Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On 2017-07-20, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > If you make business in Europe, or with people in Europe, then you know about > legal compliance with the Commision's standards, and their pdf and p7m signed > attachments. Similar standards exist in other countries, and they use mime > parts. If your email client cannot read mime parts, you are out of business. > If your email server rejects mime messages, you are out of business. > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 02:46:02AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: | Out of >> curiosity, I just checked what all the fuss is about. It turns out that >> someone reads mail with a non-RFC compliant client, and thus fails to read >> mime parts. Screw it, update your client. | The other problem seemed to be >> with the list archive. It turns out that at least one archive has no problem >> at all (*). If other archives have mime problems, they can update themselves >> or just delete the mail. All of this while large parts of the world consider >> those sending such mails to be spam (after spammers abused trick this to >> evade anti-spam solutions), never to deliver them. Your base64-encoded mime >> parts are braindead, but nobody is really worried: those e-mails will simply >> be ignored by those that might otherwise have had useful replies. Just >> because something is a standard, doesn't mean everybody should do it. There >> are (very many) harmful standards (caused in large part by a lack of >> ax-murderers, I hear). Ch eers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- >[<++>-]<+++.>+++[<-->-]<.>+++[<+ +++>-]<.>++[<>-]<+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/ 1. This is not a business list. 2. I can read the words you write. But it's such a jumbled up mess that it's not worth taking the time to read them. People posting to a technical mailing list, particularly if they're asking for assistance, are expected to follow the standards of that list.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
Rupert Gallagher writes: > If you make business in Europe, or with people in Europe, then you > know about legal compliance with the Commision's standards, and their > pdf and p7m signed attachments. Similar standards exist in other > countries, and they use mime parts. If your email client cannot read > mime parts, you are out of business. If your email server rejects mime > messages, you are out of business. None of which changes the terms of use for this list, which are (from the FAQ): Plain text, 72 characters per line ALlan
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
If you make business in Europe, or with people in Europe, then you know about legal compliance with the Commision's standards, and their pdf and p7m signed attachments. Similar standards exist in other countries, and they use mime parts. If your email client cannot read mime parts, you are out of business. If your email server rejects mime messages, you are out of business. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 02:46:02AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: | Out of > curiosity, I just checked what all the fuss is about. It turns out that > someone reads mail with a non-RFC compliant client, and thus fails to read > mime parts. Screw it, update your client. | The other problem seemed to be > with the list archive. It turns out that at least one archive has no problem > at all (*). If other archives have mime problems, they can update themselves > or just delete the mail. All of this while large parts of the world consider > those sending such mails to be spam (after spammers abused trick this to > evade anti-spam solutions), never to deliver them. Your base64-encoded mime > parts are braindead, but nobody is really worried: those e-mails will simply > be ignored by those that might otherwise have had useful replies. Just > because something is a standard, doesn't mean everybody should do it. There > are (very many) harmful standards (caused in large part by a lack of > ax-murderers, I hear). Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- > >[<++>-]<+++.>+++[<-->-]<.>+++[<+ > +++>-]<.>++[<>-]<+.--.[-] > http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 02:46:02AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: | Out of curiosity, I just checked what all the fuss is about. It turns out that someone reads mail with a non-RFC compliant client, and thus fails to read mime parts. Screw it, update your client. | The other problem seemed to be with the list archive. It turns out that at least one archive has no problem at all (*). If other archives have mime problems, they can update themselves or just delete the mail. All of this while large parts of the world consider those sending such mails to be spam (after spammers abused trick this to evade anti-spam solutions), never to deliver them. Your base64-encoded mime parts are braindead, but nobody is really worried: those e-mails will simply be ignored by those that might otherwise have had useful replies. Just because something is a standard, doesn't mean everybody should do it. There are (very many) harmful standards (caused in large part by a lack of ax-murderers, I hear). Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- >[<++>-]<+++.>+++[<-->-]<.>+++[<+ +++>-]<.>++[<>-]<+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
Out of curiosity, I just checked what all the fuss is about. It turns out that someone reads mail with a non-RFC compliant client, and thus fails to read mime parts. Screw it, update your client. The other problem seemed to be with the list archive. It turns out that at least one archive has no problem at all (*). If other archives have mime problems, they can update themselves or just delete the mail. http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/OT-protonmail-mail-body-td322547.html Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Bryan Steele wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > Hello, > > > It's just Base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding, and it's part of rfc2045. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045#section-6.8 > > So, the problem is on > marc.info side. Moreover, it's working on > mutt and on mail-archive: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg154853.html > > -- > alarig > The mailing lists have very simple rules, messages should be in English, > plain/text and generally not be MIME. Attachments should be avoided and sent > inline, unless accepted by the list. https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html > "ProtonMail" does not meet these requirements, by defalt. It's not just > marc.info archives, I suspect anyone using mail(1) is ignoring all of your > mails. -Bryan.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On 18 July 2017 at 09:29, Eric Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using >> protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the >> list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn >> that feature off. Here is what I see reading on marc.info: >> >> TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp >> bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv >> YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ >> IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg >> bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv >> d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh >> bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t >> YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg >> YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl >> IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg >> Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD >> bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl >> ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN >> VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh >> dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw== > > My primary e-mail address is on protonmail. For testing purposes, I have > sent e-mail from my protonmail account to a number of other accounts and > have never had any problem reading the messages. For example, on this > account I use pine (alpine) to handle my e-mail and have never had a > problem. > Oh, I get it! You can decode base64 in your head and read messages that way. Dang, that's impressive. I know a couple people who know ASCII by memory, but never anyone who can read base64. > Eric > -- --- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
