out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each
and create a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility,
is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially
there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and create a
Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list
and create a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility,
is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net-)BSD compatible
userland, an eighth
On 2012-11-16, at 6:42 AM, Erich Dollansky
erichfreebsdl...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:52:48 +0100
Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se wrote:
On 2012-11-16 12:48, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Hub- FreeBSD free...@hub.org
wrote:
On 2012-11-16, at 5:52 AM, Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se wrote:
On 2012-11-16 12:48, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Hub- FreeBSD free...@hub.org wrote:
Actually, according to what we are tracking at http://bsdstats.org, there
are currently *8*:
PC-BSD
FreeBSD
robin.bjork...@gmail.com
wrote:
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four
largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of
each and create a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your
On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest
BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and create
a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
.tsooJ
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On 2012/11/13 7:14 AM, Mike. wrote:
If your goal is to please as many people as possible, then
compromise is the way to go.
If your goal is to produce outstanding software then, well, you're
gonna have to piss off a few people.
Could not agree
- Then came the Unix wars, where ATT sued BSDI (a commercial variant
that no longer exists) over perceived copyright infringement. The
free BSDs weren't really directly involved, but the suit would have
been just as relevant, and people were worried.
This was the time that Linux
to merge the four largest
BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and
create a Unified BSD?
Kind Regards,
Robin Bjorklin
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was assuming you were going of the core of the system
(i.e. how much source if any is used in kernel space).
Which brings be back to what i was talking about in an earlier post. If you
want to make a unified BSD, it would be easier to create a new BSD which
at the core (i.e. memory management, IPC, I/O, etc
there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and create a
Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility,
is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net
and
create a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility,
is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net-)BSD compatible
userland, an eighth.
-is
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 01:04:27PM +0100, Lars Engels wrote:
MirBSD / MirOS is dead:
http://www.freshbsd.org/search?project=mirbsd
Last commit: 2011-08-29 23:00:00
I'm no Mir* co-worker, so take this with a grain of salt. But on
general principles:
a) I question the date itself - that's
Yes, your bat crap crazy :-)
All of these variants inherit from the same unified BSD 4.4 base code as far
as I know. So years ago there were reasons that groups wanted to spilt off
and focus on specific goals. Some of these goals are mutually exclusive.
These BSD variants are not really
crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four
largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of
each and create a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
Also, you could
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Ignatios Souvatzis
ignat...@cs.uni-bonn.de wrote:
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility,
is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net-)BSD compatible
The Unified BSD idea is as crazy as the decision to split this
discussion on multiple lists. I've quit reading this, but I got the
Nick's insights, nice and touching as always.
need a
unified BSD; BSD is already unified in the ways that matter. Open source and
meritocracy see to that.
Tim
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largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each
and create a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth.
At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
Nice. And it's not April the first yet.
and create
a Unified BSD?
Kind Regards,
Robin Bjorklin
Model yourself after Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino who was involved in Net,
Open, and Free BSD.
If you are interested in generating linux-like buzz advocate
hardware manufacturers and industry types to fund (with money)
development of drivers
wrote:
On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com
wrote:
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four
largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each
and create a Unified BSD?
You'd end up creating a fifth
, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote:
On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest BSD
variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and create a
Unified BSD
would get in under one roof?
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four
largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of
each and create a Unified BSD?
Kind Regards,
Robin Bjorklin
competitive shape if all developers would get in under one roof?
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest
BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and
create a Unified BSD?
Kind Regards,
Robin Bjorklin
in speed?, portability?, security?, market
share?).
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest
BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and
create a Unified BSD?
Doesn't that apply for Linux too?
and pieces out of each and
create a Unified BSD?
I wholeheartedly support your right to give it a shot and see what
happens. Maybe you can break the Winux mindset. The BSD license begs
you to take your dream and run with it. I hope you succeed, but only on
my terms, of course. :)
Your theory has
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Robin Björklin
robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest
BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and
create a Unified BSD?
you are not crazy for thinking
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Robin Björklin
robin.bjork...@gmail.comwrote:
Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest
BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and
create a Unified BSD?
Ain't that what OpenBSD is though - the best
If there's to be any hope of a rational discussion, we need to remember to CC
each list as the OP did.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012, Tony ableton...@gmail.com wrote:
Ain't that what OpenBSD is though - the best from all worlds?
Especially with comments like these..
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey g...@freebsd.org wrote:
- Then DragonflyBSD split from FreeBSD. Mainly personality driven
AFAICT. Again, this doesn't imply any criticism of the founder of
the new project.
There were some very valid technical reasons at the time as
You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that the Linux
world is unified. It isn't.
The big difference between Linux and the BSDs is that it alienates
itself from the BSDs and many other projects by using a viral,
business-hostile license. The BSDs can draw on one another's work
and create a Unified BSD?
Maybe not, but there are many reasons it won't happen. One is the
structure of the individual projects, and another is that the current
system works well. If you only have one kernel, you don't have people
implementing different solutions for a problem, so you don't find
years of work to start again
on a unified BSD.
It is a cool thought, one i have thought about.
Which is why i reckon your far more likely to get support for a new BSD
system that takes the foundation of one of the existing BSD's and create a
project that aims for compatibility between the major
On 11/12/2012 at 5:20 PM Nick Holland wrote:
|On 11/12/12 15:37, Robin Björklin wrote:
|
| [snip]
}
|compromise. That is almost always an evil word.
|
| [snip]
|
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Agreement abounds.
Compromise takes two good ideas and results in a mediocre idea that
is in the average of those
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