Re: Longest Uptime?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:54 PM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? SunOS 2.6 was released in 1999. if someone can really run a 9-yr-old release of *anything* exposed to the internet without doing much to it, and still avoid compromise, that would be a pretty good trick. ...lori
Re: Longest Uptime?
Lori Barfield wrote: SunOS 2.6 was released in 1999. if someone can really run a 9-yr-old release of *anything* exposed to the internet without doing much to it, and still avoid compromise, that would be a pretty good trick. ...lori Yes, I agree. But I have seen systems that old online in the year 2008. The latest one was running on 15 year old Sun hardware. SunOS 2.6. It had been hacked. I found it because it was infected with stacheldracht... remember that? One of the first DDOS tools. And it was phoning home to a handler (they did not refer to them as 'controllers' back in 1999). You'd be surprised... especially in higher-ed IT environments. Research professors with Nobel Peace prizes in science have dusty, old research labs full of systems like this... and yes, they are online :) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Longest-Uptime--tp20219082p20306106.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Andres Genovez a icrit : It is not the size of your uptime that matters, it is what you do with it. Nice One :) Well, I can see a pattern... Every year or so, someone runs into a Linux box that has not been rebooted or patched in a LONG time, usually because someone else higher in company's hierarchy doesn't want it rebooted. Then, amazed by the fact that an idle box does not crash when left doing nothing but idle, he just HAS to come over and brag about the uptime of that mostly idle box because it is three or more digits long. The truth is, most people here don't care about uptime, let alone the uptime of Linux boxes, and in OpenBSD land you better have a GOOD reason to have an uptime longer than two releases. Obviously, being amazed by the uptime of an idle box is not really a good reason ;-) Gilles, proud to never exceed 200 days of uptime
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Gilles Chehade wrote: [snip] ...and in OpenBSD land you better have a GOOD reason to have an uptime longer than two releases. [snip] Gilles, proud to never exceed 200 days of uptime Speaking of which... I think I have a pretty good reason to bring down my uptime very shortly. YAY! ~% uptime 10:39AM up 82 days, 14:06, 1 user, load averages: 0.22, 0.20, 0.17 # Han
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Han Boetes wrote: Gilles Chehade wrote: [snip] ...and in OpenBSD land you better have a GOOD reason to have an uptime longer than two releases. [snip] Gilles, proud to never exceed 200 days of uptime Speaking of which... I think I have a pretty good reason to bring down my uptime very shortly. YAY! ~% uptime 10:39AM up 82 days, 14:06, 1 user, load averages: 0.22, 0.20, 0.17 IMO, indvidual machines' uptime doesn't matter at all. Overall system uptime does matter (this is why we have carp, pfsync and relayd). Think Google. They have their cheap machines dying (or rebooting after patching) all the time, but overall system stability is very high. Alexey
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Okai, here's my $0.02 on the subject: http://systemnet.no/ios-uptime.jpg /Pete On 29 Oct 2008, at 18:49, guilherme m. schroeder wrote: Hi, Uptimes sucks. Here's the biggest i've ever seen in the company i work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a SunOS optg998 5.6 Generic_105181-26 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi- cEngine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uptime 3:40pm up 2639 day(s), 13:50, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ date Wed Oct 29 15:45:24 BRST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ psrinfo -v Status of processor 0 as of: 10/29/08 15:41:07 Processor has been on-line since 08/08/01 00:50:54. The sparc processor operates at 440 MHz, and has a sparc floating point processor. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg | tail -5 SUNW,hme0: Using External Transceiver SUNW,hme0: 100 Mbps half-duplex Link Up dump on /dev/md/dsk/d50 size 2042608K SUNW,hme0: Using External Transceiver SUNW,hme0: full-duplex Link Up Ok it's not OpenBSD, blame on me. But what i liked is that this machine is working for 2639 days and it stills blink green leds. The harddisk never gave up too. No errors on dmesg. It's a Netra T1 machine, running our internal DNS server. I think we'll replace it when it dies ;) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new_guy a icrit : I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks It is not the size of your uptime that matters, it is what you do with it. Gilles
