Re: OpenBSD funding status

2014-01-19 Thread Desktop User OpenBSD
Hi,








*1) Thehttps://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
https://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.htmlis redirecting to
http://www.obtuse.com/ http://www.obtuse.com/why? HTTPS should work
properly or it shouldn't be there.Word.Rather than contributing just some
outdated sang, you could have donesomething useful, like helping to
troubleshoot why the redirect was
happening.*

umm, the user gets a page where it can click to reach obtuse.com

Word. - ? let me get access to the server running
openbsdfoundation.orgvia SSH and I will do it:
- generate a new SSL cert (the current one expired at 2009) and use
https://www.startssl.com/ to get it working without wrong SSL warning
(freely) in the webbrowsers
- configure apache

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*3) Are there any subscriptions too or there are only one-time donations?I
would do a subscription if it were possible, but the amount has to be
entirely of my own choosing. Paypal certainly does offer recurring
payments, so there is no reason not to offer them to people willing to
support the project.*
with this, I meant the status of it, it's great to have subscribtion too,
we all know that, but what is the ratio between them? just a little info
about the currect status, is it hopeless or already passed the $2?

update: whops, I didn't read the previous mails, Theo already said this: I
am not going to disclose the actual numbers here. - well, hokay.. I belive
in causality (cause-effect) so there is a reason why he isn't doing that.

So let's get some info:

Suppose if a donator is on the donations page one time, it will stay there
(? I am wrong or not?):

The firs mail about funding came at 2013-12-17 18:20:48 -
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=138730448307723

The second mail came at 2013-12-21 0:08:26 -
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=138758456722860w=2

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/www/donations.html
--
current: Sat Jan 18 16:37:37 2014 UTC
old, before the mails: Thu Dec 12 18:03:28 2013 UTC

[user@localhost ~] grep '^/lili' old-Donations\ to\ OpenBSD.html 
old.txt
[user@localhost ~] grep '^/lili' current-Donations\ to\ OpenBSD.html 
current.txt
[user@localhost ~] wc -l old.txt
4779 old.txt
[user@localhost ~] wc -l current.txt
4773 current.txt
[user@localhost ~]

Hopefully there weren't just 6 people who donated, these are only the
people who wanted their names on the donations.html (?)

Just on ycombinator ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7069889 ) there
were 401 comments and 798 ups and 17 donated:

[user@localhost ~] lynx -source
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7069889| grep -i donated | wc -l
17
[user@localhost ~]

on nixcraft facebook page: ( https://www.facebook.com/nixcraft ) there were
209 likes and 307 shares, 1 person said in the comments donated

so we have (calculating with ex.: 20 CAD/person ) 6+17+1 = 24*20= 480 CAD
from the 2 ? - this is only public and not trusty data. :)




On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Christopher Ahrens n...@leviacomm.netwrote:

 MJ wrote:

 On 18 Jan 2014, at 20.01, Desktop User OpenBSD 
 openbsd.desktop.u...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello,

 I would love to subscribe to the monthly donation on:

 http://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html

 but I need to ask, say a few things before:

 1) The
 https://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
 is redirecting to http://www.obtuse.com/
 why? HTTPS should work properly or it shouldn't be there.


 Word.


 Rather than contributing just some outdated sang, you could have done
 something useful, like helping to troubleshoot why the redirect was
 happening.

 Speaking of, both sites reside on the same IP, so its probably that the
 browser being used or a proxy in between doesn't play nicely with
 virtual hosts and tries to connect by raw IP and that obtuse.com comes
 first in httpd.conf for that IP address.


  2) What is the status of the funding? The CAD$(?) 20,000?


  3) Are there any subscriptions too or there are only one-time donations?


 I would do a subscription if it were possible, but the amount has to be
 entirely of my own choosing. Paypal certainly does offer recurring
 payments, so there is no reason not to offer them to people willing
 to support the project.


 There *is* the possibility of recurring donations (either the first
 result of doing an internet search for 'OpenBSD recurring donations' or
 just following the link in the email you replied to, just after the
 sender asks about why it wasn't working for them.


  4) Could Theo or anyone from the OpenBSD team contact any vendors, or has
 the project any bigger subscription donator already?


 Again, and I really need to highlight this: when the project
 comes to the position that it is asking for money or die, then
 the project is also in a requirement to provide financial
 transparency.


 Why do we need transparency?  Is that so you can nit-pick every expense

OpenBSD funding status

2014-01-18 Thread Desktop User OpenBSD
Hello,

I would love to subscribe to the monthly donation on:

http://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html

but I need to ask, say a few things before:

1) The
https://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
is redirecting to http://www.obtuse.com/
why? HTTPS should work properly or it shouldn't be there.

2) What is the status of the funding? The CAD$(?) 20,000?

3) Are there any subscriptions too or there are only one-time donations?

4) Could Theo or anyone from the OpenBSD team contact any vendors, or has
the project any bigger subscription donator already?

5) If something would happen to Theo (which __I don't want or wish__), who
would be the project leader? Son or daughter? Or any lead developers? Are
there any plans for this?
In the book: Absolute OpenBSD (2nd) which came out at April of 2013 says
only one sentence about this:
Theo takes whatever actions necessary to keep the OpenBSD Project running
smoothly. If something should ever happen to Theo, the project does have
plans for replacing him.
So is this true? (just asking, you understand: I know this is not a one man
project, but are there any people around taking the responsibility to say
they can be the project leader of the worlds most secure OS?)

6) off: If OpenSSH is deployed widely in the world, wouldn't it be nice
to put the donation URL in it? (man page or after install)

@Theo: Thanks for __everything__  keep up the good work!
@Anyone who donated: Thanks for every $!

Have a nice day!