Re: inteldrm_attach still broken

2011-12-30 Thread listmail
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:11:18 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote
 * Alexander Polakov polac...@gmail.com [2011-12-30 09:11]:
  * listmail listm...@entertech.com [111230 08:52]:
   Back in June of 2011, I reported problems with the Supermicro P8SCI and
P8SCT
   motherboards failing to boot OpenBSD 4.8 and 4.9, due to a kernel page 
   fault
   trap at interdrm_attach. Just for fun, I tried OpenBSD 5.0 tonight, and 
   the
   same problem still happens. 
   
  Have you tried 
  
   boot -c
   disable inteldrm
  
  If it works, use config -ef /bsd to make it permanent.
 
 no, don't do that. that just stupidly hides the bug and pretty much
 makes sure it won't get fixed (unless someone else runs into it too
 and doesn't pick stupid workarounds).
 
 this however IS useful to (mostly) verify inteldrm itself is to blame.
 
Thanks to Alexander and Henning for the suggestions. By disabling inteldrm at
boot time, I was able to get one of the Supermicro mobos to boot OpenBSD 5.0. 
From that instance, I used sendbug(1) to mail a bug report. From looking at
the changelog http://openbsd.org/plus48.html I see that two changes were
checked in between 4.7 and 4.8 related to inteldrm. Hopefully this helps the
maintainer of that module to track down and fix the problem.


Happy New Year to All!

Cheers,
--Bill



inteldrm_attach still broken

2011-12-29 Thread listmail
Hi,

Back in June of 2011, I reported problems with the Supermicro P8SCI and P8SCT
motherboards failing to boot OpenBSD 4.8 and 4.9, due to a kernel page fault
trap at interdrm_attach. Just for fun, I tried OpenBSD 5.0 tonight, and the
same problem still happens. 

Has anyone found a workaround for this, or are there any plans to fix it? I
have several of these motherboards running in firewalls, and unless I can find
a fix, these boxes are trapped at OpenBSD 4.7 until I can replace them all.

If anyone needs a box to test on, it looks like I'll have quite a few spares :-)

Thanks,
--Bill



Re: inteldrm_attach still broken

2011-12-29 Thread listmail
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:18:49 -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote
 Hi Bill,
 
 If you really want this to be fix, the best way would be to help 
 yourself by trying different vcs updates in between 4.7 and 4.8 and 
 if you find the exact change that start to create your problem and 
 send it to the list, I am sure someone will look into it for you.

Hi Daniel,

I fondly remember the days when I had the time to do things like that.

Unfortunately, these days, I'm just a luser who buys the OpenBSD CDs and makes
networks run. Frankly, it's far less expensive for me to replace all of the
SuperO P8xxx machines running OpenBSD than it is to spend time tracking down
this kernel bug. I'll happily donate a machine to the project if any of the
developers are interested in fixing this. Meanwhile, I'll be installing
OpenBSD 5.0 on machines that it works on, so that I can move forward with what
I need to get done.

Cheers,
--Bill



Re: OpenBSD current i386 hangs on boot in lm0.

2011-07-06 Thread listmail
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:23:08 +0200 (CEST), Francois Pussault wrote
 Hi all,
 
 Medion computers, supermicro (many cheap models) motherboards are 
 known as 'not free *unix* compatible'. Therefore most of supermicro 
 other motherboards just seem to work well with *linux  *BSD. Madion 
 are hardware coded to be able only to boot a real windows OS,
  (even reactOS often fail to boot correctly), Then you need to boot 
 other OS to have a windows installed in first partition(s)  to use 
 a multiboot, but even that can fail
 
I have to disagree about Supermicro. I have been using their motherboards
since the mid-2000s, and they are neither cheap nor unfriendly to free unices.
The biggest problem is that their support people are generally not unix
people. I never had any trouble running OpenBSD on their products until 4.8,
when it started hanging on boot, which I reported to this list previously.
~~~



Re: 4.8 and 4.9 Panic on Supermicro P8SCi

2011-06-28 Thread listmail
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:38:54 -0400, Nick Holland wrote
 On 06/27/2011 02:03 PM, listmail wrote:
  Hi,
 
  At the end of May, there was discussion on the list regarding the panic
  related to interdrm when installing 4.8 or 4.9 on Supermicro P8SCi mobos. At
  the time, it looked like a fix was going to be checked in.
 
  I was hoping that a new ISO might be posted with this fix, but I don't see
  anything later than March 2nd on the ftp site. Does anyone know if there is 
  a
  patched installer available?
 
  Thanks,
  --Bill
 
 pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/arch
 is what you are looking for on your favorite mirror.
 
 And maybe a read-through of http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html
 (this will probably answer the questions you are about to ask in 
 response to the above...)
 
 Nick.

Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, we don't have enough time, or spare
machines, to compile from scratch and test, while still maintaining a few hot
spares. So for now, we'll try to come up with more hardware, or in the worst
case, wait for the next release (4.10)?

Thanks Again,
--Bill



4.8 and 4.9 Panic on Supermicro P8SCi

2011-06-27 Thread listmail
Hi,

At the end of May, there was discussion on the list regarding the panic
related to interdrm when installing 4.8 or 4.9 on Supermicro P8SCi mobos. At
the time, it looked like a fix was going to be checked in.

I was hoping that a new ISO might be posted with this fix, but I don't see
anything later than March 2nd on the ftp site. Does anyone know if there is a
patched installer available? 

Thanks,
--Bill