> As things stand, ProtonMail is not a suitable client for writing to this > mailing list. > > Your messages are nearly unreadable. Maybe it should be blocked. Then the users there can tell them to fix it. Would have no downside for me.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > > protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the > > list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn > > that feature off. Here is what I see reading on marc.info: > > > > TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp > > bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv > > YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ > > IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg > > bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv > > d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh > > bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t > > YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg > > YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl > > IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg > > Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD > > bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl > > ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN > > VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh > > dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw== > > My primary e-mail address is on protonmail. For testing purposes, I have > sent e-mail from my protonmail account to a number of other accounts and > have never had any problem reading the messages. For example, on this > account I use pine (alpine) to handle my e-mail and have never had a > problem. If I see a mail which isn't plain text, I delete it. If that means something doesn't get handled, bummer.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the > list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn > that feature off. Here is what I see reading on marc.info: > > TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp > bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv > YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ > IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg > bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv > d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh > bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t > YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg > YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl > IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg > Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD > bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl > ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN > VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh > dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw== My primary e-mail address is on protonmail. For testing purposes, I have sent e-mail from my protonmail account to a number of other accounts and have never had any problem reading the messages. For example, on this account I use pine (alpine) to handle my e-mail and have never had a problem. Eric
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > Hello, > > It's just Base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding, and it's part of rfc2045. > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045#section-6.8 > > So, the problem is on marc.info side. Moreover, it's working on > mutt and on mail-archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg154853.html > > -- > alarig The mailing lists have very simple rules, messages should be in English, plain/text and generally not be MIME. Attachments should be avoided and sent inline, unless accepted by the list. https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html "ProtonMail" does not meet these requirements, by defalt. It's not just marc.info archives, I suspect anyone using mail(1) is ignoring all of your mails. -Bryan.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On 12 July 2017 at 00:37, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the > list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn > that feature off. Here is what I see reading on marc.info: > I agree. I was trying to read this list on the links browser last weekend and I had to skip over many messages because of the base64 encoding issues. Good to know about mail-archive. I'll have to see how that looks on links, though. Thanks!
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On 2017-07-12, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > I top post deliberately, out of sympathy. When you will be as old as I am, > you will find that scrolling a long thread to read a reply it pains your > hand. So, to avoid top posting, you have to scroll twice: to read, and to > write. I people top post by default, it would make things easier to everybody. > On wrapping, protonmail does it by iself, and is a real problem. There is no > user setting to solve this problem. It is a bug. > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile As things stand, ProtonMail is not a suitable client for writing to this mailing list. Your messages are nearly unreadable.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > I top post deliberately, out of sympathy. When you will be as old as I > am, you will find that scrolling a long thread to read a reply it > pains your hand. So, to avoid top posting, you have to scroll twice: > to read, and to write. I people top post by default, it would make > things easier to everybody. My MUA does this: > [ 8 more citation lines. Click/Enter to show. ] Problem solved.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
I top post deliberately, out of sympathy. When you will be as old as I am, you will find that scrolling a long thread to read a reply it pains your hand. So, to avoid top posting, you have to scroll twice: to read, and to write. I people top post by default, it would make things easier to everybody. On wrapping, protonmail does it by iself, and is a real problem. There is no user setting to solve this problem. It is a bug. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Theo Buehler wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:54:24AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > +1 > Alright, the base64 transfer encoding thing is in the RFC... However, nowhere > does the RFC specify that you should top-post and strip all the newlines: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > > On mer. 12 juil. > 10:37:59 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I preffer to keep it calm, > but some people on the list are using > protonmail and their mails are > impossible to read directly on the > list. I think they are destroying the > list, maybe they should turn > that feature off. Here is what I see reading > on marc.info: > > > TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp > > bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv > > YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ > > IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg > > bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv > > d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh > > bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t > > YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg > > YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl > > IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg > > Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD > > bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl > > ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN > > VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh > > dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw== Hello, It’s just > Base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding, and it’s part of rfc2045. > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045#section-6.8 So, the problem is on > marc.info side. Moreover, it’s working on mutt and on mail-archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg154853.html -- alarig > @swordarmor.fr>
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Can you read me? > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile Yes, I can read what you wrote, but on Gmail only. I didn't know that there is a RFC for this, I thought there is a feature offered by protonmail. Bytheway, they look interesting to me. The decoding part falls on marc.info then. Thank you and I'm sorry for this.
