Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-21 Thread lists
Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:32:08 +0200 Marc Peters 
> Am 10/20/16 um 18:26 schrieb Stuart Henderson:
> > 
> > You should find out if they have IPMI.  Standard config on many Supermicros
> > is to have it enabled, sharing the first main network port if you don't have
> > anything plugged into the dedicated one, with the same password on every
> > machine.  You do not want this.
> >   
> 
> Yeah, we have a couple of Supermicros, which have IPMI. Actually, the
> IPMI will share any connected onboard nic, if the dedicated is not
> connected. These machines at least don't have IPMI and i don't know, if
> you can buy any equipped with IPMI.
> 

Hi Marc,

You can use these online resources to locate your motherboard and verify
its capabilities or if there is new BIOS and IPMI firmware respectively:

Supermicro: Motherboard Matrix
http://www.supermicro.com/ResourceApps/MB_matrix.aspx

Supermicro: Firmware List
http://supermicro.com/support/bios/firmware0.aspx

Thomas Krenn Wiki: (Supermicro) Motherboards
https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Category:Motherboards

A basic search for secure IPMI deployment guide will be of good results.

Kind regards,
Anton



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-21 Thread Marc Peters
Am 10/20/16 um 18:26 schrieb Stuart Henderson:
> 
> You should find out if they have IPMI.  Standard config on many Supermicros
> is to have it enabled, sharing the first main network port if you don't have
> anything plugged into the dedicated one, with the same password on every
> machine.  You do not want this.
> 

Yeah, we have a couple of Supermicros, which have IPMI. Actually, the
IPMI will share any connected onboard nic, if the dedicated is not
connected. These machines at least don't have IPMI and i don't know, if
you can buy any equipped with IPMI.



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-20 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2016-10-20, Marc Peters  wrote:
> What about Supermicros with four em(4)? We have a pair of
>
> Product Name: X10SLM+-LN4F
>
> in production for a branch office with couple of ipsec tunnels. They
> have four copper nics onboard and PCIe expansion slots, if you are in
> need of fiber or additional ports.
> Afair, they don't have a raid controller onboard, but we use softraid
> with RAID1 on them. I don't know if they have an IPMI, but you get they
> idea :).

You should find out if they have IPMI.  Standard config on many Supermicros
is to have it enabled, sharing the first main network port if you don't have
anything plugged into the dedicated one, with the same password on every
machine.  You do not want this.



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-20 Thread Marc Peters
Am 10/19/16 um 21:03 schrieb Marko Cupać:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a budget which is a few times the price of single apu2.
> Actually, initially I planned to use a pair of HPE ProLiant DL20 gen9
> for this purpose. Unfortunately, it appears DL20gen9s won't boot
> OpenBSD: [https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=147611237327210&w=2]
> If someone has good experience with OpenBSD on entry level HPE ProLiant
> servers that are currently being sold new, please let me know.
> 
> One of requirements for this hardware is that it has to be purchased
> from a local distributor in Serbia, in order to avoid hassle with
> customs, import taxes, first import certification, guarantee period
> etc. PC Engines have distributor here, that's one of the reasons I buy
> their gear. The same with HP. I doubt Lanner and Jetway have
> distributor in Serbia, at least web search didn't return anything.
> 

What about Supermicros with four em(4)? We have a pair of

Product Name: X10SLM+-LN4F

in production for a branch office with couple of ipsec tunnels. They
have four copper nics onboard and PCIe expansion slots, if you are in
need of fiber or additional ports.
Afair, they don't have a raid controller onboard, but we use softraid
with RAID1 on them. I don't know if they have an IPMI, but you get they
idea :).

hth,
Marc



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-20 Thread BARDOU Pierre
Hi, 

I am planning to try DL320e G8 v2, in the same price range of the DL20 G9.
If you have a few weeks I should be able to tell you if it works.

For the APU, I would go with a manageable switch and VLAN.

