.00 degC
hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=58.00 degC
hw.sensors.aps0.temp0=74.00 degC
hw.sensors.aps0.temp1=74.00 degC
temp3 on my Thinkpad W500 is the cpu temp. You can make a script
to watch for that and do something if it gets too high. This thinkpad
automatically shuts down past 92C, annoying but it will save the
hardware.
--STeve Andre'
for, when testing this? Anything that might push the
envelope some?
Thanks!
--STeve Andre'
on OpenBSD. I got them to test because they were flaky on
Windows, too. I know there are incompatible sticks out there, but I've
crashed into just plain badly made hardware, too.
--STeve Andre'
On Friday 09 April 2010 03:37:17 Josh Rickmar wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 08:53:12PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:
> > Willing to be a test case for other ideas!
>
> Same here, I have a T500 and just upgraded to the latest -current to
> test out the new suspen
On Thursday 08 April 2010 16:23:37 Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2010-04-08, STeve Andre' wrote:
> > ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801I AHCI" rev 0x03: apic 1 int
> > 16 (irq 11), AHCI 1.2
>
> at this stage you might want to change your sata chip over
On Thursday 08 April 2010 13:10:02 Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote:
> STeve Andre' wrote:
> > Excellent idea. It doesn't do anything, however, so I came back
> > on to write this.
> >
> > --STeve Andre'
>
> Did you try just pressing a holding Fn for a
them with dd.
(I love that the ports collection is big enough that I can't remember
what everything is, anymore)
tnx, STeve Andre'
epend on?
After having done testing of software/hardware in the pre-open
source world, I've come to the conclusion that its cutting corners to
make assumptions, and no matter how much of a pain in the ass it
is, testing everything, at least sometimes, is the right thing to do.
--STeve Andre'
r
data over. Testing, proper testing should take longer than everything
I mentioned.
The changes to modern op systems between releases needs to be
understood. Look at http://openbsd.org/plus.html and you will see nearly
2400 changes between 4.3 and 4.7, and those are ones that were
logged.
Don't be afraid of change.
--STeve Andre'
t. Remember that 640G
disks are $100 at newegg right now. SSD disks look like sata beasts,
and just work, at least they did for me. But they're going to win
out soon enough.
--STeve Andre' (OpenBSD thinkpad user since 2001)
>
> > >
> > >!DSPAM:4b9d208373307231010022!
> >
> > How can you tell that without relying on the sensors in the motherboard?
>
> It's unfortunate that we all had to live through the Great Thermometer
> Genocide of '97, or else there'd be a simple answer to your problem.
I'd get a temperature probe and figure out how to stick it on the cpu.
--STeve Andre'
so
> should I post this question in a different list?
>
> -Ben
I haven't been following this till now, but its rare for i386 stuff not to
work right. I'm going to be that you have a hardware issue. Have you
started taking things out, shifting/removing memory, and stuff like
that? Sometimes its the really weird things...
--STeve Andre'
are pre-compiled and available?
--STeve Andre'
r -current, the docs are there to do so.
What you need to be able to do is be able to jump back to a previous
system if the new -current system does something bad. Now, this
is just as true if you only jump from -stable to -stable system, but I
have encountered a huge number of people who don't get the idea
that an upgrade always has the possibility of messing up, and for
a production system its a grand idea to be able to get back up,
quickly.
--STeve Andre'
[snip]
ally know. At least you now have a new target, for
> > practice with. Sabot rounds are great for little disks...
>
> Where's Nick and his nail gun when we need him?
>
> I got to work with some people from the "disk industry" and know how
> secretive they must be about how stuff actually works due to NDA's. I'd
> have better odds as a snowball in hell than getting the needed test
> equipment and docs from the vendor.
Very likely true, which I why I say that you have an interesting target!
--STeve Andre'
icense. The number of times I've explained
(or tried to) the BSD license vs. GPL numbers in the dozens now.
People here are far too quick to label questions like this as trolling. Sure,
there are people who like to stir the pot up, but there are a lot more
clueless people out there--clueless meani
;t know much about it, but it isn't OpenBSD.
You don't need an installer written. The one that comes with OpenBSD is
extremely easy to use. It's a myth that graphical programs are better than
text based. Intelligent design beats pretty fluffy pictures any day.
--STeve Andre'
hould be tunable, aren't.
>
> > time disknice md5 -t
I'm definitely going to play with this.
To retard a process might be a better word, but might raise objections,
so arrest, bridle or moderate might be better?
