Thanks for the link. They don't require it though, according to the doc,
they don't even enforce it for gmail when using it with own domains.
It's certainly a good practice, though, that's true.
On Sat, Sep 09, 2023 at 01:54:48PM +0900, Pontus Stenetorp wrote:
On Sat 09 Sep 2023, Stuart
On Sat 09 Sep 2023, Stuart Longland wrote:
> On 9/9/23 01:28, Tassilo Philipp wrote:
> > > [...] I didn't bother with DKIM until Google started mandating
> > > it for example [...[
> >
> > Hm... do you have a reference for that? I don't have that
> > experience with gmail servers. Also I don't
On Thu, 7 Sep 2023, Sagar Acharya wrote:
In today's times of mature NLP, you will not be able to differentiate
human mail from bot mail or spam. Only in person verification is
trustworthy. No. Are you saying that only people who control the
network should send mails? Well DNS exactly is for
On 9/9/23 01:28, Tassilo Philipp wrote:
[...] I didn't bother with DKIM until Google started mandating it for
example [...[
Hm... do you have a reference for that? I don't have that experience
with gmail servers. Also I don't find info about that being mandatory,
online.
[...] I didn't bother with DKIM until Google started mandating it for
example [...[
Hm... do you have a reference for that? I don't have that experience
with gmail servers. Also I don't find info about that being mandatory,
online.
On Fri, Sep 08, 2023 at 08:24:38AM +1000, Stuart Longland
On 08.09.2023 09:42, Stuart Longland wrote:
Your options are:
1. set up a server outside your ISPs network that can transmit the
message for you (e.g. if Internode decide to block port 25 or withdraw
my public IP, I might use my secondary MX as the outbound mail server
relay.)
2. use your
On 8/9/23 15:51, Sagar Acharya wrote:
SRV records would get port, like
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0368.html
The logic would be like, say there is opensmtpd on the other server
too.
dig _mail._smtp.humaaraartha.in. SRV get_port_from_SRV() if
found_different_port() try_port() else
Thank you Stuart. That is very helpful.
SRV records would get port, like
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0368.html
The logic would be like, say there is opensmtpd on the other server too.
dig _mail._smtp.humaaraartha.in. SRV
get_port_from_SRV()
if found_different_port() try_port()
else
On 7/9/23 20:44, Sagar Acharya wrote:
Let the mail providers have their setups. Is it possible to have a
configuration where I have 2 servers, example.com example2.com where I can send
and receive emails on ports say, 777 on plaintext, starttls optional and port
778 with smtps?
Give me a
On Thu 07 Sep 2023, Tassilo Philipp wrote:
> >
> > Give me a configuration for such a thing.
>
> I think several people mentioned by now reading the doc and getting
> familiar with email. This is not trying to be mean, I think you really
> would set it up faster by learning and using it, then
Give me a configuration for such a thing.
I think several people mentioned by now reading the doc and getting
familiar with email. This is not trying to be mean, I think you really
would set it up faster by learning and using it, then also understanding
it b/c you have to maintain it, than
I get you, I get you.
Let the mail providers have their setups. Is it possible to have a
configuration where I have 2 servers, example.com example2.com where I can send
and receive emails on ports say, 777 on plaintext, starttls optional and port
778 with smtps?
Give me a configuration for
September 7, 2023 11:44 AM, "Sagar Acharya" wrote:
> In today's times of mature NLP, you will not be able to differentiate human
> mail from bot mail or
> spam. Only in person verification is trustworthy.
> No. Are you saying that only people who control the network should send
> mails? Well
ink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
From: Sagar Acharya<mailto:sagaracha...@tutanota.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2023 5:45 PM
To: Archange<mailto:archa...@activis.me>
Cc: Misc<mailto:misc@opensmtpd.org>
Subject: Re: Setting personal mailserver
In today's times of mature N
In today's times of mature NLP, you will not be able to differentiate human
mail from bot mail or spam. Only in person verification is trustworthy.
No. Are you saying that only people who control the network should send mails?
Well DNS exactly is for that. If you find I send spams, you can
This is not the 80–90’s anymore. Internet is not a friendly place, and
the bulk of emails sent today are spams. So most actors are leveraging
everything they can to reduce that, and a high entrance barrier to email
sending is definitively part of this plan.
That’s why we have (fc)rDNS, SPF,
Or maybe we can simplify mail systems more. If mail, a system used to send
messages across computers cannot work on "residential" IPs, then we can make it
work on "residential" network since most nodes are "residential". You can look
at.
humaaraartha.in. TXT
And you'll find spf
Learn the basics. Unfortunately, you do not seem to understand MTA/SMTP.
So read maybe https://github.com/poolpOrg/OpenSMTPD-book, also
https://poolp.org/posts/2019-09-14/setting-up-a-mail-server-with-opensmtpd-dovecot-and-rspamd/,
and get a better understanding of SMTP/MTA requirements.
A
So what's the solution? I have a public ip. Can you suggest an edit?
Thanking you
Sagar Acharya
https://humaaraartha.in
7 Sept 2023, 00:43 by archa...@activis.me:
> Hi,
>
> Le 06/09/2023 à 22:40, Sagar Acharya a écrit :
>
>> I checked all network settings. They are perfect. Here is my conf
Hi,
Le 06/09/2023 à 22:40, Sagar Acharya a écrit :
I checked all network settings. They are perfect. Here is my conf below
exactly. There's some issue with it.
