Re: : : Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-13 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 01:25:15PM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: : I (and others) use variations on a slightly different approach... : I can publish the scripts if anyone is interested. http://www.erlang.org/~raimo/greytrap/ -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB -- / Raimo

Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Morgan Wesström
to grasp from the man pages how all the components work together (spamd, spamlogd, spamd-setup, spamdb, pf) especially when you're only used to blacklisting like I am. But everything seems to be working just fine now. However, I'm confused about the purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
.: fine now. However, I'm confused about the purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode. * There is no longer a spamd table to fill with blacklisted IP addresses. Correct. Because spamd takes care of blacklisted IPs and no longer pf. * Addresses being whitelisted in spamdb are automatically moved

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Morgan Wesström
Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 09:46 +0200, Morgan Wesstrvm wrote: information Google turned up. A general reflection is that it's a little hard to grasp from the man pages how all the components work together (spamd, spamlogd, spamd-setup, spamdb, pf) especially when you're

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Morgan Wesstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't slept tonight so I simply don't understand what this paragraph is saying or what its purpose is? Can I enter fake email addresses here and if a GREY host happens to send a mail to this fake address, that host gets blacklisted? How big is the

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Morgan Wesström
Does this somehow has to do with the fdescfs filesystem that has to be mounted? Are you by any chance using this on a non-OpenBSD OS? Yes, FreeBSD. I remember when I upgraded spamd once during it's 3.x era, it suddenly started to complain about missing fdescfs and refused to start so I had

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Morgan Wesström
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: This is where you may find a major source of entertainment. Yes, you can enter bogus addresses in the traplist. Yes, the easiest way to decide what to put in your traplist is to harvest from the joejob-generated bounce messages that keep piling up. For good

Re: : Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:46:29AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Morgan Wesstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't slept tonight so I simply don't understand what this paragraph is saying or what its purpose is? Can I enter fake email addresses here and if a GREY host happens to

Re: : Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Bojidara Marinchovska
Raimo Niskanen wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:46:29AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Morgan Wesstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't slept tonight so I simply don't understand what this paragraph is saying or what its purpose is? Can I enter fake email addresses here and

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Morgan Wesström
Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008-08-12, Morgan Wesstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct. Because spamd takes care of blacklisted IPs and no longer pf. Yes, but what does that mean? Does spamd keep an internal list of blacklisted IP addresses yes and why is it not in the spamd database in

Re: : Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can publish the scripts if anyone is interested. Those script sound very interesting. I'd love to see them. - P -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-08-12, Morgan Wesstrvm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and why is it not in the spamd database in that case (which seems a natural place for it)? Can I see it somewhere and manipulate it manually? it's transient fast-changing information, there isn't a lot of point writing it to disk... I

Re: Purpose of spamd-setup in greylisting mode?

2008-08-12 Thread Morgan Wesström
I don't think you really want to be removing and re-adding tens of thousands of /var/db/spamd entries from a network-based blacklist once an hour. How would I handle the hosts that have been dynamically blacklisted during the computer's uptime if I have to reboot it? Dynamically, what do you