Re: mojibake

2012-07-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ian, ropers wrote on Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 05:23:07PM +0200: > (Not sure who of you best to talk to; Regarding conference presentations, the author. All conference presentations are different and don't usually follow the www.openbsd.org site style, if such a thing even exists. > Andres Perera

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Tomas Bodzar
stem even as patch was sent before two years, but Czech keyboard is available in X via setxkbmap which is fine for me. As it's UTF-8 including files I'm doing that from gtk+ vim as no other tool from base support UTF-8. > >> So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake g

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Ted Unangst
ers. I think that complaint, as pointed out, is bogus. Only broken browsers are broken. > +Csikó - Foal. - Photo: Adam Tomkó @flickr (CC) gods, no. html entities are the last thing I want to see. > So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in > Ingo's pres

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Dave Anderson
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: >Dave Anderson writes: >> >So, in summary, the options are: >> > >> >Use HTML escapes everywhere. IMO, highly impractical. >> > >> >Use any encoding you wish, and set a meta tag when appropriate. This is >> >basically what we have now. (The front pages

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Dave Anderson writes: > >So, in summary, the options are: > > > >Use HTML escapes everywhere. IMO, highly impractical. > > > >Use any encoding you wish, and set a meta tag when appropriate. This is > >basically what we have now. (The front pages of /, /de/, /fr/ all use > >ISO-8859-1; /cs/ uses UTF

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Dave Anderson
hat it means adding escapes *everywhere*. Can you >imagine writing http://www.openbsd.org/cs/ in anything but native UTF-8? >At some point we have to pick an encoding and stick with it. > >> So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in >> Ingo's presentatio

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Andres Perera
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: >> So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in >> Ingo's presentation, because the character encoding isn't specified >> but defaults to UTF-8 in modern browsers, while the page is ac

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Alexander Hall
ent regardless of declared character encoding. The disadvantage is that it means adding escapes *everywhere*. Can you imagine writing http://www.openbsd.org/cs/ in anything but native UTF-8? At some point we have to pick an encoding and stick with it. So again, the complaint was that there was mo

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
g pure ASCII plus HTML escapes in a page is that it displays the correct content regardless of declared character encoding. The disadvantage is that it means adding escapes *everywhere*. Can you imagine writing http://www.openbsd.org/cs/ in anything but native UTF-8? At some point we have to pick an e

mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread ropers
e parameter, and people had all kinds of responses, mostly suggesting that there was a much, much bigger problem than merely minor mojibake gobbledygook in Ingo's presentation. So I've now just gone through ALL the presentations on http://www.openbsd.org/papers/ , and I've determined