Re: just a friendly request

[Benjamin Heath]

On Jan 23, 2016 1:40 PM, "ty armour"  wrote:
>
> I am looking for tutorials on developing any and every aspect of OpenBSD,
> from bootloaders to device drivers to writing a raspberry pi image of
> OpenBSD.
>
> The more tutorials the better, because it allows the end user to not only
> provide useful feedback to the developers, it allows the user to customize
> their install in a safe and easy manner.
>
> You could post tutorials for writing custom audio and graphics frameworks
> too as I am looking to write a few frameworks myself.
>
> so literally tutorials on any and every aspect of developing openBSD,
> including how to get software to run under openbsd would be great
tutorials
> for the entire world of computers.
>
> Thanks
> -Ty
>

You're free to search this list for all the reasons why there isn't a
release on Raspberry Pi.

Might I ask, what brought this up exactly?

Re: Who teach the true message about the true free software?

[Benjamin Heath]

On Nov 20, 2015 9:15 AM, "français"  wrote:
>
> Please excuse me because I have posted on OpenBSD lists and other lists.
>
> Who teach the true message about the true free software?
>
> I ask this because I not want be deceived by hypocritical liars that teach
> falsely about free software.
>
> Hardcore OpenBSD user community, please, for avoid flames, answer me using
> message private.

"I do not want to be deceived by hypocritical liars that teach falsely"...
You're not at church, this isn't a religious organization, they aren't
prophets, and free software should not be a religious doctrine.

The fact that it's used like one is peculiar, isn't it?

Now if you'll excuse me, my dogma just got hit by a karma.

Linus Torvalds thoughts on Linux Security

[Benjamin Heath]

On Nov 7, 2015 9:33 PM, "Some Developer"  wrote:
>
> On 08/11/15 04:26, Eric Furman wrote:
>>
>> Please don't encourage trolls.
>> This has already been discussed at length on this list to no purpose.
>>
>
> I'm not a troll. Just saw the thread on Slashdot and thought it would be
interesting to see what other people thought.
>
> I'll refrain from posting such things in the future if the only response
I get is being called a troll (which is a really unimaginative insult by
the way).
>

He didn't. He said don't encourage them, and that this conversation has
already been had. No more or less, and no insult to you.

I personally don't mind that much. But I also appreciate a well-controlled
list that's free of noise and available for support.

Just a thank you.

[Benjamin Heath]

Hi,

This seems non-sequitur somehow, but I would simply like thank all the
developers of OpenBSD for continuing work on the only OS that I really
trust. I learn plenty just by lurking on this list. I also appreciate
having a set of developers with the fortitude to entirely reject very
flawed systems, and I like that simply because someone has to.

Just thanks.
Ben.

Chain loading from grub 0.97

[Benjamin Heath]

Hello misc!

I've had Openbsd 5.5 for a while as the sole system on my eeepc. I decided
to install grub and multi boot to either Linux or Freebsd.

# pkg_add grub
# grub-install
# reboot

Oops. I didn't configure it. Oh well, I'm sure I can just use grub manually
to chainload Openbsd. First I make sure nothing was erased.

grub find /boot
  (hd0,3,a)
grub find /bsd.rd
  (hd0,3,a)
grub find /root/.profile
  (hd0,3,a)

So it's clearly still there.

grub rootnoverify (hd0,3,a)
grub chainloader +1
grub boot

Fail. This takes me right back to grub. I even tried direct booting, but as
with every tut and email I've read on the subject, it only leads to a
panic.

grub kernel --type=openbsd /boot
grub boot

Panic.

grub kernel --type=openbsd /bsd.rd
grub boot

Panic.

Seems I'm stuck. What do I do to chainload openbsd when grub just
chainloads itself?

Re: Chain loading from grub 0.97

[Benjamin Heath]

On May 26, 2014 11:50 AM, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas j...@wxcvbn.org
wrote:

 Benjamin Heath benjamin.joel.he...@gmail.com writes:

  Hello misc!
 
  I've had Openbsd 5.5 for a while as the sole system on my eeepc. I
decided
  to install grub and multi boot to either Linux or Freebsd.
 
  # pkg_add grub
  # grub-install
  # reboot
 
  Oops. I didn't configure it. Oh well, I'm sure I can just use grub
manually
  to chainload Openbsd. First I make sure nothing was erased.
 
  grub find /boot
(hd0,3,a)
  grub find /bsd.rd
(hd0,3,a)
  grub find /root/.profile
(hd0,3,a)
 
  So it's clearly still there.
 
  grub rootnoverify (hd0,3,a)
  grub chainloader +1
  grub boot

 What about (untested):

 grub rootnoverify (hd0,3)
 grub chainloader +1
 grub boot

 [...]

 --
 jca | PGP : 0x1524E7EE / 5135 92C1 AD36 5293 2BDF  DDCC 0DFA 74AE 1524
E7EE

Thank you for the response. Same result, unfortunately.

