Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Davor Balder wrote: > xfce is available and you should be able to use mac-like shortcuts there. I > think this relates to your chaoice of window manager/desktop environment. We have choices! Using xfce already, but Apple-like shortcuts did not work so far. > I'

Re: Boot issue 6.1

2017-06-11 Thread Davor Balder
Hello Martin, It may be worth upgrading from USB just in case... Cheers D On 06/12/17 14:43, Martin Oppegaard wrote: Hello, After updating to 6.1 my computer will no longer boot; it stops on "Loading.". Redoing installboot from the installation CD did not help. Do you have any sugges

Re: re0 and re1 watchdog timeouts, and system freeze

2017-06-11 Thread David Gwynne
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 07:19:34PM +0200, Bj??rn Ketelaars wrote: > On Fri 09/06/2017 12:07, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > On 08/06/17(Thu) 20:38, Bj??rn Ketelaars wrote: > > > On Thu 08/06/2017 16:55, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > > > On 07/06/17(Wed) 09:43, Bj??rn Ketelaars wrote: > > > > > On Sat 03/0

Boot issue 6.1

2017-06-11 Thread Martin Oppegaard
Hello, After updating to 6.1 my computer will no longer boot; it stops on "Loading.". Redoing installboot from the installation CD did not help. Do you have any suggestions? Here is an old dmesg of mine: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=146436543130287&w=2 Regards, Martin Oppegaard

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread Davor Balder
On 06/12/17 10:54, Donald Allen wrote: On 11 June 2017 at 19:16, Davor Balder wrote: On 06/12/17 06:06, Rupert Gallagher wrote: I spent yesterday and today installing 6.1 from scratch on a Dell Optiplex gx620. The machine has a pentium 4 @3.0GHz with 4GB non ECC RAM, returning a passmark of

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread Donald Allen
On 11 June 2017 at 19:16, Davor Balder wrote: > > > On 06/12/17 06:06, Rupert Gallagher wrote: >> >> I spent yesterday and today installing 6.1 from scratch on a Dell Optiplex >> gx620. The machine has a pentium 4 @3.0GHz with 4GB non ECC RAM, returning a >> passmark of 354*. The aim is to replace

ocsp response not current

2017-06-11 Thread jungle boogie
Hi All, I'm attempting to fetch the latest bsd.rd snapshot, but it's failing because of the ocsp response. $ ftp https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/bsd.rd Trying 129.128.5.191... Requesting https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/bsd.rd ftp: SSL write error: ocsp v

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread Davor Balder
On 06/12/17 06:06, Rupert Gallagher wrote: I spent yesterday and today installing 6.1 from scratch on a Dell Optiplex gx620. The machine has a pentium 4 @3.0GHz with 4GB non ECC RAM, returning a passmark of 354*. The aim is to replace the accountant's windows 10 pro tomorrow morning, moving

Re: EBNH's Artwork

2017-06-11 Thread Mihai Popescu
> Just to share artworks of my alter-ego EsteBaN Hache: The Madagascar end of the movie penguin's quote: "It sucks!".

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I spent yesterday and today installing 6.1 from scratch on a Dell Optiplex gx620. The machine has a pentium 4 @3.0GHz with 4GB non ECC RAM, returning a passmark of 354*. The aim is to replace the accountant's windows 10 pro tomorrow morning, moving the disk into his more recent Dell. In summary,

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Asbel Kiprop
> The port should be fixed, so that it internally use arc4random. That is what for i came here. think i need to write some mail to package developer... 2017-06-11 21:37 GMT+03:00 Theo de Raadt : > > Asbel Kiprop wrote on Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:24:23PM +0300: > > > > > cat: /var/www/dev/urandom:

OpenBSD 6.1 is now supported on Microsoft Azure

2017-06-11 Thread Adam Thompson
Maybe I missed the email here, but in case it actually doesn't exist: OpenBSD 6.1 is now supported on Microsoft Azure courtesy of reyk@ and the team over at Esdenera® Networks, with assistance from Microsoft. At least that's what I got out of the BSDCan announcement. I'll let Reyk blow his o

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread tomr
On 06/11/17 11:53, lvdd wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:42:15 -0600 > "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > >>> is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? >> >> It is probably rude to call steps-being-taken-toward-progress "messing" >> >> > > I am sorry - this wasn't meant to be as insult

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Asbel Kiprop wrote on Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:24:23PM +0300: > > > cat: /var/www/dev/urandom: Device not configured > > By default, /var is mounted nodev. See mount(8), fstab(5). Providing a workaround that reduces security is a poor answer. Perhaps the drive to make-it-work inevitably overri

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Asbel Kiprop
Ooops, really, thanks So for now it really the only solution, create dev in chroot and remove nodev flag from mounting options of /var/ directory? Hmmm 2017-06-11 21:33 GMT+03:00 Ingo Schwarze : > Hi Asbel, > > Asbel Kiprop wrote on Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:24:23PM +0300: > > > cat: /var/www/dev/

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Asbel, Asbel Kiprop wrote on Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:24:23PM +0300: > cat: /var/www/dev/urandom: Device not configured By default, /var is mounted nodev. See mount(8), fstab(5). Yours, Ingo

