Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-10 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/9/9, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com: And a new flag to struct in6_ifextra? Nope, it will be part of ifnet-if_xflags. Actually, it's already in in6_ifextra-nd_ifinfo-flags, named ND6_IFF_ACCEPT_RTADV and controlled by the ndp -i command. However, ifconfig autoconfprivacy uses

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-09 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/9/7, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com: As soon as you spilt a /64 into something smaler you left IPv6 land end entered something that looks like IPv6 but isn't. Sure it is possible but by doing it you make every IPv6 disciple scream in agony (which is probably a good thing anyway).

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-09 Thread Joakim Aronius
* Martin Pelikan (martin.peli...@gmail.com) wrote: 2010/9/7, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com: As soon as you spilt a /64 into something smaler you left IPv6 land end entered something that looks like IPv6 but isn't. Sure it is possible but by doing it you make every IPv6 disciple

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-07 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/9/6, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com: Only if you plan to use NAT in the near future. /64 is like a /32 in IP. Not enough in most cases. Why? You can always use DHCPv6 and split the rank further... I haven't much studied the protocol itself, but in practice the only system that has

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-07 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 10:23:19AM +0200, Martin Pelikan wrote: 2010/9/6, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com: Only if you plan to use NAT in the near future. /64 is like a /32 in IP. Not enough in most cases. Why? You can always use DHCPv6 and split the rank further... I haven't much

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
I think the number 1 question I have about IPv6 is: What is wrong with arp? Nothing is wrong with arp. As a result of avoiding arp, IPv6 is a duck sitting in a tailing pond. It isn't dead yet.

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-06 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 11:18:57AM +1000, Olivier Mehani wrote: On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 03:49:43PM -0400, Simon Comeau Martel wrote: You received a /64 for your router interface ? Or are you in a /64 subnet with other customers ? The setup sounds weird to me. To what address is your

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-06 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 06.09.2010 at 11:18:57 +1000, Olivier Mehani sht...@ssji.net wrote: On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 03:49:43PM -0400, Simon Comeau Martel wrote: You received a /64 for your router interface ? Or are you in a /64 subnet with other customers ? The setup sounds weird to me. To what

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-06 Thread Martin Pelikan
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 09:14:25AM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote: ah, great. So we just have 16 bits more then IPv4. Actually ISP can provide whatever they like to customers. Residential customers will most probably end up with /64. exactly, /64 is more than enough IIRC it is actually forced

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-06 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:49:46PM +0200, Martin Pelikan wrote: On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 09:14:25AM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote: ah, great. So we just have 16 bits more then IPv4. Actually ISP can provide whatever they like to customers. Residential customers will most probably end up with

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-06 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:26:09 +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote: exactly, /64 is more than enough Only if you plan to use NAT in the near future. /64 is like a /32 in IP. Not enough in most cases. Gee, I thought that 18446744073709551616 addresses was a bit more than 1 ;-) *** NOTE *** Please DO

Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-05 Thread Simon Comeau Martel
Hi, I am trying to figure out why OpenBSD won't let me activate net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv and net.inet6.ip6.forwarding at the same time. My ISP started an IPv6 beta, and I am trying to configure my OpenBSD router for it. I want to get the IPv6 address of my gateway (the address of my ISP's

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-05 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/9/5, Simon Comeau Martel si...@comeau.info: I am trying to figure out why OpenBSD won't let me activate net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv and net.inet6.ip6.forwarding at the same time. /usr/src/sys/netinet6/in6_proto.c:int ip6_accept_rtadv = 0; /* enabling forwarding and rtadv concurrently

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-05 Thread Simon Comeau Martel
2010/9/5 Martin Pelikan martin.peli...@gmail.com I can't think of a reason why two ISP's can't configure their routers' IPs manually. IMO autoconf is for end-users only. I am an end-user; not an ISP. I need autoconf to find what's my IPv6 default gateway. And I need to have a router on my

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-05 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 02:14:20PM -0400, Simon Comeau Martel wrote: | 2010/9/5 Martin Pelikan martin.peli...@gmail.com | | | I can't think of a reason why two ISP's can't configure their routers' | IPs manually. IMO autoconf is for end-users only. | | | | I am an end-user; not an ISP. I

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-05 Thread Simon Comeau Martel
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Paul de Weerd we...@weirdnet.nl wrote: You received a /64 for your router interface ? Or are you in a /64 subnet with other customers ? The setup sounds weird to me. To what address is your ISP forwarding that /56 ? Yeah, it's a bit strange. But it's their

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-05 Thread Josh Hoppes
I'm pretty sure IPv6 forwarding and accepting routing advertisements will be a necessity going forward. At the current time I don't know of any other way to dynamically find the default route in IPv6, necessary for end user gateways on consumer ISPs. Even using DHCPv6 your default gateway is found

Re: Activating ip6.forwarding and accept_rtadv at the same time

2010-09-05 Thread Olivier Mehani
On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 03:49:43PM -0400, Simon Comeau Martel wrote: You received a /64 for your router interface ? Or are you in a /64 subnet with other customers ? The setup sounds weird to me. To what address is your ISP forwarding that /56 ? Yeah, it's a bit strange. But it's their