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

[Benjamin Heath]

Adding to your previous thoughts, it became clear to me some years ago that
the best way to gather information on someone is to find information which
they've volunteered.

Facebook and other social networks have a space to select your religion,
sexual identity, location, school, work, and contact information. Much of
this information can be selected from existing lists. Supplying this
information hands it into the realm of Facebook apps with permission to
access that information, too.

But, people have given up this information. They weren't even paid or
coerced. Why so naive?

But that's just it, isn't it? People are naive. They go to public schools
where they are taught to accept what is popular and reject all else, and
that's where much of it starts. Computers must run Windows. If you want to
be different, buy a Mac. Programs must be big and graphical with plenty of
room for error. Why have it any other way?

I have also noticed that the news is saying what is and isn't common sense
now. They use this term as a backhanded directive, as if to say, Of course
it is so, this is common sense. In fact, common sense is a little more
inquisitive than that, and common sense would actually have it that you
don't trust everything you hear.

On topic and as a response to Theo, Twitter is a vehicle of passive
aggression and ad hominem attacks among other things. I blame Twitter for
the direction much of the Internet has taken. It is quick, it is short, and
that's how people are with other people. They are quick, and they are
short. And it seems a pretty weak attempt at disparaging your character.

Thank you, and please, please keep it up.
On Oct 8, 2013 6:14 PM, Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca wrote:

 On 10/08/13 20:42, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love OpenBSD, seriously, and developers of it are clearly geniuses. And
 any chance I get I promote it.


 Excellent, and I applaud you for that.

 You should take a look at the papers/presentations the devs have given.
  The stuff Theo wrote on W^X was mind boggling.  Over my head, but I got
 the gist.  I'm not going to find the ones I'm thinking of (it's been a
 while since I read them), I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader.
  You'll find plenty of mind-blowing stuff.

 (Ok, I can't resist.  I'll link to one particular page that's really easy
 to understand: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/**eurobsdcon_2013_time_t/**
 mgp3.htmlhttp://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon_2013_time_t/mgp3.html.
 Maybe another, this is from 2005, and I nearly lost my mind:
 http://www.openbsd.org/papers/**ven05-deraadt/index.htmlhttp://www.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-deraadt/index.html
 )

 I don't mean to single out Theo, but he started this thread, so he remains
 the focus.  You should read the stuff the other devs have written, it's all
 excellent stuff.  The genius shines through.

  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
 network.


 All I can say is, I hope you don't do anything private with your device.
  You have two /proven/ weak points in your hand.  Anything HTTPS/TLS/SSL on
 your handheld is probably moot, but I'd still use crypto anyway. :)
  Convenience comes with a price.

 And Richard, thanks for sharing your thoughts.  It adds to the balance.

 --
 Scott McEachern

 https://www.blackstaff.ca

 Beware the Four Horsemen of the Information Apocalypse: terrorists, drug
 dealers, kidnappers, and child pornographers. Seems like you can scare any
 public into allowing the government to do anything with those four.  --
 Bruce Schneier

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

[Benjamin Heath]

On Oct 8, 2013 8:21 PM, Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca wrote:

 On 10/08/13 22:44, Benjamin Heath wrote:
 But that's just it, isn't it? People are naive. They go to public schools
 where they are taught to accept what is popular and reject all else, and
 that's where much of it starts. Computers must run Windows. If you want
to
 be different, buy a Mac. Programs must be big and graphical with plenty
of
 room for error. Why have it any other way?


 So far as I understand it, kids often aren't being taught the course
material. They're being taught the test. That is, the standardized
evaluation tests for each subject. It inflates test scores to acceptable
limits.

 The ability to think, critically, isn't being taught at all. You have
kids walking out of school thinking crap like Intelligent Design is
plausible, and that the earth really is only 6000 years old. Darwin's ideas
are just theories, but fail to realize gravity is just a theory too.
Stand on a 10th floor balcony, and test out that just a theory.

 Why would kids do such silly things as read books, when they have
summarized versions online that they can skim over while they're waiting
for their tweet/facebook update to be replied to. After all, it is the most
profound 130 character message ever written.

It isn't only the course material or the testing material, but I'd argue
that public school itself is a critical time in which a young human being
learns to desire what's popular, and to desire to be popular. (Look, I'm a
geek, and things like The Big Bang Theory on CBS make me cringe.) But the
lack of critical thinking in this issue leads to a lot of confused kids who
then graduate and are soon called legal adults if they aren't already. And
then what? Inattention, apathy, acceptance, mediocrity, and that's how the
toad boils.

It's also quite interesting that there are more books and other documents
on this planet than ever before, more people know the basics of how to read
and write than ever before, and yet the interest is shot down by lack of
attention, for whichever reason.

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

[Benjamin Heath]

Sent from a gmail address, just to season this with a little irony.