Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-06 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 6, 2008 1:39 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Developing a program ( real software ) for a non-free platform is big encouragement by loud communication ( actions speak better than words ) to use or continue using that non-free platform. There are two issues

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-06 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul de Weerd wrote: I repeat : keep this onlist or out of my mailbox. This one is on the list. | Oh.. so that is your argument; Just because you don't keep it in | distfiles doesn't make you any right. jolan is a developer of OpenBSD. | Look in

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-06 Thread Karthik Kumar
Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to indicate you have at least installed it). That's non-free software you've installed, but you are free to do so. Then, to you, those four small files

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-06 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 6, 2008 10:41 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 09:52:18PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: | Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player | on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to | indicate you

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-06 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You see, rms? You were right. OpenBSD has lots of trolls who: a. Don't find out about the person who is emailing b. Make assumptions about the person in a. c. Just troll all day and have no work to do d. Bitch about everything else because of c. e.

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 5, 2008 8:19 PM, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/6, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you for telling me about this problem. I will talk with them about this ASAP. I expect they will probably remove those. And ReactOS is next? Does ReactOS

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs to be documented for users to get their job done faster. If you don't mind users using non-free software, you shouldn't be putting the 'Free. ' in

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
Again this is for RMS. He does not fix the problem at his end. those are 1) Apologize for slandering other projects who don't come under his control. 2) Do Research to find out the truth 3) Be practical ( Demon+wget ) And all he does is is complain. 1) I made a minor mistake. 2)

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 5, 2008 11:20 PM, William Boshuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
Then you are misunderstanding OpenBSD's goals which are clearly stated at the link I provided you and that you obviously failed to read. I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you like and fight for what you believe in. Goals are just text written in a stupid web

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 5, 2008 10:56 PM, Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users installing non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this needs

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 6, 2008 12:26 AM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2008 11:28 PM, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I represent neither FSF nor OpenBSD. I probably represent the community which listens to the propagandas put across by both but wants to fight back against false

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not allow them to be redistributed with the system. You are talking of free as in freedom and not price, right? If the whole point was to avoid paying $$$ in OpenBSD, my bad. -- Gilles Chehade -- Karthik

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 6, 2008 1:22 AM, Jacob Grydholt Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/01/2008, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use ports. I am not dumb. :P The goals do not specify to encourage people to use non-free software, but I see that happening anyway. And so what? I think you

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest analogies I have ever heard. Who came up with it anyway? Was it the FSF by any chance? A guy called it 'Free as in Sex' here. Blame him for the next dumbest term. :P By now if you have been carefully studying you

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Karthik Kumar
On Jan 6, 2008 4:25 AM, Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:42:16AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not allow them to be redistributed with the system. You are talking of free as in freedom

User's Supplementary Documents

2007-12-29 Thread Karthik Kumar
Hi, The Makefile in /usr/share/doc/usd complains about missing or not installed documentation. I talked to a few people and they told me it was partly because of copyright reasons. Is that true? In case it was missing, a google for 02.learn yielded me this location:

Re: Ethernet jumbo frames?

2007-12-29 Thread Karthik Kumar
This should help you: http://sd.wareonearth.com/~phil/net/jumbo/ On Dec 30, 2007 12:11 PM, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What on earth is this? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-centos-debian-ubuntu-jumbo-frames-configuration/ I was under the impression that Ethernet frames

Re: Marry Christmas!

2007-12-23 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We first thought we'd sue you, but we are okay with many Santas during this season... Merry Christmas, Ho-ho-ho! The Santa Claus Company North Pole Marco Peereboom wrote: Christmas is a pagan holiday so it really does not matter if one is

Re: Straw men (Straw women too thx Hannah)

2007-12-17 Thread Karthik Kumar
Sorry, we are already overstocked on requests. Please try again next year. The Santa Claus Company, North Pole On Dec 17, 2007 6:59 PM, Fergus Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: Santa, The North Pole (next to Superman's house) Dear Santa, I am a poor kid from England and what I really,

Re: Straw men (Straw women too thx Hannah)

2007-12-17 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ho, ho,ho! You've been very naughty, OpenBSD people! No presents for you this time. The Santa Claus Company, North Pole Frans Haarman wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 3:14 PM, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, we are already overstocked

Re: Straw men (Straw women too thx Hannah)

2007-12-17 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gregg Reynolds wrote: On 12/17/07, Fergus Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: Santa, The North Pole (next to Superman's house) Dear Santa, I am a poor kid from England and what I really, really want for Christmas is for this thread to end.

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Karthik Kumar
If the confusion regarding whether such a flash player exists at all: http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070907181228 -- Karthik http://guilt.bafsoft.net

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-13 Thread Karthik Kumar
Hey, we could all use the same arguments and call OpenBSD hypocritical: say no to blobs (it's even on the nvidia-wallpaper!) but say yes to libflashplayer.so (which is of course secure because it's obscure, but more than that it's a necessity for so many users which makes it ethical to use it

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-13 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is what I felt; All comments are welcome. If both parties were at fault for somehow giving the user the wrong idea that flash player is great on BSD OR windows is great coz it runs emacs, is this the right way to settle it? The honest way

Re: OpenBSD in the webcomic XKCD

2007-11-26 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Artur Grabowski wrote: frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but can't call yerself a unix guru if havent fu*ed up dual boot at least once :] never fucked up a dual boot. Only tried it two times and both times it worked. Dual boot is for

Re: Would I be encouraged to use OpenBSD as embedded system

2007-11-24 Thread Karthik Kumar
Most importantly audio support has been excellent with OpenBSD. There are problems with exotic hardware however. OSS is available, for those who are willing to go a little CDDL. -- Karthik http://guilt.bafsoft.net

Re: google team and the DIY way of life

2007-11-10 Thread Karthik Kumar
Not again! On Nov 10, 2007 3:01 PM, xavier brinon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the Official Google Blog Posted by Reza Behforooz, Software Engineer In my first month at Google, I complained to a friend on the Gmail team about a couple of small things that I disliked about Gmail. I

Re: Google employment opportunity

2007-10-28 Thread Karthik Kumar
with passing a law and asking the *-search engine guys to be responsible for their policies, I'm sure that there is something fundamentally wrong with them (Gov). On 10/28/07, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 06:24:59PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: On 10/27/07, Karel

Re: Google employment opportunity

2007-10-28 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
, or otherwise. RW wrote: On 10/28/07, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:15:28 +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: Loads of irrelevant waffle which belongs somewhere else. How about you two start your own blog somewhere and recruit a willing coterie who are at least

Re: Google employment opportunity

2007-10-14 Thread Karthik Kumar
@Theo: they asked you in front of everybody, you should give it a reply so all of us can hear. You guys think they'll hire everybody/somebody else on the list? Since everybody is posting something or the other, I suggest we make this the next long thread. Without the flamebaits. +1 On

Re: Google employment opportunity

2007-10-14 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andris wrote: On 10/14/07, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He will not be independent anymore. Why not? As long as Theo releases his software under the ISC license, I see no issue with independency. And if Google have problems with new

Re: Google employment opportunity

2007-10-13 Thread Karthik Kumar
Well.. I think this might turn out to become the next slashdot story, the way it's been on the list. 'Google looking forward to hire Theo' Surely you don't want that, do you? I'm waiting for Theo's response.