== smtpd.conf ==
table aliases file:/etc/smtpd/aliases
table whitelist file:/etc/smtpd/whitelist
pki humaaraartha.in
Hello,
in your configuration, you're relaying your emails to yourself.
action "relay" relay host"smtps://humaaraartha.in" mail-from "@humaaraartha.in"
from smtpd.conf(5) :
host _relay-url_
Do not perform MX lookups but relay messages to
the relay
I checked all network settings. They are perfect. Here is my conf below
exactly. There's some issue with it.
== smtpd.conf ==
table aliases file:/etc/smtpd/aliases
table whitelist file:/etc/smtpd/whitelist
pki humaaraartha.in cert "path_to_fullchain"
pki humaaraartha.in key
Hello Sagar,
is the port reachable from your system? Check with netcat:
nc -v mydomain.com 465
Is the certificate chain complete and are you trusting the root CA?
Verify with openssl:
openssl s_client -connect mydomain.com:465
(I assume "mydomain.com" is the anonymized form of your
I have set spf records, TXT as follows:
"v=spf1 ipv4:{myipv4address} -all"
You can dig them at humaaraartha.in
Everything looks spick and span and the error of
smtp-out: No valid route for
[connector:[]->[relay:mydomain.com,port=465,smtps,mx],0x0]
still remains.
Thanking you
Sagar Acharya
Hello,
Port 465 with implicit TLS for Submissions isn't outdated since RFC
8314, it's even the recommended way to use Submissions as STARTTLS
(mostly used on tcp/587) is a security nightmare.
More details in this PR i made two months ago :
Port 465 is the deprecated SMTPS submission port, you can't send mail to
that.
If you're trying to send out e-mail from a residential IP (even with an
unblocked outoing port 25), you'll find more problems e.g. receiving
servers not accepting your e-mails because of your IP having no FCrDNS
Port 25 outgoing is blocked. You were correct. I swotched to port 465 with
config
action "relay" relay host smtps://mydomain.com
Such is the error message:
Again there is "Network error on destination MXs"
mta connecting address=smtps://{ipv4}:465 host={xyz}
mta error reason=IO Error:
I tested all of the IPs from your output, and all of them listen on port
25 and a smtp server is answering. So if you are relaying to those via
port 25, and you get a network error (I guess a timeout), then I guess
your outgoing port 25 is blocked. This is relatively common with
residential
I made some progress. I am able to receive mails now but when I send mail from
u...@mydomain.com to sagaracha...@tutanota.com using mutt , I get,
result="TempFail" stat="Network error on destination MXs"
smtp-out: Enabling route [] <-> 81.3.6.162 (w1.tutanota.de)
smtp-out: Enabling route [] <->
If you want to apply the logic you are asking for to emails that are
transmitted, I think you need to work with custom filters for specific
logic (e.g. looking only at attachment size, per day limits, etc.).
There is no "here you go" answer to that, or simple smtpd.conf
statements that would
The error is clear: whatever you connect to requires authentification,
before submitting the mail. So, provide that info.
Authentication is not TLS encryption, so no idea what you mean by you
added TLS certs and that STARTTLS should make it work: it's simply not
authentication.
On Fri, Sep
To enable being able to send mails from my server, I added tls certs.
Now when I send from this email id to u...@mydomain.com , I get the error below.
530
5.5.1 Invalid command: Must issue an AUTH command first (in reply to MAIL
FROM command)
Since STARTTLS is working on 25, I think things
I used mutt for accessing mail. I still am unable to send mail using my server.
I can receive mails.
I also completed the whitelist. How can I do this?
I want to allow access only upto 25MB attachments from whitelisted emails and
allow only 1email (only text based) per day from non-whitelisted
From the doc (smtpd.conf(5)):
maildir [pathname [junk]]
Deliver the message to the maildir in pathname if
specified, or by default to ~/Maildir.
So given your config, you seem to get exactly what you configured.
For your "whitelist", create the
I got a mail, which lies in Maildir, however no mailbox is configured. Is there
a default mailbox in alpine and how do I access the mail contents in
~/Maildir
My mails are under
~/Maildir/new/
Also, how do I whitelist email ids, say, I want mails only from
f...@bar.com
f...@bar2.com
How do I do that? What CLI tool do I use?
While starting the daemon, the configuration is OK as given in prompt.
With the DNS configuration I have, where can I send a mail, at
u...@mydomain.com or at u...@mail.mydomain.com ?
Thanking you
Sagar Acharya
https://humaaraartha.in
31 Aug 2023,
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023, Sagar Acharya wrote:
I'm facing an issue similar to a person a while ago available on
archive. I use alpine, and the conf is as below
There is nothing in the mailbox.
Are you looking with alpine, or with CLI tools like ls? Use CLI tools
to check that you've
I'm facing an issue similar to a person a while ago available on archive. I use
alpine, and the conf is as below
table aliases file:/etc/smtpd/aliases
listen on eth0
action "local" maildir alias
action "relay" relay
match from any for domain "mydomain.com" action "local"
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