Re: offtopic: political correctness
On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 07:34:31PM -0400, dan mclaughlin wrote: this just reminded me of something from MANY years ago (15+). someone was complaining about the jive port (which still exists, ha!) for PC reasons, talking about litigation or some such. i loved Theo's response, which was run thru jive, and said something similar to People talkin' don't be scribblin' no code. (i think his sentiment holds here too!) Well, you could write a variation on jive that talks south-african english. Would probably be shockful with priviledge seperation and various other mispellings Theo has graced us with over the years.
Re: offtopic: political correctness
Quoting Marko Cupa? marko.cu...@mimar.rs: I am reading 2nd edition of Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition and can't but notice paragraph Confidentiality on XXX page of Introduction: ---cut-here--- Confidentiality This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. That Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate should not get your credit card number. ---cut-here--- This sound quite nazi to me. Should Western European kiddie porn syndicate be able to get my credit card number, as opposed to Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate, which should not? Or does that mean that kiddie porn syndicate exists only in Eastern Europe, but not in - let's say - New Zealand or Canada? Feel free to ask to change Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate by Mexican kidnapping drug cartel, I'm Mexican and would not mind at all. -- Best regards, Jorge Lopez. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
offtopic: political correctness
Hi, I am reading 2nd edition of Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition and can't but notice paragraph Confidentiality on XXX page of Introduction: ---cut-here--- Confidentiality This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. That Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate should not get your credit card number. ---cut-here--- This sound quite nazi to me. Should Western European kiddie porn syndicate be able to get my credit card number, as opposed to Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate, which should not? Or does that mean that kiddie porn syndicate exists only in Eastern Europe, but not in - let's say - New Zealand or Canada? I guess this was intended to be a joke, but in my opinion it sucks. -- Marko Cupać https://www.mimar.rs
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This seams racism to me. I leave in Eastern Europe and the autor thinks that all us here are doing kiddie porn. I want to dissapoint him, we are also building medical centers, schools, playgrounds. We will be glad to welcome the author of the book to us and show him the real life here, not the bullshit he sees on TV (pardon mon france). Regards, Traian. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Jorge Gabriel Lopez Paramount jorge.lopez.paramo...@googlemail.com wrote: Quoting Marko Cupa? marko.cu...@mimar.rs: I am reading 2nd edition of Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition and can't but notice paragraph Confidentiality on XXX page of Introduction: ---cut-here--- Confidentiality This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. That Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate should not get your credit card number. ---cut-here--- This sound quite nazi to me. Should Western European kiddie porn syndicate be able to get my credit card number, as opposed to Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate, which should not? Or does that mean that kiddie porn syndicate exists only in Eastern Europe, but not in - let's say - New Zealand or Canada? Feel free to ask to change Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate by Mexican kidnapping drug cartel, I'm Mexican and would not mind at all. -- Best regards, Jorge Lopez. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: offtopic: political correctness
Any other problems? Am 08.05.15 um 16:30 schrieb Marko Cupać: Hi, I am reading 2nd edition of Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition and can't but notice paragraph Confidentiality on XXX page of Introduction: ---cut-here--- Confidentiality This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. That Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate should not get your credit card number. ---cut-here--- This sound quite nazi to me. Should Western European kiddie porn syndicate be able to get my credit card number, as opposed to Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate, which should not? Or does that mean that kiddie porn syndicate exists only in Eastern Europe, but not in - let's say - New Zealand or Canada? I guess this was intended to be a joke, but in my opinion it sucks. -- Andre Ruppert
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On Fri, 8 May 2015 18:35:13 +0300 Traian Ciobanu wrote: all If he had used all or always I would agree that it was racist but he didn't? Also if it had no basis in fact then it could be racist but apparently it has atleast some. Tasteful or not is another question. Is the TAKEN film also racist? I know eastern europeans can be very nice, so don't think that it affects peoples opinion much if at all, certainly not mine anyway.