--STeve Andre'
built, and the parts of 'user land', ie not the kernel.
Take what are small steps at first to learn the basics.
--STeve Andre'
There seems to be enough commentary at
the wordpress site.
--STeve Andre'
4.6 i386 CD, and a
> snapshot dated 20 Jan from a USB memory stick both resulted in the
> fatal page fault (6).
>
> Thanks
>
> Fred
Have you tried disabling acpi? Man config(8) for more info.
--STeve Andre'
ng
> which ones the devs use
My W500 works with the exception of the winmodem (cough) and possibly
the camera and finger print reader, though someone said they had the
reader working, and camera support has gotten far better. I don't have
either on my W500 so I can't test that. I'm really happy with mine.
--STeve Andre'
odes, but I still haven't
encountered that yet in my (mis)adventures.
--STeve Andre'
On Monday 28 December 2009 04:27:40 Johan M:son Lindman wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 December 2009 04:57:55 STeve Andre' wrote:
> > On Monday 21 December 2009 22:48:45 James Hozier wrote:
> > > This will be my first purchase that is focused primarily on having only
> > >
ly.
Looking at the Lenovo site I see a T500 with a 15" screen with *led* back
light, 160G disk 2.4G core two something, intel wifi and intel graphics
for $849. I don't know the status of the Intel graphics card, but you
could get that, except it has a 1 year warranty. There are discounts
if y
; http://i.imgur.com/ggkB5.png
>
> regards,
> --ropers
Wow--a book of wikipedia reprints. I'd say that there is still
some useful possiblity for it, but the price tag is nuts.
Remember, not all books on a subject are useful. Sounds like
the OpenSBD library has its first weak book, but thats ok--it
might prod others into creating something better.
--STeve Andre'
On Friday 11 December 2009 19:11:18 anonymous wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 06:24:24PM -0500, STeve Andre' wrote:
> >I am wondering if there is a port or otherwise available
> > code which is good at comparing large numbers of files in
> > an arbitrary number of
On Friday 11 December 2009 20:31:54 Alexander Bochmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ...on Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 06:52:09PM -0500, STeve Andre' wrote:
>
> > > Compare how?
> > I should have been more clear I suppose. I'd like to know
> > the files that are iden
On Friday 11 December 2009 18:36:33 Noah Pugsley wrote:
> STeve Andre' wrote:
> >I am wondering if there is a port or otherwise available
> > code which is good at comparing large numbers of files in
> > an arbitrary number of directories? I always try avoid
oss N directories. Most. Its the 'across dirs' part
that involves the effort, hence my avoidance of thinking
on it if I can help it. ;-)
Thanks, STeve Andre'
On Saturday 05 December 2009 15:07:43 rhubbell wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:39:39 -0500
> STeve Andre' wrote:
> >
> > You are free of course to make mods, but please understand that you
> > are on your own for them. I suppose it could also be said that if
&
uch a modification. I don't think most
of the people reading this are ipv6 fans, either.
--STeve Andre'
Is it reasonable to start playing with suspend/resume yet,
or are things developing enough that comments will only be
annoying?
Reading the acpi specs is an exercise in... well, something.
--STeve Andre'
On Sunday 22 November 2009 15:04:42 Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote:
> Does anybody use it happily?
>
No. It's hideous. It crashes, hoggs the CPU and in general
is a pain in the ass to use. I've used it for you tube, but
yt in the ports tree is far better. For general Flash stuff
you are out of luck.
e. For me, the
power supply is the first thing I look at. If it goes ferral--and
I've seen that--they can destroy everthing. Antec rules.
--STeve Andre'
On Monday 09 November 2009 14:30:56 Brynet wrote:
> STeve Andre wrote:
> >For simple large files, is there a faster way to move them rather
> > than using mv? I have a lot of large files (>10G) that need to be
> > rearranged on which disk they reside on.
>
> Hi
For simple large files, is there a faster way to move them rather
than using mv? I have a lot of large files (>10G) that need to be
rearranged on which disk they reside on.
Thanks, STeve Andre'
al? It's a fresh install of openbsd 4.6 and I let it set up
> the
> > partitions automatically.
>
> No, that's not normal. You put a big file in /dev. You should find
> it and move it someplace more appropriate.
Do a ls -lat to see the latest files created in /dev. I make this
mistake multiple times.