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:54:24AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > +1 Alright, the base64 transfer encoding thing is in the RFC... However, nowhere does the RFC specify that you should top-post and strip all the newlines: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > > On mer. 12 juil. 10:37:59 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I preffer > > to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > protonmail and > > their mails are impossible to read directly on the > list. I think they are > > destroying the list, maybe they should turn > that feature off. Here is > > what I see reading on marc.info: > > > > TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp > > > bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv > > > YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ > > > IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg > > > bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv > > > d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh > > > bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t > > > YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg > > > YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl > > > IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg > > > Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD > > > bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl > > > ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN > > > VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh > > > dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw== Hello, It’s > > just Base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding, and it’s part of rfc2045. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045#section-6.8 So, the problem is on > > marc.info side. Moreover, it’s working on mutt and on mail-archive: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg154853.html -- alarig
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
+1 On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > On mer. 12 juil. 10:37:59 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I preffer > to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > protonmail and their > mails are impossible to read directly on the > list. I think they are > destroying the list, maybe they should turn > that feature off. Here is what > I see reading on marc.info: > > > TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp > > bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv > > YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ > > IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg > > bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv > > d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh > > bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t > > YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg > > YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl > > IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg > > Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD > > bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl > > ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN > > VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh > > dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw== Hello, It’s just > Base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding, and it’s part of rfc2045. > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045#section-6.8 So, the problem is on > marc.info side. Moreover, it’s working on mutt and on mail-archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg154853.html -- alarig
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
Can you read me? Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the list. I > think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn that feature off. > Here is what I see reading on marc.info: > TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp > bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv > YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ > IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg > bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv > d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh > bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t > YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg > YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl > IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg > Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD > bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl > ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN > VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh > dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw==
Re: OT: protonmail mail body
On mer. 12 juil. 10:37:59 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the > list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn > that feature off. Here is what I see reading on marc.info: > > TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp > bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv > YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ > IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg > bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv > d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh > bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t > YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg > YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl > IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg > Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD > bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl > ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN > VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh > dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw== Hello, It’s just Base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding, and it’s part of rfc2045. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045#section-6.8 So, the problem is on marc.info side. Moreover, it’s working on mutt and on mail-archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg154853.html -- alarig signature.asc Description: PGP signature
OT: protonmail mail body
Hello, I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn that feature off. Here is what I see reading on marc.info: TmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgb2YgVk5DPwpTZW50IGZyb20gUHJvdG9uTWFpbCBNb2Jp bGUKCk9uIFR1ZSwgSnVsIDExLCAyMDE3IGF0IDg6MzkgUE0sIE5pZWxzIEtv YnNjaMOkdHpraSA8bmllbHNAa29ic2NoYWV0emtpLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cgo+ IEhpLCBJIGFtIHBvbmRlcmluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIE9wZW5CU0Qgb24gbXkg bWFpbiBtYWNoaW5lLiBCdXQgSSBqdXN0IGZvdW5kIGEgcG9zc2libGUgc2hv d3N0b3BwZXI6IGZhbWlseSByZW1vdGUgc3VwcG9ydCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBh bSB1c2luZyBUZWFtdmlld2VyIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgZnJvbSBteSBMaW51eC1t YWNoaW5lIHRvIHRoZSBmYW1pbHktTWFjLiBOb3cgSSBhbSBzZWFyY2hpbmcg YSBzaW1pbGFyIGVhc3kgd2F5IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgZnJvbSBhIHBvc3NpYmxl IE9wZW5CU0QtbWFjaGluZS4gSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IHNvZnR3YXJlIHRoYXQg Y291bGQgZG8gdGhhdD8gQXNraW5nIHRoZW0gZm9yIHRoZWlyIElQIG9yIGlD bG91ZC1ob3N0bmFtZSB3b3VsZCBhbHJlYWR5IGJlIHRvbyBjb21wbGljYXRl ZC4gV2hhdCBhcmUgeW91IHVzaW5nIGluIHN1Y2ggY2FzZXM/IElzIGEgUUVN VS1WTSBwZXJmb3JtYW50IGVub3VnaCBmb3Igc3VjaCBhIHRoaW5nIChJIGhh dmUgYSBUaGlua3BhZCBUNDYwIHdpdGggYSBTa3lsYWtlLWk1KSBOaWVscw==