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Feel free to ask to change Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate by Mexican kidnapping drug cartel, I'm Mexican and would not mind at all. Lmao 2015-05-08 11:35 GMT-04:00 Traian Ciobanu lordz...@gmail.com: This seams racism to me. I leave in Eastern Europe and the autor thinks that all us here are doing kiddie porn. I want to dissapoint him, we are also building medical centers, schools, playgrounds. We will be glad to welcome the author of the book to us and show him the real life here, not the bullshit he sees on TV (pardon mon france). Regards, Traian. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Jorge Gabriel Lopez Paramount jorge.lopez.paramo...@googlemail.com wrote: Quoting Marko Cupa? marko.cu...@mimar.rs: I am reading 2nd edition of Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition and can't but notice paragraph Confidentiality on XXX page of Introduction: ---cut-here--- Confidentiality This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. That Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate should not get your credit card number. ---cut-here--- This sound quite nazi to me. Should Western European kiddie porn syndicate be able to get my credit card number, as opposed to Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate, which should not? Or does that mean that kiddie porn syndicate exists only in Eastern Europe, but not in - let's say - New Zealand or Canada? Feel free to ask to change Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate by Mexican kidnapping drug cartel, I'm Mexican and would not mind at all. -- Best regards, Jorge Lopez. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: offtopic: political correctness
On 08-05-2015 15:38, Steve Litt wrote: Yes, it sucks, but no more than calling it nazi. The day Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition kills millions of Jews, Gypsies, and retarded people, while invading Poland and rocketing London, it will earn the epithet nazi. Until then, using that epithet simply dilutes what the real nazis did. You proved your own point by saying retarded people. Which is a term that has not been (or should not) used for decades now. Just to prove that is hard to please everyone. A joke is a joke. Sometimes it makes a hard subject easier to swallow (as it is with cryptography). Perhaps *that* one was misplaced. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini
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On 08-05-2015 11:38, Nick Holland wrote: In that case, you may wish to avoid reading the FAQ, the man pages, certainly not the commit message log. Come on. Those are hilarious! You probably don't want to talk to the developers. Some at least. The only thing PC about OpenBSD is ... a couple target platforms. :) I'm remembering someone that was offended by smtpd manual page(IIRC). Even sent a patch to fix it and everything! Nick. (making note to offend more in the future) Oh no! Please don't! Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini
Re: offtopic: political correctness
On 05/08/15 10:29, Marko Cupać wrote: ... I guess this was intended to be a joke, but in my opinion it sucks. In that case, you may wish to avoid reading the FAQ, the man pages, certainly not the commit message log. You probably don't want to talk to the developers. The only thing PC about OpenBSD is ... a couple target platforms. :) Nick. (making note to offend more in the future)
Re: offtopic: political correctness
On 8 May 2015 at 07:30, Marko Cupać marko.cu...@mimar.rs wrote: Hi, I am reading 2nd edition of Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition and can't but notice paragraph Confidentiality on XXX page of Introduction: ---cut-here--- Confidentiality This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. That Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate should not get your credit card number. ---cut-here--- This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. No one should get your credit card number but they do because you're not using OpenBSD yet. I guess this was intended to be a joke, but in my opinion it sucks. Will Windows users be insulted? -- Marko Cupać https://www.mimar.rs -- --- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si
Re: offtopic: political correctness
On Fri, 8 May 2015 16:30:15 +0200 Marko Cupać marko.cu...@mimar.rs wrote: Hi, I am reading 2nd edition of Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition and can't but notice paragraph Confidentiality on XXX page of Introduction: ---cut-here--- Confidentiality This means that secret data should remain secret. Your private infor- mation must not get into the public eye. That Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate should not get your credit card number. ---cut-here--- This sound quite nazi to me. Should Western European kiddie porn syndicate be able to get my credit card number, as opposed to Eastern European kiddie porn syndicate, which should not? Or does that mean that kiddie porn syndicate exists only in Eastern Europe, but not in - let's say - New Zealand or Canada? I guess this was intended to be a joke, but in my opinion it sucks. Yes, it sucks, but no more than calling it nazi. The day Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition kills millions of Jews, Gypsies, and retarded people, while invading Poland and rocketing London, it will earn the epithet nazi. Until then, using that epithet simply dilutes what the real nazis did. But yes, equating kiddie porn with Eastern Europe is subcontent wide character assassination, and is wrong. SteveT Steve Litt May 2015 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz
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On Friday, May 8, 2015, Mihai Popescu mih...@gmail.com wrote: Contact the author of this book. If I'm nost mistaken, the OpenBSD project is not affiliated in any way with the book or the author. I think he can explain the best his remarks to you. This. /noise /thread /care --
Re: offtopic: political correctness
I guess this was intended to be a joke, but in my opinion it sucks. So don't laugh. -- Maurits Fennis
Re: offtopic: political correctness
Man, No one have any kind of sense of humor these days!!! OpenBSD mailing list is not really for the faint of hart, why should any books for OpenBSD be any different! Just switch to any politically correct Linux flavors and move on... At a minimum he wrote a book to try to help users, I am sure it's way more then you have done so far...
Re: offtopic: political correctness
On 5/8/2015 7:34 PM, dan mclaughlin wrote: i actually tried to find this in the archives a while back but couldn't (i thought it would be a good addition to mg/theo.c, i still remember it all these years later with a smile.) http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/9912/msg00128.html
Re: offtopic: political correctness
On Fri, 08 May 2015 16:26:09 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: On 08-05-2015 11:38, Nick Holland wrote: In that case, you may wish to avoid reading the FAQ, the man pages, certainly not the commit message log. Come on. Those are hilarious! You probably don't want to talk to the developers. Some at least. The only thing PC about OpenBSD is ... a couple target platforms. :) I'm remembering someone that was offended by smtpd manual page(IIRC). Even sent a patch to fix it and everything! Nick. (making note to offend more in the future) Oh no! Please don't! Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini this just reminded me of something from MANY years ago (15+). someone was complaining about the jive port (which still exists, ha!) for PC reasons, talking about litigation or some such. i loved Theo's response, which was run thru jive, and said something similar to People talkin' don't be scribblin' no code. (i think his sentiment holds here too!) i actually tried to find this in the archives a while back but couldn't (i thought it would be a good addition to mg/theo.c, i still remember it all these years later with a smile.)
