Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Christoph R. Murauer]

> On 27 November 2015 at 12:31:32, Ville Valkonen 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your good hints:)
>
> some laptop pc have this problem :<

 [ ... ]

> manula is almost good. but, some same problem issues didn't share on.
> mailing list is good means. but latest machine problems are stacked
> and
> no improvement.

I am no developer but have you already posted a dmesg (inline in the
email ?).

See http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html section Include important
information.

*The dmesg(8) tells us exactly what is IN your machine, not what
stickers are on the outside.*

How to get a dmesg - simple read the FAQ 4.10.

> who makes driver or good improvement. but beginer and newest user
> didn't
> know how to get answer.

I am also a new user and have no problems to get a answer, as long as
you ask the right questions and, provided the needed infrmations.

> dmesg is no answer. who get kernel panic... "how to get debuging..."
> (these todo couldn't get answer...)

dmesg would be no answer for you - but for developers it helps. Kernel
panic, debugging - start reading FAQ 7.6 about serial consoles and
http://www.openbsd.org/report.html section How to create a problem
report.

> some mailing list responses are like "read man" "man 4 ..." :<
> and get no answer...

Sure, there are people out there who wrote the FAQ, there are people
out there who wrote the text for the mailinglist page ... and, there
are users out there, which are simple not interested to read existing
informations.

If you ask a question like, I have problem X and readed manual page Y
but I simple don't understand it - I think, you will get a answer. If
you expect, that others do your work - you will be very disappointed
about what you get.

> if "no answer", say "no answer" or "I don't know".
> problem must store and announcement.

See the above.

> Just my complaint.
>
> Theo de raadt is greatest programer. I love him.

I think, he will be very happy if you read the FAQ and provide the
minimum informations which are needed to answer your questions.

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[freeunix]

On 27 November 2015 at 12:31:32, Ville Valkonen  
wrote:


Thanks for your good hints:)

some laptop pc have this problem :<

into BIOS setup. disable wifi and any section.
it'll be this problem has come:<

Lenovo G50-80, Fujitsu LifeBook, and any

Now. Just, I check up run OpenBSD on any user's laptop PC.
HP machines too.

to some people.
OpenBSD is greatest Operating System. but OpenBSD have some problems.(no 
security hole)

manula is almost good. but, some same problem issues didn't share on.
mailing list is good means. but latest machine problems are stacked and 
no improvement.


who makes driver or good improvement. but beginer and newest user didn't 
know how to get answer.

dmesg is no answer. who get kernel panic... "how to get debuging..."
(these todo couldn't get answer...)

some mailing list responses are like "read man" "man 4 ..." :<
and get no answer...

if "no answer", say "no answer" or "I don't know".
problem must store and announcement.

Just my complaint.

Theo de raadt is greatest programer. I love him.

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Ville Valkonen]

On 26 November 2015 at 15:26,  wrote:

> I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK)
> "OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0"
>
> 1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0
> boot: It's fine.
> 2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0
> boot: can't boot!
>
> anyone don't need boot from USB3.0?
>

Hi,

do you happen to have an HP machine? Many of those have BIOS issues with
USB boot devices.

--
Regards,
Ville Valkonen

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Tati Chevron]

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 02:31:32PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote:

On 26 November 2015 at 15:26,  wrote:


I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK)
"OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0"

1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0
boot: It's fine.
2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0
boot: can't boot!

anyone don't need boot from USB3.0?



Hi,

do you happen to have an HP machine?


Didn't you read the attached dmesg?

--
Tati Chevron
Perl and FORTRAN specialist.
SWABSIT development and migration department.
http://www.swabsit.com

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Ville Valkonen]

gmail didn't show any attachment.
On Nov 27, 2015 3:20 PM, "Tati Chevron"  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 02:31:32PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote:
>
>> On 26 November 2015 at 15:26,  wrote:
>>
>> I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK)
>>> "OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0"
>>>
>>> 1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0
>>> boot: It's fine.
>>> 2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0
>>> boot: can't boot!
>>>
>>> anyone don't need boot from USB3.0?
>>>
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do you happen to have an HP machine?
>>
>
> Didn't you read the attached dmesg?
>
> --
> Tati Chevron
> Perl and FORTRAN specialist.
> SWABSIT development and migration department.
> http://www.swabsit.com

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Tati Chevron]

Didn't you read the attached dmesg?

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 04:44:11PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote:

gmail didn't show any attachment.


That's funny, I didn't receive it either.

It's almost as if there wasn't a dmesg attached, isn't it?

--
Tati Chevron
Perl and FORTRAN specialist.
SWABSIT development and migration department.
http://www.swabsit.com

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Christoph R. Murauer]

See http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html

*The only mailing list that allows attachments is the ports list, they
will be removed from messages on the other mailing lists.*


> gmail didn't show any attachment.
> On Nov 27, 2015 3:20 PM, "Tati Chevron"  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 02:31:32PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote:
>>
>>> On 26 November 2015 at 15:26,  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK)
 "OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0"

 1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0
 boot: It's fine.
 2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0
 boot: can't boot!

 anyone don't need boot from USB3.0?


>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> do you happen to have an HP machine?
>>>
>>
>> Didn't you read the attached dmesg?
>>
>> --
>> Tati Chevron
>> Perl and FORTRAN specialist.
>> SWABSIT development and migration department.
>> http://www.swabsit.com

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Dragos Ruiu]

It might also be a bios setting issue.  (Many BIOS have settings for which
systems are enabled by the BIOS code)
Try enabling "Legacy USB Support" or similar.

Cheers,
--dr

-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Nick Holland
Sent: November 26, 2015 3:59 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

On 11/26/15 08:25, freeu...@ruggedinbox.com wrote:
> I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK)
> "OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0"
> 
> 1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0
> boot: It's fine.
> 2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0
> boot: can't boot!
> 
> anyone don't need boot from USB3.0?

LOTS of details missing here, but if you are saying that under whatever
mysterious circumstance you can not get the USB3 device to boot it doesn't
try to boot at all, this is not an OpenBSD issue.

OpenBSD's boot process is dependent upon the system BIOS until the kernel is
loaded.  So, if there is no attempt to boot, you have a BIOS issue.  I've
certainly seen this.  The answer is a BIOS upgrade that probably doesn't
exist, because many manufacturers barely test this feature.  Nothing OpenBSD
can do to fix it if the HW won't grab and run the boot code.

Nick.

can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[freeunix]

I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK)
"OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0"

1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0
boot: It's fine.
2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0
boot: can't boot!

anyone don't need boot from USB3.0?

Re: can't boot from USB3.0 flash memory

[Nick Holland]

On 11/26/15 08:25, freeu...@ruggedinbox.com wrote:
> I have USB3.0 flash memory.(SANDISK)
> "OpenBSD 5.8 amd64/i386 on USB3.0"
> 
> 1.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB2.0/1.0
> boot: It's fine.
> 2.USB3.0 flash memory connect to USB3.0
> boot: can't boot!
> 
> anyone don't need boot from USB3.0?

LOTS of details missing here, but if you are saying that under whatever
mysterious circumstance you can not get the USB3 device to boot it
doesn't try to boot at all, this is not an OpenBSD issue.

OpenBSD's boot process is dependent upon the system BIOS until the
kernel is loaded.  So, if there is no attempt to boot, you have a BIOS
issue.  I've certainly seen this.  The answer is a BIOS upgrade that
probably doesn't exist, because many manufacturers barely test this
feature.  Nothing OpenBSD can do to fix it if the HW won't grab and run
the boot code.

Nick.