--
Cordialement,
Pierre BARDOU


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Envoyé : mercredi 19 octobre 2016 21:03
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Objet : Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

Hi,

I have a budget which is a few times the price of single apu2.
Actually, initially I planned to use a pair of HPE ProLiant DL20 gen9 for this 
purpose. Unfortunately, it appears DL20gen9s won't boot
OpenBSD: [https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=147611237327210&w=2]
If someone has good experience with OpenBSD on entry level HPE ProLiant servers 
that are currently being sold new, please let me know.

One of requirements for this hardware is that it has to be purchased from a 
local distributor in Serbia, in order to avoid hassle with customs, import 
taxes, first import certification, guarantee period etc. PC Engines have 
distributor here, that's one of the reasons I buy their gear. The same with HP. 
I doubt Lanner and Jetway have distributor in Serbia, at least web search 
didn't return anything.

My intention was what Florian suggested, to use miniPCIe NIC, and I wanted to 
ask if someone knows about one that is tested in production on OpenBSD, and 
works fine.

Regards,
--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-19 Thread Marko Cupać
Hi,

I have a budget which is a few times the price of single apu2.
Actually, initially I planned to use a pair of HPE ProLiant DL20 gen9
for this purpose. Unfortunately, it appears DL20gen9s won't boot
OpenBSD: [https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=147611237327210&w=2]
If someone has good experience with OpenBSD on entry level HPE ProLiant
servers that are currently being sold new, please let me know.

One of requirements for this hardware is that it has to be purchased
from a local distributor in Serbia, in order to avoid hassle with
customs, import taxes, first import certification, guarantee period
etc. PC Engines have distributor here, that's one of the reasons I buy
their gear. The same with HP. I doubt Lanner and Jetway have
distributor in Serbia, at least web search didn't return anything.

My intention was what Florian suggested, to use miniPCIe NIC, and I
wanted to ask if someone knows about one that is tested in production
on OpenBSD, and works fine.

Regards,
--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-19 Thread Florian Ermisch
Am 19. Oktober 2016 15:50:10 MESZ, schrieb sven falempin 
:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Mihai Popescu 
> wrote:
> 
> > > e.g. from Lanner.
> >
> > Can you compensate for the price difference? […]
> […]
> Also you may use a usb to ethernet , or serial to ethernet and connect
> the
> two board.
> 
> And keep the
> apu you know.

Why not use a NIC which fits in one
of its two miniPCIe slots?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Gigabit+minipcie

There's even a dual port one with
Intel chips, the MPX-574D2.
Someone on the pcengines forum said
/he was told/ it would work with an 
APU2C4 but didn't post a confirmation:
http://www.pcengines.info/forums/?page=post&id=BA59278A-23D5-4FD3-87F5-CC6F146B96A5

Regards, Florian



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-19 Thread sven falempin
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Mihai Popescu  wrote:

> > e.g. from Lanner.
>
> Can you compensate for the price difference? OR better, do you know a
> retailer to sell this on the same price as pcengines in your area?
>
> Lanner is from another league.
>
>
You can also use rdomain/vlan and a good switch.

Also you may use a usb to ethernet , or serial to ethernet and connect the
two board.

And keep the
apu you know.

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Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-19 Thread Mihai Popescu
> e.g. from Lanner.

Can you compensate for the price difference? OR better, do you know a
retailer to sell this on the same price as pcengines in your area?

Lanner is from another league.



Re: 4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-19 Thread Martin Schröder
2016-10-19 14:24 GMT+02:00 Marko Cupać :
> Any other words of wisdom regarding my idea?

Safe yourself the trouble and get a similar machine with more NICs,
e.g. from Lanner.

Best
   Martin



4th nic for pcengines apu2

2016-10-19 Thread Marko Cupać
Hi,

I would like to experiment with pcengines' apu2 as a hardware platform
for CARPed firewalls for branch offices. All the branch offices have
two uplinks (no more than 50Mbit/s of gre/ipsec) over separate
providers, and local lan, which makes me short for one NIC over which I
would do pfsync.

Does anyone know about supported pci-e or usb NIC I could use for
pfsync?

Any other words of wisdom regarding my idea?

Thank you in advance,
--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/