--STeve Andre'
Thanks a lot
I know you are curious Tomas, but I don't think it would be good
policy for the OpenBSD folks to say why people donate. Actually,
they don't know why, in the majority of cases. Just appreciate
that they did.
--STeve Andre'
uture, I'm fairly sure but I think they need to mature
as well as get bigger.
Lastly, saying where the install hangs would really help. And of
course how big is it and who made it?
--STeve Andre'
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 15:47:37 Josh Grosse wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:25:51 -0400, STeve Andre' wrote
>
> > ...The real danger today are
> > sectors that got mapped out which are bad, but could contain
> > interesting or embaressing data; 512 bytes could h
by taking it apart
(you can recycle the aluminium) and do something creative with the
platters. I think Theo once took a blowtorch to some? That might
provide entertainmant.
--STeve Andre'
be in comparison to that.
Lastly if you do build a little shrip frankensystem, asking for
help here isn't going to get a lot of sympathy. You'll be on
your own.
--STeve Andre'
Cancel that -- I forgot the change to config. Excess noise, sorry...
--STeve Andre'
on't think I'm missing anything, or there
has been corruption somewhere.
?
--STeve Andre'
Amazing, the growth that has occurred during these years.
I encourage folks to send a little something in via paypal,
if you can, in honor of this event.
Here's to OpenBSD!
--STeve Andre'
00s/T500s I've bought I haven't had time to test with OpenBSD
but see Neal's mail on that. Like Neal, I'd recommend the machine,
or the W500 if you can afford it. Note that the W700s are all Nvidia
so stay away from them.
--STeve Andre'
On Monday 14 September 2009 14:17:35 you wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:40:36PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:
> > Certainly there are SSDs that work just fine, but from the experiences of
> > friends, I'd say they're at least 3 times more flaky than disks are.
laky than disks are. Intel
had a recall on some earlier this summer, too.
Disks are cheap, really cheap right now...
--STeve Andre'
> dismissed by folks (many of whom) have never even tried it!
Attempting to prove the worth of OpenBSD to folks who are not able to
figure things out for themsevles is much like trying to teach butterflies
Calculus.
It doesn't work and wastes your time.
--STeve Andre'
gt;
> Thanks for your help.
No. Swap is not a filesystem that you can look at. Only the kernel knows
what is there.
--STeve Andre'
On Monday 24 August 2009 19:58:40 Mr Man wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a presentation coming up, and I would like to use my OpenBSD laptop
> for it. What is the recommended application for a slides driven
> presentation?
>
> Thanks
Magicpoint, in packages.
--STeve Andre'
as well...
>
> I don't mind. There's a plethora of free email accounts out there.
Which cowards use.
--STeve Andre'
u'll be OK. But I haven't read your dmesg data
and hopefully do you not have a different species of w500.
-STeve Andre'
4 page to
look at.
It can be stressful trying to figure this out, but I did it last November
and am happy with what I got. If you can post a dmesg from a -current
CD which always has the best hardware support.
--STeve Andre'
D in the worst possible way.
My advice to you would be to stay silent, and READ the OpenBSD site,
the FAQ, and google for other OpenBSD sites and read those, as well.
OpenBSD holds together very very well. It is the only operating system
that I trust enough to be able to use the in-development version for a
production system (with testing, of course). But the user base doesn't
take whining very well. If you read up on this os, say spending 20 hours
actually reading about it, you'll find it to be a great resource. This is my
last comment on this.
--STeve Andre'
y we haven't heard from Grumpy about this...
--STeve Andre'
help very much if you would state where you got the
image from, and also try making another copy of it and trying
that. What happens when you try booting?
You can always create a boot floppy and do an ftp install if you
are having CD problems.
--STeve Andre'
Has anyone worked on a port of GAMBAS? It's a BASIC like language
which some amateur radio programs I'd like to port over use,
so if anyone has done anything I'd appreciate hearing.
Thanks!
--STeve Andre'
wb8wf en82
t
went from soft errors to unbootable in half a day. Given that
your information is likely lots more valuable than a new disk,
replacing it soon is the best strategy.
--STeve Andre'
On Sunday 05 July 2009 21:47:09 Chris Kuethe wrote:
> assuming you didn't do anything like formatting the disk, you can
> generally put the partition table and disk label back with no ill
> effect.
All is well, though I am still confused as to what happened.
Thanks.
--STeve Andre'
s to run fdisk again and give it the entire disk
and then disklabel it with the one 'a' partition. Assuming that
I didn't write to the disk (I don't think I did), this should
work... Right?