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Now *that* is nuts! Not upgrading IOS every other day that is... On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:25:13AM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote: Okai, here's my $0.02 on the subject: http://systemnet.no/ios-uptime.jpg /Pete On 29 Oct 2008, at 18:49, guilherme m. schroeder wrote: Hi, Uptimes sucks. Here's the biggest i've ever seen in the company i work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a SunOS optg998 5.6 Generic_105181-26 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi- cEngine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uptime 3:40pm up 2639 day(s), 13:50, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ date Wed Oct 29 15:45:24 BRST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ psrinfo -v Status of processor 0 as of: 10/29/08 15:41:07 Processor has been on-line since 08/08/01 00:50:54. The sparc processor operates at 440 MHz, and has a sparc floating point processor. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg | tail -5 SUNW,hme0: Using External Transceiver SUNW,hme0: 100 Mbps half-duplex Link Up dump on /dev/md/dsk/d50 size 2042608K SUNW,hme0: Using External Transceiver SUNW,hme0: full-duplex Link Up Ok it's not OpenBSD, blame on me. But what i liked is that this machine is working for 2639 days and it stills blink green leds. The harddisk never gave up too. No errors on dmesg. It's a Netra T1 machine, running our internal DNS server. I think we'll replace it when it dies ;) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new_guy a icrit : I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks It is not the size of your uptime that matters, it is what you do with it. Gilles
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Marco Peereboom wrote: Now *that* is nuts! Not upgrading IOS every other day that is... What about having the greatest downtime ? Means running windows ? Nope, sorry, just not having the computer plugged ... Ain't that great ? ;)
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new_guy schrieb: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks Hmm, what about 180-190 days uptime max? Afaik you need to reboot your OpenBSD when you upgrade in May and November... guido
Re: Longest Uptime?
new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? 7:52AM up 6134 days, 16:36, 3 users, load averages: 0.52, 0.47, 0.43 http://www.blahonga.org/~art/diffs/epenis-enlargement.20060210 //art
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Guido Tschakert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, what about 180-190 days uptime max? Afaik you need to reboot your OpenBSD when you upgrade in May and November... guido Just hope an important kernel update doesn't come by within those six months. ;)
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new_guy a icrit : I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks It is not the size of your uptime that matters, it is what you do with it. Gilles
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Hi, Uptimes sucks. Here's the biggest i've ever seen in the company i work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a SunOS optg998 5.6 Generic_105181-26 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-cEngine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uptime 3:40pm up 2639 day(s), 13:50, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ date Wed Oct 29 15:45:24 BRST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ psrinfo -v Status of processor 0 as of: 10/29/08 15:41:07 Processor has been on-line since 08/08/01 00:50:54. The sparc processor operates at 440 MHz, and has a sparc floating point processor. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg | tail -5 SUNW,hme0: Using External Transceiver SUNW,hme0: 100 Mbps half-duplex Link Up dump on /dev/md/dsk/d50 size 2042608K SUNW,hme0: Using External Transceiver SUNW,hme0: full-duplex Link Up Ok it's not OpenBSD, blame on me. But what i liked is that this machine is working for 2639 days and it stills blink green leds. The harddisk never gave up too. No errors on dmesg. It's a Netra T1 machine, running our internal DNS server. I think we'll replace it when it dies ;) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new_guy a icrit : I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks It is not the size of your uptime that matters, it is what you do with it. Gilles
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM, guilherme m. schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok it's not OpenBSD, blame on me. But what i liked is that this machine is working for 2639 days and it stills blink green leds. The We bought 2 machines (together). Expensive ones. After putting them in, my peon walks around looking at them. One had a green blinking power led. All is well. The other had a red blinking power led. Peon went nuts looking in the documentation, etc etc. Diagnostics and everything seems to indicate the system is working. Called support up. After a while, they finally figured out what was the problem. The vendor neglected to spec the color of the power led, and had sourced it from 2 different factories. So, one factory put in a green led, and the other put in a red one. I have since made it my life's mission to tell every single one of their reps that in a data center, you only want to see green blinking lights, not red blinking lights. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
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2008/10/29 Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] new_guy a icrit : I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks It is not the size of your uptime that matters, it is what you do with it. Nice One :) Gilles http://www.crice.org
Longest Uptime?
