Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-16 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
Hi all. as i already wrote, thinkpad is x and t series... other one are not worth looking at, Its my own personal opinion without exact technical background. but had opportunities to see many of these after 5-8 years of use. only X and T series looked good if we do not mind scratches and crashes

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread Richard Thornton
I am glad that stinkpad argument is settled . How about discussing OpenBSD? I find that codeblocks core dumps every time . Would it dump less on Asus? Cause it dumps a lot on my Lenovo VM. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015, 8:48 PM Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: On Wed, Jul

Acer Aspire V3-112 was Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 02:39:50PM +, Peter J. Philipp wrote: Hi, I'm considering buying a new netbook (currently I have an October 2012 Acer Aspire One). If at all I'd like to stay with Acer but not necessarily. I'm worried about UEFI secure boot on these netbooks. Is there any Acer

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread lists
From my experience, Of how many years and portable systems? thinkpads have poor hardware quality. You must have been buying the cheap models which are.. well cheap regardless of maker and assembly process. Are you having electrical engineering degree or are speaking for the sake of

Re: Acer Aspire V3-112 was Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On 07/15/15 18:28, li...@wrant.com wrote: I'm considering buying a new netbook... So you asked what not to buy. You got some good and solid advice from knowledgeable people here regarding what works great including OpenBSD coverage. I'm really happy with my old netbook though. Guess what

Re: Acer Aspire V3-112 was Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread lists
I'm really happy with my old netbook though. Guess what everything worked on it except wifi. So I put trust into the same brand, and it has bitten me. X won't work, the intel drm driver doesn't work. I got more luck since I checked the technical specs before purchase. Everything worked on

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
Can you take your fight elsewhere?

Re: Acer Aspire V3-112 was Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread Ax0n
FWIW, about 5 years ago, my wife bought me a Toshiba NB305 that came with Windows 7 Starter, which I tried to use. I'm okay with Windows when I need to use it, but Starter edition might as well be a Windows kernel with IE and almost no customization available. I do need Windows to program my ham

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread lists
You not even refuted my primary point. Your primary point is interjecting threads with contradictory comments for the opportunity to snap at somebody which really irritates all sides. Also you oppose qualified advise many would want to hear with your own suggestion. This may confuse somebody

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread L.R. D.S.
Yes, you need engineering degree, and you need to spend some time in a PCB factory, and common sense.   And you need to read service manuals for hardware that you know before you buy it and start whining around or annoy everyone with your dissatisfaction towards something. So, ok, I need to

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-07-14, L.R. D.S. arrowscr...@mail.com wrote: Why not suggest a Athlon-64, instead of a intel, with tons of microcode messing everything? Err what...?

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread Артур Истомин
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01:19PM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: You not even refuted my primary point. Your primary point is interjecting threads with contradictory comments for the opportunity to snap at somebody which really irritates all sides. Also you oppose qualified advise many

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread lists
Why are you advocating for this company, dude? You are again looking to contradict somebody, but that's pointless. I don't need a egineering degree to know when a hardware is shit. Yes, you need engineering degree, and you need to spend some time in a PCB factory, and common sense. And you

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread L.R. D.S.
Are you having electrical engineering degree or are speaking for the sake of contradicting somebody? Why are you advocating for this company, dude? We all know that this company never cooperate with open source projects, and now you came here and to defend them? This is even in Wizard of OS

Re: Acer Aspire V3-112 was Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-15 Thread lists
I'm considering buying a new netbook... So you asked what not to buy. You got some good and solid advice from knowledgeable people here regarding what works great including OpenBSD coverage. Then you informed us all you disregarded that completely for your own choice and this more and more

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-14 Thread L.R. D.S.
From my experience, thinkpads have poor hardware quality. If you already disassembled it, you know what I'm talking about. Why not suggest a Athlon-64, instead of a intel, with tons of microcode messing everything? The Acer Aspire AS5532-5535 seems good.

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Adam Thompson
On 2015-07-12 04:08 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: I would suggest x201s for Many reasons. You can find it without hdd on ebay for 100usd... + ssd any... but I am not sure about openbsd... with debian it just works. The x201 works great. I used one for about 3 years, and the beatings continued until

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
And yes. Just checked my laptop. X201s I was VERY surprised ;) by the way it was with docking... but without hdd cover... and without keys for docking... but overall it is nice! On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 00:11 Mike Larkin mlar...@azathoth.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 09:02:31PM +, Ruslanas

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
I would suggest x201s for Many reasons. You can find it without hdd on ebay for 100usd... + ssd any... but I am not sure about openbsd... with debian it just works. On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 17:41 Peter J. Philipp p...@centroid.eu wrote: Hi, I'm considering buying a new netbook (currently I have an

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
I would suggest x201s for Many reasons. You can find it without hdd on ebay for 100usd... + ssd any... but I am not sure about openbsd... with debian it just works. The x201 works great. I used one for about 3 years, and the beatings continued until everything worked perfectly. Mark Kettenis

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Mike Larkin
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 09:02:31PM +, Ruslanas G??ibovskis wrote: I would suggest x201s for Many reasons. You can find it without hdd on ebay for 100usd... + ssd any... but I am not sure about openbsd... with debian it just works. Assuming you meant Thinkpad x201s (eg a model ending in s

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
X220+ have some ports from back and/or front. And x201s is last which do not have such... and have ddr3... support 8gb... thinkwiki.org ;) On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 00:08 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: I would suggest x201s for Many reasons. You can find it without hdd on ebay for

Re: which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Bryan Everly
I am using an X220 and it is working wonderfully. Great battery life. Solid performance compiling large projects like Open JDK. I upgraded the display to IPS for less than $100 in parts on eBay and about ten minutes with a screwdriver. Thanks, Bryan On Jul 12, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Theo de Raadt

which netbook not to buy?

2015-07-12 Thread Peter J. Philipp
Hi, I'm considering buying a new netbook (currently I have an October 2012 Acer Aspire One). If at all I'd like to stay with Acer but not necessarily. I'm worried about UEFI secure boot on these netbooks. Is there any Acer models that I definitely should not buy? Regards, -peter