Re: Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD

2018-10-08 Thread Tom Smyth
I second this approach...
1 sep further you could go is with a laptopwith a 2.5 inch sata slot and an
m sata slot
Install each os on separate internal drives

That way you can use the bios / boot menu to select the diskand hence the
os u wish to boot...

Hope this helps

On Mon 8 Oct 2018, 15:17 Henrik Engmark,  wrote:

> This will be yet another non-answer to your question, I am fully aware,
> but maybe it will be applicable to your situation.
>
> I always found dual booting with OpenBSD a little bit cumbersome
> compared to other OSes.
> Whenever I want to "dual boot" my OpenBSD client computers I
> install the second OS to its own usb drive with its own mbr, leaving
> the internal drive untouched.
> When I want to boot the secondary OS I just interrupt the normal
> boot process with whatever F-key and choose to boot from the stick.
> Has served me well for many years, and makes it very easy to try out
> different secondary OSes, as long as I consider OpenBSD my main.
>
> Regards,
> Henrik
>
> -Original message-
> > From: Dr. Martin Ivanov [mailto:martin.iva...@greenpocket.de]
> > Sent: den 7 oktober 2018 16:23
> > To: misc@openbsd.org
> > Subject: Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD
> >
> > Hello, I am a Linux (Slackware) fan who is keen to try the BSD flavour
> as well. I am planning to buy a new laptop, on which to install OpenBSD and
> DragonFly BSD in a dual boot set up. I know this is a challenging task, so
> I will proceed step by step.
> >
> >
> > My first question is, which operating system has to be installed first,
> DragonFly of OpenBSD? Assuming that it is DragonFly,  I am planning to:
> >
> >
> >   1.  Load DragonFly using a USB boot disk and login as root
> >
> >   2. Slice the hard drive in two GPT slices using gpt (e.g., das0 and
> > das1)
> >
> >   3. Create a, b, and d disklabel partitions on the Dragonfly slice
> > (das0)
> >
> >   4. Install DragonFly on das0
> >
> >   5. Create a, b, d, e, and probably some more disklabel partitions on
> > the OpenBSD slice (das1)
> >
> >   6. Install OpenBSD on das1
> >
> > Please correct me on any of the above steps. I will be happy to read
> your suggestions. I would be very thankful if you provide the corresponding
> commands in your answers.
> > Thank you very much in advance!
>
>


Re: Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD

2018-10-08 Thread Daniel Gracia
I'm currently running rEFInd to dual boot Win10/OBSD on a Lenovo
T460s. Just resized the Win10 partition, booted OBSD ramdisk,
installed it on the spare space, and then installed fEFInd over the NT
boot manager. To my surprise, it was a pretty painless procedure. And
solid: just once in the last couple years a Win update mangled the
boot manager and kidnapped the SSD, but reinstalling rEFInd over was
just a two minutes fix.

Good luck!

El lun., 8 oct. 2018 a las 16:07, Henrik Engmark () escribió:
>
> This will be yet another non-answer to your question, I am fully aware,
> but maybe it will be applicable to your situation.
>
> I always found dual booting with OpenBSD a little bit cumbersome
> compared to other OSes.
> Whenever I want to "dual boot" my OpenBSD client computers I
> install the second OS to its own usb drive with its own mbr, leaving
> the internal drive untouched.
> When I want to boot the secondary OS I just interrupt the normal
> boot process with whatever F-key and choose to boot from the stick.
> Has served me well for many years, and makes it very easy to try out
> different secondary OSes, as long as I consider OpenBSD my main.
>
> Regards,
> Henrik
>
> -Original message-
> > From: Dr. Martin Ivanov [mailto:martin.iva...@greenpocket.de]
> > Sent: den 7 oktober 2018 16:23
> > To: misc@openbsd.org
> > Subject: Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD
> >
> > Hello, I am a Linux (Slackware) fan who is keen to try the BSD flavour as 
> > well. I am planning to buy a new laptop, on which to install OpenBSD and 
> > DragonFly BSD in a dual boot set up. I know this is a challenging task, so 
> > I will proceed step by step.
> >
> >
> > My first question is, which operating system has to be installed first, 
> > DragonFly of OpenBSD? Assuming that it is DragonFly,  I am planning to:
> >
> >
> >   1.  Load DragonFly using a USB boot disk and login as root
> >
> >   2. Slice the hard drive in two GPT slices using gpt (e.g., das0 and
> > das1)
> >
> >   3. Create a, b, and d disklabel partitions on the Dragonfly slice
> > (das0)
> >
> >   4. Install DragonFly on das0
> >
> >   5. Create a, b, d, e, and probably some more disklabel partitions on
> > the OpenBSD slice (das1)
> >
> >   6. Install OpenBSD on das1
> >
> > Please correct me on any of the above steps. I will be happy to read your 
> > suggestions. I would be very thankful if you provide the corresponding 
> > commands in your answers.
> > Thank you very much in advance!
>



Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD

2018-10-08 Thread Heppler, J. Scott

This theoretically is doable but will be a challenge.  Your options will
also swing on whether the laptop you purchase will boot an old MBR
scheme or is restricted to GPT/UEFI.  DragonflyBSD has instructions on
multibooting an older MBR.

https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/handbook/Booting/

If you need GPT/UEFI, then you choosing a bootloader that is capable of
GPT/UEFI dual booting.  According to OpenBSD FAQ,  Grub2 or reFIND
will work.  


https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting
--
J. Scott Heppler



Re: Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD

2018-10-08 Thread Henrik Engmark
This will be yet another non-answer to your question, I am fully aware,
but maybe it will be applicable to your situation.

