Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-13 Thread Marcus Andree
snip Almost every RAID system out there handles the sudden removal of a disk from the system pretty well. Why? Because it's EASY to create that failure mode. Problem is, in 25 years in this business, I don't recall having seen a hard disk fall out of a computer as a mode of actual failure

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-12 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Nick, I highly appreciate your detailed report about your experiences with RAID systems. That was cool. Surely I don't expect any miracles from RAID anymore. The current plan is to move to a ramdisk based system to get rid of disk access afap, and to use carp to setup a fallback host.

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
Stuart Henderson wrote: With IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics), the controller is *on the drive*. A failing drive/controller can do all sorts of nasty things to the host system. So you mean I should not use IDE disks (PATA or SATA), because Raidframe cannot support a failsafe operation

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-11 Thread Nick Holland
Harald Dunkel wrote: Stuart Henderson wrote: With IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics), the controller is *on the drive*. A failing drive/controller can do all sorts of nasty things to the host system. So you mean I should not use IDE disks (PATA or SATA), because Raidframe cannot

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-08 Thread Olivier Cherrier
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:33:40PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems we have some misunderstanding here. I am talking about future events. Of course I don't know in advance which disk fails when. If a disk dies, then its the job of raidframe to detect this event, to mark the disk as bad,

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-08-08, Olivier Cherrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't it be related to the IDE bus? What for noise can a deffective disk on an IDE controller generate when it is failling. With IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics), the controller is *on the drive*. A failing drive/controller can do

question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I've got a configuration issue with Raidframe: Our gateway/firewall runs a raid1 for the system disk. No swap partition. Recently one of the raid disks (wd0) showed some problem: Aug 2 17:22:35 fw01 /bsd: wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout Aug 2 17:53:52 fw01 /bsd: type: ata Aug 2

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-07 Thread Ariane van der Steldt
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:27:24AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: I've got a configuration issue with Raidframe: Our gateway/firewall runs a raid1 for the system disk. No swap partition. Recently one of the raid disks (wd0) showed some problem: Aug 2 17:22:35 fw01 /bsd: wd0(pciide0:0:0):

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
Ariane van der Steldt wrote: Your best bet is to replace the disk. 30 minutes wait time seems a bit odd though. I have a similar situation where one disk is having problems, requiring the disk to restart, but that only takes approx. a minute. You can mark the disk as bad and replace it before

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-07 Thread Ariane van der Steldt
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:41:59AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: Ariane van der Steldt wrote: Your best bet is to replace the disk. 30 minutes wait time seems a bit odd though. I have a similar situation where one disk is having problems, requiring the disk to restart, but that only takes

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-07 Thread nothingness
Harald Dunkel wrote: Ariane van der Steldt wrote: Your best bet is to replace the disk. 30 minutes wait time seems a bit odd though. I have a similar situation where one disk is having problems, requiring the disk to restart, but that only takes approx. a minute. You can mark the disk as bad

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
nothingness wrote: Presumably this was after a reboot? If so, the trick is to move the 'raidctl -P all' line from /etc/rc to /etc/rc.local and add a '' so it runs as a background process. There was no reboot involved. Before this event the machine was running for weeks, and it is still

Re: question about raidframe getting stuck

2008-08-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
Ariane van der Steldt wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:41:59AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: Ariane van der Steldt wrote: Your best bet is to replace the disk. 30 minutes wait time seems a bit odd though. I have a similar situation where one disk is having problems, requiring the disk to