Re: OT: Quad Ethernet cards feedback on OpenBSD
Daniel Ouellet wrote: Sorry for this off topic question. Looking at the archive, SK (Henning love them! (;) is what look likes the best Ethernet cards to use, a few months ago anyway. The network cards are changing so quickly that what was true 6 months ago, may well not be today. For quad, can someone confirmed, deny or offer alternative known to work well before I get 12 of them. Hopefully I may be able to fit them into the Sun X2100, but will see. Also, any issue to run a minimum of 100 VLan on them? I didn't see issue in the archive, so I take it as been no problem! I don't think of any. Any other suggestions is also welcome, I am more concern at the efficiency of the cards as they will be routing and supporting many VLan and PF will in some of the setup use individual VLan firewall configuration, up to 125 in one case. Will see if I can make that work well, not sure of my possible success, but will see... Thanks for your time. Hello, the D-Link Card DFE-580TX works under OpenBSD, but their greatest advantage is that they are cheap (around 100 Euro in Germany). Don't expect to much performance. The are useful if you have to connect a lot of networks (with small traffic) and have not enough pci slots and money ;-) I think you need something with better performance regarding to your setup. guido
Re: OT: Quad Ethernet cards feedback on OpenBSD
The D-Link cards are bad and do not work well under OpenBSD (pre 3.8 I haven't used them with 3.8). You should avoid them. I had two in one firewall and one in another, I replaced them with Intel Pro cards, to get rid of frequent kernel panics. I was planning to try to work on the driver, but the Intel cards just function that well that I think I'm not going to spend time on it. -- Stephan On 17-nov-2005, at 9:00, Guido Tschakert wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: Sorry for this off topic question. Looking at the archive, SK (Henning love them! (;) is what look likes the best Ethernet cards to use, a few months ago anyway. The network cards are changing so quickly that what was true 6 months ago, may well not be today. For quad, can someone confirmed, deny or offer alternative known to work well before I get 12 of them. Hopefully I may be able to fit them into the Sun X2100, but will see. Also, any issue to run a minimum of 100 VLan on them? I didn't see issue in the archive, so I take it as been no problem! I don't think of any. Any other suggestions is also welcome, I am more concern at the efficiency of the cards as they will be routing and supporting many VLan and PF will in some of the setup use individual VLan firewall configuration, up to 125 in one case. Will see if I can make that work well, not sure of my possible success, but will see... Thanks for your time. Hello, the D-Link Card DFE-580TX works under OpenBSD, but their greatest advantage is that they are cheap (around 100 Euro in Germany). Don't expect to much performance. The are useful if you have to connect a lot of networks (with small traffic) and have not enough pci slots and money ;-) I think you need something with better performance regarding to your setup. guido
Re: OT: Quad Ethernet cards feedback on OpenBSD
On 11/17/05, Stephan Leemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The D-Link cards are bad and do not work well under OpenBSD (pre 3.8 I haven't used them with 3.8). You should avoid them. I had two in one firewall and one in another, I replaced them with Intel Pro cards, to get rid of frequent kernel panics. I was planning to try to work on the driver, but the Intel cards just function that well that I think I'm not going to spend time on it. -- Stephan On 17-nov-2005, at 9:00, Guido Tschakert wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: Sorry for this off topic question. Looking at the archive, SK (Henning love them! (;) is what look likes the best Ethernet cards to use, a few months ago anyway. The network cards are changing so quickly that what was true 6 months ago, may well not be today. For quad, can someone confirmed, deny or offer alternative known to work well before I get 12 of them. Hopefully I may be able to fit them into the Sun X2100, but will see. Also, any issue to run a minimum of 100 VLan on them? I didn't see issue in the archive, so I take it as been no problem! I don't think of any. Any other suggestions is also welcome, I am more concern at the efficiency of the cards as they will be routing and supporting many VLan and PF will in some of the setup use individual VLan firewall configuration, up to 125 in one case. Will see if I can make that work well, not sure of my possible success, but will see... Thanks for your time. Hello, the D-Link Card DFE-580TX works under OpenBSD, but their greatest advantage is that they are cheap (around 100 Euro in Germany). Don't expect to much performance. The are useful if you have to connect a lot of networks (with small traffic) and have not enough pci slots and money ;-) I think you need something with better performance regarding to your setup. guido I do not agree, I have 10 or 12 D-Link DGE-530T running 3.7 atleast since CD release time and no issues what so ever, they are attached as sk(4) devices and I couldn't be a happier camper. Though that is most likely due to the chipset, not D-Link as a brand. These cards are very cheap, some 20 euros a pop in here in Sweden. Browse the OpenBSD metastore and/or the manual pages, em(4) and sk(4) should get you started on your quest. -- // Johan
