Re: missing packages for SPARC

2015-01-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 07:37:39PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > That's a good idea. My SS20 which has 2 HDDs, CD and floppy, has a fan in > between, it looks it is wired properly and has an attachment, so it looks > "original" for certain hotter configurations. IIRC, that's one of the newer SS

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2015-01-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-01-13, Jeremy Evans wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Riccardo Mottola < > riccardo.mott...@libero.it> wrote: > >> do we really need bash to build ruby? and... why ruby for subversion? not >> counting shells one ends up having perl, python, tcl and ruby! what a mess. > > > You do

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2015-01-13 Thread Jeremy Evans
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Riccardo Mottola < riccardo.mott...@libero.it> wrote: > do we really need bash to build ruby? and... why ruby for subversion? not > counting shells one ends up having perl, python, tcl and ruby! what a mess. You do need bash to build ruby 2.0, but not any earli

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2015-01-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Hugo, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: Yeah, I got blocked with "bash" dependent ports (ruby-2.0 for subversion). what is happening for you? I have temporarily given up building on my SS20: all modules I have are indeed unstable, both the 50Mhz and 40Mhz SuperSparcs just segfault at will, as Miod

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2015-01-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Hugo, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: Yeah, I got blocked with "bash" dependent ports (ruby-2.0 for subversion). what is happening for you? I have temporarily given up building on my SS20: all modules I have are indeed unstable, both the 50Mhz and 40Mhz SuperSparcs just segfault at will, as Miod

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-06 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-12-04, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: > I put a new Seagate 73GB SCA drive in my SparcStation 20 (150MHz/224MB). > It works but I can only use part of it. I don't hardware to try it, but another option might be a sata ssd and scsi bridge (acard have various options in a 3.5" drive chassis). They

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Florenz Kley wrote: On Dec 3, 2014, at 21:01, patrick keshishian wrote: how do you guys deal with disk space with sparc machines? NFS? with a hacksaw :-) http://www.well.com/~fl/frankendisk/ single-ended SCSI disks work quite well in the pizza box design, but they run hotter than the old

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Peter Hessler wrote: On 2014 Dec 04 (Thu) at 07:11:48 + (+), John Long wrote: :How much time is necessary to build packages during and for a release? How :much time for snapshots? And how often does this need to be done? I'm trying :to get an idea how much uptime you would need if so

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-04 Thread John Long
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 10:43:29AM +0100, Peter Hessler wrote: > On 2014 Dec 04 (Thu) at 07:11:48 + (+), John Long wrote: > :How much time is necessary to build packages during and for a release? How > :much time for snapshots? And how often does this need to be done? I'm trying > :to get a

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-04 Thread John Long
I had forgotten OpenBSD has SPARC and SPARC64 ports. I don't have any SPARC boxes, sorry for missing the point here. If SPARC64 builds become an issue I hope I can help in some way. /jl -- ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) Powered by Lemote Fuloong against HTML e-mail X Loongson MIPS and OpenBSD

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-04 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2014 Dec 04 (Thu) at 07:11:48 + (+), John Long wrote: :How much time is necessary to build packages during and for a release? How :much time for snapshots? And how often does this need to be done? I'm trying :to get an idea how much uptime you would need if somebody who is able to :take

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-04 Thread Florenz Kley
On Dec 3, 2014, at 21:01, patrick keshishian wrote: > how do you guys deal with disk space with sparc machines? > NFS? with a hacksaw :-) http://www.well.com/~fl/frankendisk/ single-ended SCSI disks work quite well in the pizza box design, but they run hotter than the old ones. One disk is not a

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-04 Thread John Long
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 04:36:43PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2014-12-02, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > > I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC > > machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was > > the mirror, but they are mis

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
>dev wrote: >> It would be a waste of effort to look at anything previous to a >> Sun Fire V890 or any UltraSPARC IV based server. There are very >> few out there running Solaris any more and only hobby types have >> SPARC anywhere else. >The first thing you forget is the fun factor. People devote

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
>> > > You are speaking out of turn, basically insulting people who want >> > > to make sure that older architectures do work. The Sun Fire V890 >> > > and Niagara machines are not sparc architecture. They are >> > > sparc64. >> > > >> > >> > Not sure where the anger is coming from. Regardless,

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 09:46:04PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > patrick keshishian: > > > how do you guys deal with disk space with sparc machines? > > NFS? > > Distfiles and packages on NFS, obj on local disk. That works well. But I got tired of that especialy since I was down to a 1G d

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 04:42:52PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC > > machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was the >

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, dev wrote: It would be a waste of effort to look at anything previous to a Sun Fire V890 or any UltraSPARC IV based server. There are very few out there running Solaris any more and only hobby types have SPARC anywhere else. The first thing you forget is the fun factor. People devote time i

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread System Administrator
On 3 Dec 2014 at 18:36, dev wrote: > > > > You are speaking out of turn, basically insulting people who > want > > > > to make sure that older architectures do work. The Sun Fire > V890 > > > > and Niagara machines are not sparc architecture. They are > > > > sparc64. > > > > > > > > > > Not s

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread dev
> > > > > I will dust off my ss20 this weekend see if it powers up. > > > > > > > A SparcStation 20 is a relic for historical reference only. A cool > > item and if it powers up I would be surprised. However it won't > > make any more sense than to have a 1976 Ford truck as a daily > > driver. >

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread dev
> > > You are speaking out of turn, basically insulting people who want > > > to make sure that older architectures do work. The Sun Fire V890 > > > and Niagara machines are not sparc architecture. They are > > > sparc64. > > > > > > > Not sure where the anger is coming from. Regardless, there

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 05:54:14PM -0500, dev wrote: > > > > We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete > > > > hardware, run by few people, with pitiful "best effort" package > > > > builds happening each release and with luck once between. They > > > > slowly sink under t

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Larkin
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 05:54:14PM -0500, dev wrote: > > > We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete > > > hardware, run by few people, with pitiful "best effort" package > > > builds happening each release and with luck once between. They > > > slowly sink under the accumul

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > > > I will dust off my ss20 this weekend see if it powers up. > > > > > > > > > > A SparcStation 20 is a relic for historical reference only. A cool > > > item and if it powers up I would be surprised. However it won't > > > make any more sense than to have a 1976 Ford truck as a daily > > >

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > > We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete > > > hardware, run by few people, with pitiful "best effort" package > > > builds happening each release and with luck once between. They > > > slowly sink under the accumulating bitrot that nobody cares to fix, > > > but at t

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread dev
> > We keep having this tail of zombie architectures. Long obsolete > > hardware, run by few people, with pitiful "best effort" package > > builds happening each release and with luck once between. They > > slowly sink under the accumulating bitrot that nobody cares to fix, > > but at the same ti

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
patrick keshishian: > how do you guys deal with disk space with sparc machines? > NFS? Distfiles and packages on NFS, obj on local disk. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread patrick keshishian
On 12/3/14, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2014-12-02, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > >> I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC >> machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was >> the mirror, but they are missing on the master ftp too. >> I kn

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2014-12-02, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC > machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was > the mirror, but they are missing on the master ftp too. > I know that some packages might not build on sparc

Re: missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-03 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC > machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was the > mirror, but they are missing on the master ftp too. > I know that some p

missing packages for SPARC

2014-12-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I was pkg_add'ing some essential packages on a freshly installed SPARC machine. I noticed that several packages are missing. I thought it was the mirror, but they are missing on the master ftp too. I know that some packages might not build on sparc or do not have sense on that platform, ho