Re: Traffic analysis on a per service basis

2006-03-03 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 03:33:53AM +0100, Martin Schr?der wrote: On 2006-03-02 19:01:13 -0600, eric wrote: Best you'll find for reliable traffic accounting (and the most flexible) is argus http://www.qosient.com/argus/. I'd recommend that route, then using Seems to be quiet since

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-03 Thread Lars Hansson
On Thursday 02 March 2006 09:03, you wrote: Really? So when the box goes down, just let the mail bounce? Mail will not start to bounce the moment your box goes down. SMTP was designed to be reliable. How would it break spamassassin (which is what I use)? It doesn't. --- Lars Hansson

help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread oliver simon
hi bsd-gurus ... we are currently trying to set up an openbsd host, and have a problem with source-routing mechanisms !? Setup is as following: (all IP4s examples) hme1 - 10.50.0.10 hme0 - 217.5.23.69 hme0_alias - 217.5.23.70 default-gw is 10.50.0.1 If you want to connect to e.g.

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:08:43PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: hi bsd-gurus ... we are currently trying to set up an openbsd host, and have a problem with source-routing mechanisms !? Setup is as following: (all IP4s examples) hme1 - 10.50.0.10 hme0 - 217.5.23.69 hme0_alias -

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/03 13:08, oliver simon wrote: we are currently trying to set up an openbsd host, and have a problem with source-routing mechanisms !? PF route-to/reply-to options will ensure the packets are sent out the correct interface, then you can either setup your software to bind to the right

Re: RedHat and Linux emulation

2006-03-03 Thread Reyk Floeter
Ted Unangst wrote: you can use whatever libraries you like. what's the point of a more free distro when the only use for emulation is to run non-free software? or non-portable software like OpenOffice reyk

Re: RedHat and Linux emulation

2006-03-03 Thread Antonios Anastasiadis
by the way,what is the status of the openoffice native port? On 3/3/06, Reyk Floeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: you can use whatever libraries you like. what's the point of a more free distro when the only use for emulation is to run non-free software? or non-portable

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Hi, ...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:08:43PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: hme1 - 10.50.0.10 hme0 - 217.5.23.69 hme0_alias - 217.5.23.70 default-gw is 10.50.0.1 If you want to connect to e.g. 193.44.25.2, the machine has to go there with one of it4s official IPs 217... Are you shure

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread oliver simon
Hi Joachim, thanks for helping ... here4s the requested ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # route -n show Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs UseMtu Interface default10.50.0.1 UGS 0 2796 - hme1 10.32.0/24

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread oliver simon
Hi Alex, Alexander Bochmann wrote: Hi, ...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:08:43PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: hme1 - 10.50.0.10 hme0 - 217.5.23.69 hme0_alias - 217.5.23.70 default-gw is 10.50.0.1 If you want to connect to e.g. 193.44.25.2, the machine has to go there with one of

Re: RedHat and Linux emulation

2006-03-03 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 11:32:58AM +0100, Hannah Schroeter wrote: | Hello! | | On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 09:54:35AM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote: | Just for curiosity, yesterday I was thinking about Linux emulation and | redhat OpenBSD packages. I would like to know if it is planned to | switch to

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 02:01:22PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: Hi Alex, Alexander Bochmann wrote: Hi, ...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:08:43PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: hme1 - 10.50.0.10 hme0 - 217.5.23.69 hme0_alias - 217.5.23.70 default-gw is 10.50.0.1 If you want

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread oliver simon
Hi again .. ;-) Joachim Schipper wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 02:01:22PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: Hi Alex, Alexander Bochmann wrote: Hi, ...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:08:43PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: hme1 - 10.50.0.10 hme0 - 217.5.23.69 hme0_alias - 217.5.23.70 default-gw is

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread oliver simon
Does not work ... After putting your lines in pf.conf, it just puts out a syntax error !? oliver simon wrote: Hi again .. ;-) Joachim Schipper wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 02:01:22PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: Hi Alex, Alexander Bochmann wrote: Hi, ...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:08:43PM

Re: Traffic analysis on a per service basis

2006-03-03 Thread David Elze
Am Donnerstag, den 02.03.2006, 12:29 -0700 schrieb Spruell, Darren-Perot: Hi, You would be well served by Netflow graphs. You can get traffic breakdowns in a very granular fashion and the right frontend will allow you to drill down in a very granular fashion. There are a couple of utils that

Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 5

2006-03-03 Thread Gustavo Rios
Hey folks, i have an sun workstation in hand and had never had a previous experience with sun hardare before. I would like redirect console to serial port. These machine are very old, and hardware documentation has been lost. It has a serial port, doesn't it? I was trying to get X working, but