I always found dual booting with OpenBSD a little bit cumbersome
compared to other OSes.
Whenever I want to "dual boot" my OpenBSD client computers I
install the second OS to its own usb drive with its own mbr, leaving
the internal drive untouched.
When I want to boot the secondary OS I just interrupt the normal
boot process with whatever F-key and choose to boot from the stick.
Has served me well for many years, and makes it very easy to try out
different secondary OSes, as long as I consider OpenBSD my main.

Regards,
Henrik

-Original message-
> From: Dr. Martin Ivanov [mailto:martin.iva...@greenpocket.de] 
> Sent: den 7 oktober 2018 16:23
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD
>
> Hello, I am a Linux (Slackware) fan who is keen to try the BSD flavour as 
> well. I am planning to buy a new laptop, on which to install OpenBSD and 
> DragonFly BSD in a dual boot set up. I know this is a challenging task, so I 
> will proceed step by step. 
>
>
> My first question is, which operating system has to be installed first, 
> DragonFly of OpenBSD? Assuming that it is DragonFly,  I am planning to:
>
>
>   1.  Load DragonFly using a USB boot disk and login as root
>
>   2. Slice the hard drive in two GPT slices using gpt (e.g., das0 and
> das1)
>
>   3. Create a, b, and d disklabel partitions on the Dragonfly slice
> (das0)
>
>   4. Install DragonFly on das0
>
>   5. Create a, b, d, e, and probably some more disklabel partitions on
> the OpenBSD slice (das1)
>
>   6. Install OpenBSD on das1
>
> Please correct me on any of the above steps. I will be happy to read your 
> suggestions. I would be very thankful if you provide the corresponding 
> commands in your answers.
> Thank you very much in advance!



Re: Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD

2018-10-07 Thread Edgar Pettijohn


On Oct 7, 2018 9:22 AM, "Dr. Martin Ivanov"  
wrote:
>
> Hello, I am a Linux (Slackware) fan who is keen to try the BSD flavour as
> well. I am planning to buy a new laptop, on which to install OpenBSD and
> DragonFly BSD in a dual boot set up. I know this is a challenging task,
> so I will proceed step by step. 
>
>
> My first question is, which operating system has to be installed first,
> DragonFly of OpenBSD? Assuming that it is DragonFly,  I am planning to:
>
>
>   1.  Load DragonFly using a USB boot disk and login as root
>
>   2. Slice the hard drive in two GPT slices using gpt (e.g., das0 and
>     das1)
>
>   3. Create a, b, and d disklabel partitions on the Dragonfly slice
>     (das0)
>
>   4. Install DragonFly on das0
>
>   5. Create a, b, d, e, and probably some more disklabel partitions on
>     the OpenBSD slice (das1)
>
>   6. Install OpenBSD on das1
>
> Please correct me on any of the above steps. I will be happy to read your
> suggestions. I would be very thankful if you provide the corresponding
> commands in your answers.
> Thank you very much in advance!

As a user of both dragonfly and openbsd, and former slackware user. I would 
recommend skipping the dual boot and just installing openbsd. It will be much 
easier and will do everything you want. Maybe just keep half the disk 
unpartitioned so you can add a second os later or just mount it.

I know it doesn't answer the question.

Edgar



Dual boot OpenBSD with DragonFly BSD

2018-10-07 Thread Dr. Martin Ivanov
Hello, I am a Linux (Slackware) fan who is keen to try the BSD flavour as
well. I am planning to buy a new laptop, on which to install OpenBSD and
DragonFly BSD in a dual boot set up. I know this is a challenging task,
so I will proceed step by step. 


My first question is, which operating system has to be installed first,
DragonFly of OpenBSD? Assuming that it is DragonFly,  I am planning to:


  1.  Load DragonFly using a USB boot disk and login as root

  2. Slice the hard drive in two GPT slices using gpt (e.g., das0 and
das1)

  3. Create a, b, and d disklabel partitions on the Dragonfly slice
(das0)

  4. Install DragonFly on das0

  5. Create a, b, d, e, and probably some more disklabel partitions on
the OpenBSD slice (das1)

  6. Install OpenBSD on das1

Please correct me on any of the above steps. I will be happy to read your
suggestions. I would be very thankful if you provide the corresponding
commands in your answers.
Thank you very much in advance!