Re: Typo in faq4.html
Hi Robin, robin@tilde.institute wrote on Sat, Nov 04, 2023 at 01:18:47PM +: > In faq4.html, the link to OpenBSD's firmware directory is not working. > Indeed it is http://firmware.openbsd.org instead of > http://firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/ as shown in fw_update(8)'s > manpage. Thank you for reporting the dead link and for mentioning that the manual page provides a working link. > Here is a proposed diff. Committed with minimal tweaks. It is online now at: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#WifiOnly Yours, Ingo > Index: faq4.html > === > RCS file: /cvs/www/faq/faq4.html,v > retrieving revision 1.555 > diff -u -p -r1.555 faq4.html > --- faq4.html 16 Oct 2023 12:52:20 - 1.555 > +++ faq4.html 4 Nov 2023 13:02:43 - > @@ -512,7 +512,7 @@ a bootable install image with the necess > If you don't have an existing OpenBSD system with internet access, use > another computer to download the appropriate file from > > -http://firmware.openbsd.org;>firmware.openbsd.org and put > + href="http://firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/;>firmware.openbsd.org/firmware/ > and put > it on a USB drive that's readable by OpenBSD. > Then, on the OpenBSD machine, > https://man.openbsd.org/mount;>mount(8) the drive and use
faq4.html multibooting grub
I believe the FAQ4 section on multibooting is placing all Grub2 based distributions into the same bucket incorrectly. Debian and its derivatives utilize a different path to BOOTX64.EFI and are amendable to multibooting with OpenBSD. See attached patch for details. -- J. Scott Heppler --- faq4.html Wed Jan 26 10:17:32 2022 +++ faq4_new.html Wed Jan 26 10:42:04 2022 @@ -572,8 +572,15 @@ https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/;>rEFInd is reported to usually work. -https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/;>GRUB is reported to usually -fail. +https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/;>GRUB has issues when +multibooting Fedora, Redhat, and their derivatives. +OpenBSD uses the same /boot/efi/BOOT/EFI/BOOTX64.EFI location as the previosly +listed Linux distributions and will overwrite it on installation. It is +possible to move BOOTX64.EFI to another location but this causes OpenBSD's +kernel relinking to fail. +Debian, and derivatives, utilize /boot/efi/EFI/debian/grubx64.efi which avoids +the conflict. + In either case, you are completely on your own. Windows
Re: minor fix in faq4.html
On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 11:50:49AM +0200, Alex Greif wrote: > just found this one. > fixed, thanks > thanks, Alex. > > > Index: faq/faq4.html > === > RCS file: /cvs/www/faq/faq4.html,v > retrieving revision 1.460 > diff -u -p -u -r1.460 faq4.html > --- faq/faq4.html 27 Apr 2016 22:53:06 -0000 1.460 > +++ faq/faq4.html 1 Jun 2016 09:47:01 - > @@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ > > OpenBSD has long been respected for its simple and straightforward > installation process, which is very consistent across all platforms. > -You are urged to read the platform-specific INSTALL document in the > +You are urged to read the platform-specific INSTALL document > on the CD-ROM or mirror sites. > For example, i386/INSTALL.i386 or sparc/INSTALL.sparc.
minor fix in faq4.html
just found this one. thanks, Alex. Index: faq/faq4.html === RCS file: /cvs/www/faq/faq4.html,v retrieving revision 1.460 diff -u -p -u -r1.460 faq4.html --- faq/faq4.html 27 Apr 2016 22:53:06 - 1.460 +++ faq/faq4.html 1 Jun 2016 09:47:01 - @@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ OpenBSD has long been respected for its simple and straightforward installation process, which is very consistent across all platforms. -You are urged to read the platform-specific INSTALL document in the +You are urged to read the platform-specific INSTALL document on the CD-ROM or mirror sites. For example, i386/INSTALL.i386 or sparc/INSTALL.sparc.
Re: faq4.html
On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 10:19:41AM -0400, Rob Pierce wrote: > It looks like the cdrkit web site has been down for a while. > > Point to the debian package instead, or maybe delete altogether? Thanks. I decided to shorten the whole subsubsection quite a bit more. It's not as if burning an iso to a CD is already a piece of black magic from the ancient past.