Re: Traffic analysis on a per service basis

2006-03-03 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 04:28:53PM +0100, David Elze wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 02.03.2006, 12:29 -0700 schrieb Spruell, Darren-Perot: Hi, You would be well served by Netflow graphs. You can get traffic breakdowns in a very granular fashion and the right frontend will allow you to drill

Re: Traffic analysis on a per service basis

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Schmidt
David Elze wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 02.03.2006, 12:29 -0700 schrieb Spruell, Darren-Perot: Hi, You would be well served by Netflow graphs. You can get traffic breakdowns in a very granular fashion and the right frontend will allow you to drill down in a very granular fashion. There are a

Re: Traffic analysis on a per service basis

2006-03-03 Thread Reyk Floeter
David Elze wrote: On the other hand, 'flowd -d' breaks with chdir(/nonexistent): No such file or directory though the only configurable directory seems to be the one in /etc/flowd.conf which is correct. looks like the home directory of the unprivileged flowd _user_. you should try 'usermod

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 03:03:23PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: Hi again .. ;-) Joachim Schipper wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 02:01:22PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: Hi Alex, Alexander Bochmann wrote: Hi, ...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:08:43PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: hme1 -

Re: Traffic analysis on a per service basis

2006-03-03 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:01:01PM +0100, Reyk Floeter wrote: David Elze wrote: On the other hand, 'flowd -d' breaks with chdir(/nonexistent): No such file or directory though the only configurable directory seems to be the one in /etc/flowd.conf which is correct. looks like the home

Re: Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 5

2006-03-03 Thread Jason Crawford
On 3/3/06, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks, i have an sun workstation in hand and had never had a previous experience with sun hardare before. I would like redirect console to serial port. These machine are very old, and hardware documentation has been lost. It has a serial

Re: Traffic analysis on a per service basis

2006-03-03 Thread David Elze
Am Freitag, den 03.03.2006, 16:58 +0100 schrieb Joachim Schipper: Hi, I don't know about the rest, but a grep nonexistent /etc/passwd might prove enlightening. ;-) Uuups, thanks a lot! CU David -- David Elze Tel:(+49)(0)441 - 36116410 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RedHat and Linux emulation

2006-03-03 Thread David Terrell
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:58:27PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote: Using another distribution (freely downloadable etc) will make it easier to update the port in case of security issues after Red Hat stopped fixing bugs in their legacy RPM's. Not a very strong point, I agree, but a point

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...on Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 03:03:23PM +0100, oliver simon wrote: Internal Network is another IP-Range ... DMZ has official IPs for the services and its private ip-range for the hosts themself. DMZ: 10.50.0.0/24 + Official IPs for services Internal(!)Lan: 10.23.0.0/24 DBNet (e.g.):

Re: Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 5

2006-03-03 Thread Nick Holland
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:51:31PM -0300, Gustavo Rios wrote: Hey folks, i have an sun workstation in hand and had never had a previous experience with sun hardare before. I would like redirect console to serial port. These machine are very old, and hardware documentation has been lost. It

Re: Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 5

2006-03-03 Thread Craig
Try this: http://slashboot.org/openbsd/sparc64-openbsd38-xorg.conf I've had it working just fine. I now run it without X, as a server. Hope that helps, Craig Gustavo Rios wrote: Hey folks, i have an sun workstation in hand and had never had a previous experience with sun hardare before. I

Re: help with source-routing

2006-03-03 Thread oliver simon
Still no success ... On the next firewall, tcpdump only shows the private IP-Address from the bsd-machine, trying to connect the outer world ... 17:51:38.109862 10.50.0.10.47888 83.146.78.121.ssh: S 3774377327:3774377327(0) win 16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp

Re: Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 5

2006-03-03 Thread Matthew Weigel
Jason Crawford wrote: there, sorry. But as far as getting serial console to work, all you have to do is make sure that a keyboard and monitor are NOT plugged Actually, just the keyboard has to be unplugged. :-) -- Matthew Weigel hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

sun ultra 1 / ultra 5 disk layout

2006-03-03 Thread Gustavo Rios
Here i am again with my new old sun ultra 1 boxes. When playing with i386 boxes, i used to let a initial 63 sectors for the boot procedure. So, i never used my whole disk. For sun, i don't know whether i have to let some space or may just go using from sector 0. /Thanks in advance.

