Re: Recommended NIC: Gbit Realtek or 100Mbit 3Com/Intel

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 realtek gigE is easily better than 3com, but then, what is not?
 I'd look for cheapish sk(4)s. there are some. they are pretty darn good.
 

funny, most of the cheapish sks i've run into are under the 3com/marvell label

the prices of the realtek gigabit cards are great, but re can't do jumbo frames
large enough for a full 8k nfs packet.  also, i'm jaded..the only 8169 card i 
ever bought stopped working right after i rebooted the machine, just two
months after the card was put into service.  i figured the savings weren't
real at that point, this keeps it from even being a respectable 100m card!
(to be fair, the failure was probably the cheap ass board and not the realtek
chip itself)  used sk and em cards on ebay are pretty cheap, and you can find
new pull versions from various web sites that specialize in new pull/
refurb parts.



Re: Recommended NIC: Gbit Realtek or 100Mbit 3Com/Intel

2006-05-05 Thread Henning Brauer
* Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-05 10:40]:
 Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  realtek gigE is easily better than 3com, but then, what is not?
  I'd look for cheapish sk(4)s. there are some. they are pretty darn good.
 funny, most of the cheapish sks i've run into are under the 3com/marvell label

yup, seems like after the xl(4) disaster they gave up designing 
ethernet chips :)

 the prices of the realtek gigabit cards are great, but re can't do jumbo 
 frames
 large enough for a full 8k nfs packet.

and to be fair one should mention that jumbo is kinda useless until 
there is some kind of link-level mtu negotiation.

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Re: Recommended NIC: Gbit Realtek or 100Mbit 3Com/Intel

2006-05-03 Thread Henning Brauer
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-03 00:44]:
 Hello,
 I'm thinking about playing with pfsync/carp a bit and for this I will need to 
 buy few additional NICs. From various notes it seems Gbit Realtek chips might 
 not be that crappy as their 100Mbit counterprarts (except 8139c+) and the 
 cards with them seem to even be cheaper than 100Mbit cards from 3Com and 
 Intel. Now the question is what's better for this deployment/playing? Since 
 I'd like to learn I'm not in the possition to solve various strange or 
 instable hardware issues, hence reluctant to give Realtek a try (e.g. U.S. 
 Robotics USR997902). Is there anybody here using Realtek 8169(S) based NIC 
 and satified with them?

realtek gigE is easily better than 3com, but then, what is not?
I'd look for cheapish sk(4)s. there are some. they are pretty darn good.

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Recommended NIC: Gbit Realtek or 100Mbit 3Com/Intel

2006-05-02 Thread
Hello,
I'm thinking about playing with pfsync/carp a bit and for this I will need to 
buy few additional NICs. From various notes it seems Gbit Realtek chips might 
not be that crappy as their 100Mbit counterprarts (except 8139c+) and the cards 
with them seem to even be cheaper than 100Mbit cards from 3Com and Intel. Now 
the question is what's better for this deployment/playing? Since I'd like to 
learn I'm not in the possition to solve various strange or instable 
hardware issues, hence reluctant to give Realtek a try (e.g. U.S. Robotics 
USR997902). Is there anybody here using Realtek 8169(S) based NIC and satified 
with them?
Thanks,
Karel