faq4.html
It looks like the cdrkit web site has been down for a while. Point to the debian package instead, or maybe delete altogether? Rob Index: faq4.html === RCS file: /cvs/www/faq/faq4.html,v retrieving revision 1.439 diff -u -p -r1.439 faq4.html --- faq4.html 1 Apr 2016 15:25:47 - 1.439 +++ faq4.html 2 Apr 2016 14:15:51 - @@ -266,7 +266,7 @@ In OpenBSD, you can create a CD from an Modern Windows and Macintosh systems can directly create CDs from ISO images. On Linux or other Unix-like systems, use applications such as -http://www.cdrkit.org/;>cdrkit. +https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/cdrkit;>cdrkit. 4.3.3 - Floppies
Re: Small patch for faq4.html
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 02:10:00PM -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 10:10:28AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: A small patch to make sure the reader understands the faq4.html is also the place to read when upgrading. Do you really think after comparing the OpenBSD developers to the RIAA, that any of them haven't kill filed you? That was meant as a joke. I have already ordered 3 OBSD t-shirts and 2 hoodies. But why should I give money to someone with whom I can't communicate anymore? I have ordered, because perceived OpenBSD as cool at that time. Now I don't see OpenBSD as cool anymore. The motivation for buying more is away. I see the developers find details of the form I use and then perceive it as a personal attack and terminate the communication permanently. I would expect them to discuss the content instead, using arguments supporting their opinion. It has been scientifically shown that an attempt to interpret emotions from an e-mail results in a completely random result. I am considering switching back to Gentoo on next major problem because the illusion of friendliness holding me to OpenBSD is away. CL
Re: Small patch for faq4.html
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 02:10:00PM -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 10:10:28AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: A small patch to make sure the reader understands the faq4.html is also the place to read when upgrading. Do you really think after comparing the OpenBSD developers to the RIAA, that any of them haven't kill filed you? That was meant as a joke. I have already ordered 3 OBSD t-shirts and 2 hoodies. But why should I give money to someone with whom I can't communicate anymore? I have ordered, because perceived OpenBSD as cool at that time. Now I don't see OpenBSD as cool anymore. The motivation for buying more is away. I see the developers find details of the form I use and then perceive it as a personal attack and terminate the communication permanently. I would expect them to discuss the content instead, using arguments supporting their opinion. I (and presuambly most other developers) do not like wasting time having endless discussions. This is summarized as shut up and hack. I also love the phrase code talks. If you propose changes to the website or code, send diffs and we'll see if we like them. It has been scientifically shown that an attempt to interpret emotions from an e-mail results in a completely random result. I am considering switching back to Gentoo on next major problem because the illusion of friendliness holding me to OpenBSD is away. I don't remember a developer being unfriendly to you, while considering the tone of your emails there probably was reason to be. But if friendliness is a required feature of your OS and/or OS developers, then indeed OpenBSD might not be for you. -Otto
Re: Small patch for faq4.html
On 22/11/2006, at 10:27 PM, Karel Kulhavy wrote: I have ordered, because perceived OpenBSD as cool at that time. Now I don't see OpenBSD as cool anymore. The motivation for buying more is away. I am considering switching back to Gentoo on next major problem because the illusion of friendliness holding me to OpenBSD is away. Cya.
Re: Small patch for faq4.html
Karel Kulhavy a icrit : On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 02:10:00PM -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 10:10:28AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: A small patch to make sure the reader understands the faq4.html is also the place to read when upgrading. Do you really think after comparing the OpenBSD developers to the RIAA, that any of them haven't kill filed you? That was meant as a joke. I have already ordered 3 OBSD t-shirts and 2 hoodies. But why should I give money to someone with whom I can't communicate anymore? I have ordered, because perceived OpenBSD as cool at that time. Now I don't see OpenBSD as cool anymore. The motivation for buying more is away. I see the developers find details of the form I use and then perceive it as a personal attack and terminate the communication permanently. I would expect them to discuss the content instead, using arguments supporting their opinion. It has been scientifically shown that an attempt to interpret emotions from an e-mail results in a completely random result. I am considering switching back to Gentoo on next major problem because the illusion of friendliness holding me to OpenBSD is away. CL Hi Karel, I read carefully all your emails, and all the answers to your email. There was no unfriendliness inside. Everyone read and answer you, in a good way (which is better than being ignored). There is something to do, when you try to enter a community, first is to read and listen, then understand how it is working. OpenBSD community seems to be unfriendly at first sight, but if you read carefully everything, they are the opposite of unfriendly. They work together, like a big family, answering quickly as they can do to request, and they make a very good job. I don't event know how they can do this job which seems to be so difficult for me, but may be, one day, i will be able to answer myself to some technical discussion. So before you go to Gentoo, juste take time to read an article written by Mr Nick Holland (i am quoting you again Nick ;) ): http://www.holland-consulting.net/tech/ocep/index.html#svcactive It's a very old article, but i think there is many important things inside that are always available. Read carefully the OpenBSD philosophy part, Nick is not the Philosophier of the project, but he is right on a lot of thing. So, first i would like to excuse myself for my poor english. I am a french guy, and i know there is many grammatical abuse in my mail, and i know how it is eye hurting for english people to read me. Regards, and thank to everyone who is trying to make our OpenBSD better and better each days. May be one day, i will have sufficient technical level to bring my own stone to the project (but for the moment, i read the man pages ;) ). Nolan