Thanks,
--STeve Andre'
(red faced at the moment)
[relevant data]
paladin ~ fdi
is T-Mobile account and data plan, *no one* at
T-Mobile could help a non-Windows non-Mac user. There was simply no
one there who could help. It took a lot of reading manuals for me to
build the ppp.conf file that worked. Perhaps other carriers are less
useless.
--STeve Andre'
This has worked for years.
What happens is that upon firing ppp up manually
I get the message "Working in interactive mode" which
I have never gotten before. So far I haven't been able
to do anything with it other than a ^C. I tried an
identical phone with my SIM; same results.
ould worry about which system is best
for YOU, not how fast it is. Playing the speed game is a never ending.
--STeve Andre'
to the web, but grew to the point
where Brian "quit his day job" and made the site his full-time occupation in
January of 2003.
So perhaps they're trying to be the Onion of the tech world?
--STeve Andre'
On Sunday 07 June 2009 05:23:27 Paul Irofti wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 01:02:57AM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:
> >I recently tested a Neutrino netbook and sent the dmesg data in.
> > I had to boot with -c and disable acpi in order to do that. It now
> > occ
stuff like this? I can't find anything
about this.
--STeve Andre'
t once again.
This IS open source, isn't it--if you want to make/keep different commands,
you can. You are on your own, but wake(1) is hardly a monster.
So while I'd like to see it in the official distribution, the option is there
to keep it in *your* distribution.
--STeve Andre'
On Tuesday 02 June 2009 19:14:12 Marco Peereboom wrote:
> Are you guys still all excited about the stinkstation?
I haven't tried putting a spare disk in the s10 someone has at
work and put OpenBSD on it, but I can say that its built a LOT
better than many of the netbooks I've seen.
--STeve Andre'
x27;t learned whats going on under the hood.
Not really.
--STeve Andre'
next release.
Also, it would be good to post the contents of /var/run/dmesg.boot, to
see what the kernel thinks of the hardware. Thats a start.
--STeve Andre'
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 12:54:08 Bob Beck wrote:
> * Chris Harries [2009-05-26 10:48]:
> > it sure beats everyone moaning at me as they cannot read e-mails clearly
> > marked IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E-MAIL WONT WORK, then moaning when
> > their email doesn't work
>
> IMPORTANT, DO THIS OR YOUR E
build a machine that is unlikely to be
> supported.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
You want to look at the i386 supported hardware list, which is at
http://openbsd.org/i386.html.
There are several nvidia chips that are supported--its the video that you
really want to stay away from.
Hopefully you'll get feedback about the specifics of those two boards.
--STeve Andre'
e answer is
3G for i386. I think that amd64 is 4G.
--STeve Andre'
d have used the raw device was
quite correct; that was a tyop so it should have said
dd if=/dev/rsd1c of=/dev/null bs=64k
>
> >Me, if I want to rely on a disk drive, I will run badblocks on it.
>
> Sounds like the best idea - do you run it from a Linux CD, or ??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee
--STeve Andre'
On Monday 04 May 2009 18:29:26 L. V. Lammert wrote:
> At 06:06 PM 5/4/2009 -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:
> >The best way is to get a new disk. I'm serious. Disks are cheap enough,
> > and the value of whats on them is high enough that if you think its
> > going, ge
alue of whats on them is high enough that if you think its going, get a
new one. Even if this is a hobby system, I'd do that.
There is disk testing software from the OEMs you can use.
But if you think its acting weird don't trust it.
--STeve Andre'
ant. "top -s 1" will update
things every second. Do a man top and look at the references to other
programs, in particular systat(1). The *stat programs will give you all
that you want to know.
--STeve Andre'
eral hams have/are using OpenBSD with ham
stuff. Look in the "comms" sections of the ports tree for the ham
software thats available to you.
73, STeve Andre' (wb8wsf)
out the
system. Sure, at first its an alien world, but you have all the src tree
to look at, and with time you'll have at least a toplevel understanding
of whats going on.
I'd rather have things this way, and let Theo et al work rather than
bogging them down in perpetual questions.
--STeve Andre'
d with the latest shopshot last Friday and the changes were
*great*. It makes an easier system even better. Hats off to you.
--STeve Andre'
temagic. ;-)
They're all good, and the effect of stuffing these on a CD and giving
to the unwary results in people wondering just what an openbsd is.
My reply is usually, "You mean your operating system doesn't have
a song to celibrate a new release?"