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Daniel Jakots
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 21:24:23 +0300, Asbel Kiprop wrote: > Created /dev/urandom in chroot. btw > root :: /var/www : ls -la /var/www/dev/ > > > > total 16 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel512 Jun 11 21:01 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 16 root daemon 512 Jun 11 21:01 ../ > crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Asbel Kiprop
Created /dev/urandom in chroot. btw root :: /var/www : ls -la /var/www/dev/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel512 Jun 11 21:01 ./ drwxr-xr-x 16 root daemon 512 Jun 11 21:01 ../ crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel45, 3 Jun 11 21:01 arandom crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel45, 0 Jun 1

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Asbel Kiprop
I'll try it, but as far as i remember years ago in misc was the discussion about urandom use in OpenBSD applications and advice was to correct the applications so it wasnt depended on urandom. And as i use Doku package from openbsd it looks kinda contradictory - chroot by default and urandom depend

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Daniel Gillen
On 11.06.2017 19:43, Asbel Kiprop wrote: > Hello > After todays update my Dokuwiki just throw 500 error "There is no suitable > CSPRNG installed on your system". Googled a bit and found out it because i > have no /dev/urandom in my basedir, > And this kinda obvious cuz i have httpd chrooted by defa

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Asbel Kiprop
Oh, forgot, OpenBSD -current, php56 + php56-fpm. 2017-06-11 20:43 GMT+03:00 Asbel Kiprop : > Hello > After todays update my Dokuwiki just throw 500 error "There is no suitable > CSPRNG installed on your system". Googled a bit and found out it because i > have no /dev/urandom in my basedir, > And

dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Asbel Kiprop
Hello After todays update my Dokuwiki just throw 500 error "There is no suitable CSPRNG installed on your system". Googled a bit and found out it because i have no /dev/urandom in my basedir, And this kinda obvious cuz i have httpd chrooted by default Doku version dokuwiki-2017.02.19b installed fr

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread Mihai Popescu
> FWIW, that's not the name he's been using Is that '55' from 'SOUL_OF_ROOT 55' a 'SS' in fact?

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread Sebastien Marie
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 06:48:07PM +0200, Sebastien Marie wrote: > > Please at least post a dmesg sorry, I just saw you posted it in your first message. -- Sebastien Marie

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread Sebastien Marie
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 06:08:11PM +0200, lvdd wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:56:07 -0600 > "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > > > > > For about a week, snapshots have contained a prototype of the new > > inteldrm codebase. Thereby allowing people to report issues. > > Thank you. That was the answer to

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2017, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:42:15 -0600 > > "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > > > > > > is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? > > > > > > It is probably rude to call steps-being-taken-toward-progress "messing" > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry -

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread lvdd
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:56:07 -0600 "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > > For about a week, snapshots have contained a prototype of the new > inteldrm codebase. Thereby allowing people to report issues. Thank you. That was the answer to my question. And it was exactly that - just a question. > > But say

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:42:15 -0600 > "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > > > > is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? > > > > It is probably rude to call steps-being-taken-toward-progress "messing" > > > > > > I am sorry - this wasn't meant to be as insult to anyone. As far as I

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread lvdd
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:42:15 -0600 "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > > is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? > > It is probably rude to call steps-being-taken-toward-progress "messing" > > I am sorry - this wasn't meant to be as insult to anyone. As far as I know 'messing' is us

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread Alexander Hall
>With a name like SOUL_OF_ROOT_CANAL I wonder what he is trying to FWIW, that's not the name he's been using. So far he hasn't proven to be anything but an ass though. Cheers, Alexander

Re: blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
> is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? It is probably rude to call steps-being-taken-toward-progress "messing"

blank screen

2017-06-11 Thread lvdd
Hi, is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? I installed today's snapshot (#116) and my system refuses to show me a picture as soon as "inteldrm0" is initialized. Up to that point I can see all messages on the console but after that the screen stays blank because the monitor go

inet6 packet filter question: link local address vs antispoof

2017-06-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, pf.conf on my gateway (6.1) says bash-4.4# pfctl -sr | egrep -i icmp\|block block return log all : : pass quick inet proto icmp all keep state (if-bound) pass quick inet6 proto ipv6-icmp all keep state (if-bound) Problem is, a ping6 to the gateway's link local address is not answered.

Re: inet6 packet filter question: link local address vs antispoof

2017-06-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
PS #1: Outgoing traffic to a link-local address initiated by the gateway is not corrupted. PS #2: It seems that OpenBSD 6.0 doesn't show this problem. Regards Harri

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread flipchan
Yes just download the desktop manager u want with pkg_add On June 9, 2017 9:39:30 PM GMT+02:00, SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 wrote: >Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system? -- Take Care Sincerely flipchan layerprox dev

Re: Current FreeBSD looking to switch to OpenBSD

2017-06-11 Thread Marko Cupać
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:07:59 -0700 Kurt H Maier wrote: > I don't know. Some people just like talking about their computers to > strangers, I guess. > 4-way native uefi boot of Windows, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and Linux, with shared FAT32 partition: pacija@efreet-freebsd:~ % sudo gpart show ada0 =>

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-11 Thread bytevolcano
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 02:32:10 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: ... > Hi Nicolas, > > Soul of root canal is a half retarded troll, totally lacking any > character. I can not believe you're still falling for their simply > elemental tactics.. > > There is one absolutely zero diff between my init reply a

Re: Current FreeBSD looking to switch to OpenBSD

2017-06-11 Thread Ax0n
On dual-booting: I have set up Windows/OpenBSD dual-boot quite a few times. Windows 7 and Windows 10 instructions are all about the same, and the information in the FAQ on multi-booting has enough info to get you started. https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting First, always have good