Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Daniel Ouellet
OK, Here is the source of the problem. The cache file generated by webazolver is the source of the problem. Based on the information of the software webalizer, as this: Cached DNS addresses have a TTL (time to live) of 3 days. This may be changed at compile time by editing the dns_resolv.h

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: OK, Here is the source of the problem. The cache file generated by webazolver is the source of the problem. Based on the information of the software webalizer, as this: Cached DNS addresses have a TTL (time to live) of 3 days. This may be

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 02:15:57PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: OK, Here is the source of the problem. The cache file generated by webazolver is the source of the problem. Based on the information of the software webalizer, as this:

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 02:15:57PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: You are wrong in thinking sparse files are a problem. Having sparse files quite a nifty feature, I would say. Are we talking about webazolver or OpenBSD? I'd argue that relying

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Daniel Ouellet
You are wrong in thinking sparse files are a problem. Having sparse files quite a nifty feature, I would say. Are we talking about webazolver or OpenBSD? I'd argue that relying on the OS handling sparse files this way instead of handling your own log data in an efficient way *is* a problem,

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:49:24PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 02:15:57PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: You are wrong in thinking sparse files are a problem. Having sparse files quite a nifty feature, I would say.

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 02:36:44PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: [...] But having a file that is let say 1MB of valid data that grow very quickly to 4 and 6GB quickly and takes time to rsync between servers were in one instance fill the fill system and create other problem. (: I wouldn't

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386 (Source solved)

2006-01-17 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi all, First let me start with my apology to some of you for having waisted your time! As much as this was/is interesting and puzzling to me and that I am trying obviously to get my hands around this issue and usage of sparse files, the big picture of it, is obviously something missing in

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Since the bsize and fsize differ, it is expected that the used kbytes of the file systems differ. Also, the inode table size will not be the same. Not sure that I would agree

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-16 Thread Ted Unangst
run du on both filesystems and compare the results.

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-16 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Ted Unangst wrote: run du on both filesystems and compare the results. OK, just because I am curious more then think there is a problem, and because I am still puzzle from what Otto and Ted said, here is what I did and the answer to question from Otto as well. - Both system run 3.8. (www1

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-16 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Otto Moerbeek wrote: Now I agree that the difference you are seeing is larger than I would expect. I would run a ls -laR or du -k on the filesystems and diff the results to see if the contents are realy the same. My bet is that you'll discover some files that are not on the system with a smaller

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-16 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Just a bit more information on this. As I couldn't understand if that was an AMD64 issue as illogical as that might be, I decided to put that to the test. So, I pull out an other AMD64 server and it's running 3.8, same fsize and bsize, one drive, etc. Use rsync to mirror the content and the

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Just a bit more information on this. As I couldn't understand if that was an AMD64 issue as illogical as that might be, I decided to put that to the test. So, I pull out an other AMD64 server and it's running 3.8, same fsize and bsize, one drive,

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-16 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Just a bit more information on this. As I couldn't understand if that was an AMD64 issue as illogical as that might be, I decided to put that to the test. So, I pull out an other AMD64 server and it's running 3.8, same fsize and

df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-15 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Here is something I can't put my hands around to well and I don't really understand why that is, other then may be the fize of each mount point not process properly on AMD64, but that's just an idea. See lower below for why I think it might be the case. In any case, I would welcome a logical

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-15 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: [snip lots of talk by a confused person] 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a:52409763 4.2BSD 2048 16384 328 # Cyl 0*- 519 b: 8388576524160swap

Re: df -h stats for same file systems display different result son AMD64 then on i386

2006-01-15 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Daniel Ouellet wrote: [snip lots of talk by a confused person] 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a:52409763 4.2BSD 2048 16384 328 # Cyl 0*- 519 b: 8388576524160