I get great stares.
--STeve Andre'
s. Sadly we have entered
the relm of severe cpu problems.
--STeve Andre'
ey work nicely with LaTeX and cost in the $300-400 range I've been
> told.
Marc, I'd appreciate the model number(s) of the HP printers. I'm getting
ready to make some dual-boot systems, and these folks all want printers.
Seems that this might make a good faq entry, if it isn't already there(?).
Thanks,
--STeve Andre'
ou are using ECC doesn't rule out the possibility that some of the
control logic on a dimm is bad. If memtest86 handles ECC, I'd run it
on that hardware for 24 hours and see what happens.
Checking all the cables, especially disk might make sense too?
--STeve Andre'
On Monday 02 March 2009 15:00:31 new_guy wrote:
> STeve Andre' wrote:
> > You might want to try -current--it just might fix your problem. Lately
> > I've been doing a trick that annoys my Linux friends--I take their USB
> > wifi stick and stuff it into my thin
On Monday 02 March 2009 13:50:21 Jeff Flowers wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:26 PM, STeve Andre' wrote:
> > On Monday 02 March 2009 13:11:02 Jeff Flowers wrote:
> >> I recently purchased a Lenovo Ideapad S10, onto which I have
> >> successfully installed Open
a rum(4) device.
But try random devices. it's fun.
--STeve Andre'
now your data is in good hands, and that they won't slip up
let others see it? I won't mention the concept of the place going under,
financially.
If you want to make backups, get a cheap USB disk, or build one yourself
with a USB enclosure and disk from some place like Newegg. Make the
backup and stuff the disk somewhere like a friends house. Far faster and
I daresay more secure.
--STeve Andre'
oses network once in a while.
> > The best fix so far is some ifconfig iwn0 down; dhclient iwn0
> > That makes it work again...
>
> ipw in the T61p has the same.
> Once a week or something.
I think these iwn problems are machine specific. I have a W500 ThinkPad, and
iwn0 is rock stable here. As long as I have a signal, I have a connection,
and, its more sensitive than other laptops.
--STeve Andre'
from
> the Soekris firewall rather than leaving them on all the time.
/usr/ports/net/wol has existed for some time now. I like the idea of
a builtin wake more though.
You can always keep a copy of it and build it yourself. Thats what I've
done.
--STeve Andre'
ke USB1.1. I can't
> attach dmesg now but will soon. Any sugerence??
>
> -Jesus
The first "dumb question" to ask is if you are sure the OpenBSD machine
has a USB 2 port on it. So if this is a different machine, do look there.
This is rather like trying to diagnose a brok
ve 16G
card? (I currently have no way to test that). I haven't seen much
in the way of discussion about this.
Thanks, STeve Andre'
(dmesg with the 1G card inserted)
OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #5: Tue Jan 6 21:23:56 EST 2009
r...@paladin.pls.msu.edu:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile
On Monday 29 December 2008 12:09:25 Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In <http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=123005920715662&w=1>,
> Steve Andre' wrote
>
> > Most if not all T series are good choices. Newer and faster, but cost
> > more. A 1.6G
in disks, but otherwise works.
The T60p is a great machine, and has complete support (minus winmodem)
The new W500 is great. The SD slot is supported, too. These are $2K
machines so not cheap.
There is excellent user support on the thinkpads mailing list at
http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad and a thinkpad
forum at www.thinkpads.com.
--STeve Andre'
spamlogd_flags="" # use eg. "-i interface" and see spamlogd(8)
Take the sendmail_flags line and make a commented out copy of it
and then add
sendmail_flags=NO
Don't tweak system files unless you really have to. rc.conf controls
a lot, and is the proper way to change how the system works.
--STeve Andre'
.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
>
> Thanks for listening,
>
> /juan
I had a random ral USB device on a T60p ThinkPad, which was rock stable,
so if you're having to reset things, I'd try another card. I'd also try
another newer snapshot.
--STeve Andre'
On Monday 03 November 2008 18:10:54 John Mensah wrote:
> I have a new email address!You can now email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
> I'm an investor. I have $12,000,000.00USD for investment.
>
> John Mensah
>
> - John Mensah
Might I suggest 285,000 copies of OpenBSD 4.4?
he case to the cement wall in the basement. Could you get it? Sure:
with enough effort and possibly explosives.
You can secure a computer pretty well. Just think heavy and bolted
to a wall.
--STeve Andre'
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