Re: Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 5

2006-03-03 Thread Jason Crawford
On 3/3/06, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Crawford wrote: there, sorry. But as far as getting serial console to work, all you have to do is make sure that a keyboard and monitor are NOT plugged Actually, just the keyboard has to be unplugged. :-) Cool since I sold my U5 and

Re: Sun Ultra 1 and Ultra 5

2006-03-03 Thread Craig
Or, if you want to keep your keyboard plugged in: At the Sun PROM ok prompt: ok setenv input-device ttya ok setenv output-device ttya Will set your first com pport up for serial console work. Connect to that a NULL serial cable and from another machine: cu -l /dev/cua00 -s 9600 Should let you

Cyrus SASL2 LDAPDB Plugin

2006-03-03 Thread dontek.openbsd
Does anyone know if there are plans to create an individual port for the now cyrus-sasl2-ldapdb plugin, similar to the FreeBSD port; or should I redirect to @ports? thanks..

what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Bryan Brake
if the x.x.x versioning is followed 4.0 would mean there is a major upgrade to the OS, while 3.10 is minor updates. Just thinking about all the goodies that a 4.x OS would mean. Bryan

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Bryan Brake wrote: if the x.x.x versioning is followed 4.0 would mean there is a major upgrade to the OS, while 3.10 is minor updates. Just thinking about all the goodies that a 4.x OS would mean. Bryan What was it before. 2.9 to 3.0 or to 2.10??? Each release have major changes as far as

ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Fridtjof Busse
Hi Is anybody using 802.11a with ath? The manpage lists a/b/g as working, although g definitly doesn't work for me, only b does. Now I'm curious if anything besides b actually works before I buy an antenna for a. Or is it just my cards? If not, why isn't there a note about this in the manpage?

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread STeve Andre'
On Friday 03 March 2006 15:29, Bryan Brake wrote: if the x.x.x versioning is followed 4.0 would mean there is a major upgrade to the OS, while 3.10 is minor updates. Just thinking about all the goodies that a 4.x OS would mean. Bryan This was beaten to death five years ago. What happened

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Adam
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:29:46 -0800 Bryan Brake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the x.x.x versioning is followed 4.0 would mean there is a major upgrade to the OS, while 3.10 is minor updates. Hmm, I wonder if this question was asked 5 years ago when 2.9 was the latest release... Just thinking

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2006-03-03 Thread central
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Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
Is anybody using 802.11a with ath? The manpage lists a/b/g as working, although g definitly doesn't work for me, only b does. Now I'm curious if anything besides b actually works before I buy an antenna for a. Or is it just my cards? If not, why isn't there a note about this in the

Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Fridtjof Busse
* Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is anybody using 802.11a with ath? The manpage lists a/b/g as working, although g definitly doesn't work for me, only b does. Now I'm curious if anything besides b actually works before I buy an antenna for a. Or is it just my cards? If not, why isn't

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
Yep, the developers magically do more in the 6 months preceding 4.0 than the 6 months preceding any other release. That's definately how it works. We've been holding back about 50% of our work for each of the previous 4 releases, and now we are going to throw all those very large things into

basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm not sure which way to jump with this question which is a reflection of unskilled, inexperienced networking background. This may not even be the right way to do it. First: This is all something of a training exercise and not an important production setup. Summary: I'm attempting

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 02:04 PM 3/3/2006 -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: Yep, the developers magically do more in the 6 months preceding 4.0 than the 6 months preceding any other release. That's definately how it works. We've been holding back about 50% of our work for each of the previous 4 releases, and now we

Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Andrew Smith
Seconded (as if I needed to with Theo responding :P) I have an old Atheros based cardbus adaptor that will supposedly do b+g but I know for a fact not a, check the specs of the device please and do as Theo asks... dmesg is useful. Having said that... Theo it may interest you that the man

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
This was beaten to death five years ago. What happened after the 2.9 release? Using a little logic it shouldn't be too hard to figure it out... Plus it is in the OpenBSD efficiency model too! Typing 4.0 is shorter then typing 3.10. That's 33% more text to type. My finger would be tied each

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread dontek.openbsd
L. V. Lammert wrote: At 02:04 PM 3/3/2006 -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: Yep, the developers magically do more in the 6 months preceding 4.0 than the 6 months preceding any other release. That's definately how it works. We've been holding back about 50% of our work for each of the previous 4

Re: basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-03 Thread Bryan Irvine
uh, what did you just say? I don't understand. What are you trying to do? why would you need a second name server on your local LAN? The netgear can only port forward for one. Are you trying to route between the 2 nics on the OBSD machine? Gmail b0rked your ASCII diagram. --Bryan On

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 12:29:46PM -0800, Bryan Brake wrote: Just thinking about all the goodies that a 4.x OS would mean. a) 4 is the first non-prime, at least according to factor(6). b) you need three bits for the number 4, so the 4.x release will bust the current two bit major version

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2006-03-03 Thread Mr. Real Estate
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Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Bryan Irvine
snip b) you need three bits for the number 4, so the 4.x release will bust the current two bit major version number limit. snip this is the best response so far. LOL! --Bryan

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Bob Beck
* Bryan Brake [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-03 13:39]: if the x.x.x versioning is followed 4.0 would mean there is a major upgrade to the OS, while 3.10 is minor updates. Why would 4.0 mean that? where does it say that. Unmitigated horseshit - and OpenBSD release is an openbsd release.

