Re: new kind of info organizer, on OpenBSD: OneModel
On 01/28/16 02:41, Craig Skinner wrote: > Have a dig about /usr/ports/productivity/ > > I use taskwarrior, which has tasksh. Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'm presenting OneModel in the wrong way. Its vision is much bigger than task management, but I'm not sure how to best make that clear to the right audience. *The vision is this: mankind's knowledge is not well-organized as a whole. I want to see us to fix that, so I have created a plan* which has seemed worth trying, that goes something like this: 1) Create a simple tool for a knowledge base, that uses the necessary principles of organizing atomic *knowledge as an object model* (not mere todos, or predefined anything, or even very-efficient piles of text), and use it as my own organizer [DONE FOR NOW] 2) Pitch it as a GTD thing, since it can also do that, to the kind of people who use org-mode (or taskwarrior), to get some traction and build a community [JUST INITIATING THIS, THOUGH OTHER PRODUCTS ARE MORE MATURE FOR THIS NARROW PART OF THE WHOLE PURPOSE.] 3) Take it to the next levels of broad computable knowledge-related collaboration which include: 3a) cloud support 3b) allow easily attaching code to classes of these structured entities (or nodes in the graph) for computation and custom extensions of the base product: adds very powerful capabilities. I can largely see the code & implementation for this, just need time/bandwidth (money). 3c) sharing OM data (or knowledge) including custom code across instances: letting one OM instance subscribe to changes, link to, or copy things from another model. Making it so easy that people start sharing data between their instances (sort of like gopher + evernote + wikipedia, only computable & more powerful & flexible, and Free, under individual or group control). This requires some work that also seems very exciting to do. Remember these are models of knowledge, like wiki content in a *computable* graph database, but without the limitations of using human language as the primary structure for data on which to do computation. This will take work and time. So to fund dev time on it there's the possibility of selling binaries, or re-sell amazon db storage facilities, or other Free-software business models as discussed elsewhere. But this works most easily if it can be compelling enough in its current form, to build a community of devs and/or users around the Free code and compete with existing tools that have many devs and time in them already. I think OM could be great for some users, but... H. 4) Other work like user friendliness for non-nerds, mobile, make it known to a much wider audience, etc. So a current hurdle seems to be to build a community or validation base, for the vision, who can use the current feature set, while the hopefully more broadly impactful stuff gets developed. Thanks again for your earlier comment! The invitation for feedback, suggestions, or to read more about OM & its vision (like what I mean by "computable"), try it out, & participate on http://onemodel.org site mailing lists also remains. :) Best regards, Luke
Re: new kind of info organizer, on OpenBSD: OneModel
Hi Luke, On 2016-01-27 Wed 18:20 PM |, luke call wrote: > > If you've ever used emacs org-mode, to-do list programs or the like, > this might be of interest. Have a dig about /usr/ports/productivity/ I use taskwarrior, which has tasksh. Cool. -- http://www.taskwarrior.org/
Re: new kind of info organizer, on OpenBSD: OneModel
On 2016 Jan 28 (Thu) at 08:56:18 -0700 (-0700), luke call wrote: :On 01/28/16 02:41, Craig Skinner wrote: :> Have a dig about /usr/ports/productivity/ :> :> I use taskwarrior, which has tasksh. : :Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'm presenting OneModel in the wrong :way. Its vision is much bigger than task management, but I'm not sure :how to best make that clear to the right audience. : This is very offtopic. If you have a port you would like to submit, please generate one and send it to ports@. Please do not use OpenBSD mailing lists for advertising your product. -- Oh, wow! Look at the moon!
new kind of info organizer, on OpenBSD: OneModel
Short version: I have carefully tested OpenBSD installation instructions for an extremely flexible personal organizer program. It does things differently, is text-mode/keyboard only (for now), doesn't require X, and is very efficient to use. It doesn't have pretty knobs and buttons but is very good at what it does. Details on what it is now, what it is not, and plans for future are at http://onemodel.org, especially under the About link and sublinks. Detailed version: If you've ever used emacs org-mode, to-do list programs or the like, this might be of interest. It is Free. It flexibly, easily treats knowledge as data in an object network, instead of just as piles of words, and is physically very efficient to navigate and use (keyboard only). I've tested carefully and used it for some months on OpenBSD. I think it could be useful to some here. It is the best personal organizer I have ever used: I wrote it to suit myself (& hopefully others: that's what I'm trying to find out). It is oriented to those who like the keyboard & can read the screen, and who want to record notes and manipulate them *fast*, in simple or arbitrarily complex structures: basically I try to break knowledge down to an atomic level-- relationships and attributes, aka an object model--as a side effect of simply using the system. Everything one needs to know (or nearly so) is shown on the screen, and ... I hope some of you love it. There's a free .jar file download, or source code and complete instructions at github. The source is AGPL (no offense I hope; I want any mods to come back, for all the work I've put in). I didn't want to package it (put it into ports) yet, until I can see if reaction and interest warrant that More descriptive info & screen shots are at http://www.onemodel.org . Look under "About", "what it is today", "future", through to the FAQs if you're really interested in the thinking behind it. Feedback (or flames?) welcome: this is a learning process and I hope to make it as useful to others as I can. I invite discussion at the OneModel.org mailing lists (under the Community link) to avoid the topic becoming annoying on this list. Best regards, Luke A. Call -- A Free, fast personal organizer for touch typists: if you ever liked to-do list programs, collapsible outlines, or emacs org-mode, you might love this: http://www.onemodel.org (no mobile support yet). Things I'd like to say to more people: (updated 2016-1-9) http://www.onemodel.org/1/e-9223372036854618449.html .