I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Longest-Uptime--tp20219082p20219082.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Longest Uptime?
On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:54 AM, new_guy wrote: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? When I built a NAT gateway for home some five years ago (On OpenBSD 3.4), it could go on for more than 580 days without rebooting (though it didn't act as a public mail server), after which point I had a power outage and decided anyway to apply updates more diligently given the hassle it is to upgrade / reinstall a box all the way to the latest version when you let more than one version pass. :) -- Stephane LAPIE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +81 (0)42 319 5164
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, new_guy wrote: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across What is your point? Dogs live way longer than that. Just put one in front of your hosting provider and you should be safe for about 15 years. Nice things about dogs is that they don't need rebooting. -- Antoine
Re: Longest Uptime?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:54:12PM -0700, new_guy wrote: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? I think the final word on this was pronounced (perhaps predictably) by Artur Grabowski. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116792821815901w=2 See especially the link in the foregoing message: http://www.blahonga.org/~art/diffs/epenis-enlargement.20060210 -wb
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:54 PM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Longest-Uptime--tp20219082p20219082.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Hmm, yeah sure I'll bite. The longest I've seen that I still have a record of (screen shot of the uptime command) was a machine I installed as a firewall for a very important mail server. Please note, I was not in charge of maintaining it, otherwise it would not have reached this uptime, but it was over two years. As far as I could tell (I got onto the box once in a blue moon) it was not hacked, but seeing as all it did was run pf, and only allowed ssh from 2 IP addresses (both I controlled, and were firewalled themselves), that doesn't seem extraordinary. I will type out the uptime/uname command as in the picture: $ uptime 10:54AM up 745 days, 22:36, 0 users, load averages: 0.13, 0.09, 0.08 $ uname -a OpenBSD bassfishing 3.1 GENERIC#0 i386 $ As far as uptimes I don't have records of, a friend of mine has worked on old systems that weren't rebooted because they were afraid it would not boot back up again. One of them pre-internet, I believe it did some financial stuff. However, no proof there. -- Jason
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Jason Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as uptimes I don't have records of I think Art's the final word, but one of the more impressive uptimes I heard about was this vax system in .de or some such. They kept the uptime even across 2 cross-town moves! This was quite a few moons ago. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: Longest Uptime?
On Tuesday 28 October 2008, new_guy wrote: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks We all have embarrassing secrets regarding systems we've failed to properly maintain, but bragging about uptime is just like bragging about the ugliest people you've slept with. Sure, you did it, but that doesn't make it a good idea. (Jon glances lustfully at his ancient but seldom used laptop) -- Jon
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... From a file I sent the output of uptime and date to a while back... bash-2.04$ cat .days 2:08PM up days, 19:28, 2 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.12, 0.08 Fri Mar 23 14:08:50 PDT 2007 Soon after that the UPS my box was connected to at the ISP died and had to be replaced. It's still a stock 2.8 GENERIC#399 i386 system that has seen many attacks but not a break in. It's not a critical system, only my toy box. While the big uptime was fun I now believe in doing my updates/upgrades and rebooting a little more often. C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J.C. Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:30 PM To: new_guy Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Longest Uptime? On Tuesday 28 October 2008, new_guy wrote: I know. Longest uptime is silly, macho, pointless stuff... but I ran across an old SunOS 2.6 box that had been up for 387 days. It had been hacked. The only reason it was not an open mail relay is that /var was full. So, I thought to myself, I bet I could run an OpenBSD box for that amount of time or longer without getting hacked and without doing much to it. Just wondering what's the longest OpenBSD uptime some folks on misc have seen? Thanks We all have embarrassing secrets regarding systems we've failed to properly maintain, but bragging about uptime is just like bragging about the ugliest people you've slept with. Sure, you did it, but that doesn't make it a good idea. (Jon glances lustfully at his ancient but seldom used laptop) -- Jon