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Reid Nichol
--- Jean-So?=bastien Bour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Kilian a icrit : a) 4 is the first non-prime, at least according to factor(6). No, it is 1 :) Explanation : a prime number can only be divided by two different numbers : 1 and itself. 1 can only be divided by one number,

Re: basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Smith
On Friday 03 March 2006 16:46, Bryan Irvine wrote: Gmail b0rked your ASCII diagram. Looks fine here when viewed with a fixed font, at least I think it does, but I'm not sure what the question is either. I also fail to see the logic in sending copies of connections to the netgear to the obsd

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Jean-Sébastien Bour
Reid Nichol a icrit : --- Jean-So?=bastien Bour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Kilian a icrit : a) 4 is the first non-prime, at least according to factor(6). No, it is 1 :) Explanation : a prime number can only be divided by two different numbers : 1 and itself. 1 can

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Steve Shockley
L. V. Lammert wrote: You're been saving Adaptec Promise raidctl, for 4.0, right? That, and NdisWrapper support.

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Peter Valchev
No no not wrong, indeed I didn't talk about being positive. But being prime is being positive (should have said it I agree) and have EXACTLY TWO different divisors. And if 1 were prime you wouldn't have only one unique decomposition in prime numbers ;) (for exemple, is 45 = 3x3x5 or

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Reid Nichol
--- Jean-SC)bastien Bour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reid Nichol a icrit : --- Jean-So?=bastien Bour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Kilian a icrit : a) 4 is the first non-prime, at least according to factor(6). No, it is 1 :) Explanation : a prime number can

os detection of NMAP not working

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Smith
Pf's os detection of NMAP isn't working with NMAP 4.01. Pf detects NMAP 3.81 fine but not version 4.01. I don't have any other versions so I don't know exactly which or at which version it stops working. This is with openBSD 3.8, but the NMAP specific signatures in the cvs pf.os seem

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Reid Nichol
I find it interesting that you didn't send this entirely condisending superior reply to the list. Now why is that? --- Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reid Nichol wrote: I suggest at least looking into elementary number theory before making such statements again. You might want

Relaydb question

2006-03-03 Thread Steve Shockley
I'm using relaydb to scan through my mailbox (maildir format) to whitelist and blacklist. I do something like this in my Inbox: for message in $MAILBASE/cur/* do cat $message | /usr/local/bin/relaydb -vwf /var/spamd/relaydb done The problem with this is that I keep messages in my Inbox; so,

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Craig Hammond
Come on. Hasn't the OpenBSD marketing department caught on yet. OpenBSD XP or OpenBSD Vista is the obvious choice. Like Windows Vista, there could be 5 versions of OpenBSD Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/versions/default.mspx OpenBSD Vista - Home Basic. (aka. Vista Home, Dave

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread dick
OpenBSD Vista - Home Basic. (aka. Vista Home, Dave Fuestel) Same as Home - Premium, but has all the man pages deleted to save valuable space. LOL! there could be a special mailing list for Vista users: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread dick
Original message Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:19:33 +0100 From: Jean-Sibastien Bour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0??? To: misc@openbsd.org Reid Nichol a icrit : --- Jean-So?=bastien Bour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Kilian a icrit : a) 4 is

Re: Squid QOS

2006-03-03 Thread Cahyo
On 3/3/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 09:47:35PM +0700, Cahyo wrote: I wish someone make this http://www.docum.org/docum.org/faq/cache/65.html for obsd pf n altq, because very useful for SOHO user for bandwidth efficiency, maybe have another ideas

Re: ath and 802.11a

2006-03-03 Thread Fridtjof Busse
* Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Seconded (as if I needed to with Theo responding :P) I have an old Atheros based cardbus adaptor that will supposedly do b +g but I know for a fact not a, check the specs of the device please and do as Theo asks... dmesg is useful. Well, I'll not try a

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread dick
Original message Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 19:04:32 -0800 (PST) From: Reid Nichol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0??? To: Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org I find it interesting that you didn't send this entirely condisending superior reply

Re: what is next? 3.10 or 4.0???

2006-03-03 Thread Damien Miller
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Reid Nichol wrote: I find it interesting that you didn't send this entirely condisending superior reply to the list. Now why is that? because it is off topic. Please stop this thread, which has nothing to do with OpenBSD anymore.