Re: OT: Quad Ethernet cards feedback on OpenBSD
Hi Johan, On 17/11/2005, at 9:48 PM, Johan P. Lindstrvm wrote: The D-Link cards are bad and do not work well under OpenBSD (pre 3.8 I haven't used them with 3.8). You should avoid them. the D-Link Card DFE-580TX works under OpenBSD, but their greatest advantage is that they are cheap (around 100 Euro in Germany). Don't expect to much performance. I do not agree, I have 10 or 12 D-Link DGE-530T running 3.7 atleast since CD release time and no issues what so ever, they are attached as sk(4) devices and I couldn't be a happier camper. Though that is most likely due to the chipset, not D-Link as a brand. These cards are very cheap, some 20 euros a pop in here in Sweden. Browse the OpenBSD metastore and/or the manual pages, em(4) and sk(4) should get you started on your quest. He was talking about the 4 port DFE-580TX, which I have seen other people complain about in the past. Completely different to the DGE-530T. Shane J Pearson
Re: OT: Quad Ethernet cards feedback on OpenBSD
Hi guys, Thanks for the feedback so far. I wish there was more, but just a quick notes, that there is not point of arguing on talking about different cards. Just trying to find the very efficient dual or quad card that can route almost full capacity traffic is really the goal. Having a great card that work for a home setup is well, but not really what I am looking for. This is to pull out Cisco routers with FastEthernet interface and Gb interface in peering points, and to be replace by OpenBSD. So, efficiency and reliability is really the key. If there is very good feedback great, if not, I will just need to tests a few different one and see the results. The good news is that at a minimum, the cards are not thousand of $ each, so testing in the end take time and cost some, but nothing to kill about either. The bad side is that it may affect connectivity and that's not something I wish to do, so the testing needs to be minimal. After all testing with live customers is not nice! (: I think having a card that use less CPU would be great as it's more likely to be more efficient, but will see. Keep the feedback coming, on the list or in private to reduce the noise is fine by me. Thanks Daniel
OT: Quad Ethernet cards feedback on OpenBSD
Sorry for this off topic question. Looking at the archive, SK (Henning love them! (;) is what look likes the best Ethernet cards to use, a few months ago anyway. The network cards are changing so quickly that what was true 6 months ago, may well not be today. For quad, can someone confirmed, deny or offer alternative known to work well before I get 12 of them. Hopefully I may be able to fit them into the Sun X2100, but will see. Also, any issue to run a minimum of 100 VLan on them? I didn't see issue in the archive, so I take it as been no problem! I don't think of any. Any other suggestions is also welcome, I am more concern at the efficiency of the cards as they will be routing and supporting many VLan and PF will in some of the setup use individual VLan firewall configuration, up to 125 in one case. Will see if I can make that work well, not sure of my possible success, but will see... Thanks for your time.
Re: OT: Quad Ethernet cards feedback on OpenBSD
Back in the summer when I was making this same decision, someone had gotten some cards in from a vendor to test out... they were the SK cards and I think they had gotten in a dual and a quad (marvell I am thinking). I ended up going with Intel Pro quads, but since then there has been talk of those not being right anymore. I forget who had the cards... I am looking at getting a few more, so I am interested in the results of this too. On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:13:08 -0500 Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake: Sorry for this off topic question. Looking at the archive, SK (Henning love them! (;) is what look likes the best Ethernet cards to use, a few months ago anyway. The network cards are changing so quickly that what was true 6 months ago, may well not be today. For quad, can someone confirmed, deny or offer alternative known to work well before I get 12 of them. Hopefully I may be able to fit them into the Sun X2100, but will see. Also, any issue to run a minimum of 100 VLan on them? I didn't see issue in the archive, so I take it as been no problem! I don't think of any. Any other suggestions is also welcome, I am more concern at the efficiency of the cards as they will be routing and supporting many VLan and PF will in some of the setup use individual VLan firewall configuration, up to 125 in one case. Will see if I can make that work well, not sure of my possible success, but will see... Thanks for your time. -- Bill Chmura Director of Internet Technology Explosivo ITG Wolcott, CT p: 860.621.8693 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w. http://www.explosivo.com
