thanked a person you had insulted earlier.

The low rating of the thread is because you did not review the archives,
did not do your home work before posting & the after work was marketing.

You thanked people for helping you fulfil your job of spamming the list.



Re: OpenBSD on SBC?

2016-06-13 Thread Roderick
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016, Dan Lüdtke wrote:

> is there an OpenBSD-compatible SBC (Singe Board Computer) that comes close to
> raspberryPi size-wise?

The interesting question is: OpenBSD on modern SoC (System on a Chip).

OpenBSD seems to work fine on Geode LX800 (I run it on Siemens Futro
A220 thin client).

But now we have whole computers on a stick (Intel, Lenovo).

I think, the future is for "consumers" the tablet computer, for
business powerfull servers and thin clients.

OpenBSD seems to be more an operating system for servers than for
embedded systems ...

Rodrigo.



generate xorg.conf

2016-06-13 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello,

please, how do one generate an xorg.conf file on openBSD?

I thought running
X -configure
(or X :1 -configure, if X is running)
would generate one, however, there seems to be no option -configure
present. So how, then?

(I want to read xorg.conf and then modify some parts to try to use wacom intuos3
tablet [pressure sensitivity].)

Thanks
Ruda



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Re: Random delay on incoming SMTP connection to OpenSMTPD

2016-06-13 Thread Marc Peters
Am 06/11/16 um 10:47 schrieb ML mail:
> This VM has 2 GB of RAM and 2 vCPUs and does only serve as a mail gateway,
> nothing else really. Does SpamAssassin really need so much resources?

Of course, it perl ;).

You could use something like amavis, which does additionally queueing
and invoking spamassassin or use something less resources consuming and
fast like rspamd, which does the job in C. A port for rspamd is there,
but not for rmilter.