Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Dawid Czeluśniak
Hi OpenBSD community, First of all, thank you for 6.7 release. I am a huge fan of minimal and custom installations as I mostly use OpenBSD to host simple HTTP servers. I basically use vi to edit httpd.conf file, obtain a certificate from Let's Encrypt using built-in acme-client, then start the se

Thinkpad X1 5th Gen Microphone

2020-05-21 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has ever gotten a microphone working with the built-in azalia chipset of a Thinkpad X1 5th gen (either the internal mic, or a headset)? I've never managed to get it working. Default mixerctl settings: ``` inputs.dac-0:1_mute=off inputs.dac-0:1=198,198 inputs.dac-2:3

Re: Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Anders Andersson
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:19 AM Dawid Czeluśniak wrote: > > Hi OpenBSD community, > > First of all, thank you for 6.7 release. > > I am a huge fan of minimal and custom installations > as I mostly use OpenBSD to host simple HTTP servers. ... > I would like to get your opinion on that. >From what

Re: Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2020-05-19, Dawid Czeluśniak wrote: > But then I thought about > the second possible way: why not to extract pkg_* executables > and Perl to the separate file set (pkgXX.tgz)? I think it is safe to say this is not going to happen. > 2. Are there any other programs

Re: Thinkpad X1 5th Gen Microphone

2020-05-21 Thread Eric Auge
Hello Edd, All good here, microphone works fine, once I enable recording: sysctl kern.audio.record=1 HTH, Cheers, Eric. On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:53 AM Edd Barrett wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone has ever gotten a microphone working with the > built-in azalia chipset of a Thinkpad

Re: Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On 2020-05-21 09:55, Anders Andersson wrote: >> I am a huge fan of minimal and custom installations >> as I mostly use OpenBSD to host simple HTTP servers. > ... >> I would like to get your opinion on that. > From what I've seen, those goals are not compatible with OpenBSD, as > in: You're just mak

Re: Thinkpad X1 5th Gen Microphone

2020-05-21 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi Eric, On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:50:36PM +0200, Eric Auge wrote: > Hello Edd, > > All good here, microphone works fine, once I enable recording: > sysctl kern.audio.record=1 Can you share your output of `mixerctl -a` please so that I can diff it with mine? -- Best Regards Edd Barrett http:

Re: Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
You are on your own. You knew that would be the answer. Be happy about it. Dawid Czeluśniak wrote: > Hi OpenBSD community, > > First of all, thank you for 6.7 release. > > I am a huge fan of minimal and custom installations > as I mostly use OpenBSD to host simple HTTP servers. > I basically

Mounting microSDHC

2020-05-21 Thread Anirudh Oppiliappan
I'm trying to mount a SanDisk Ultra microSDHC. My laptop -- HP Envy 13 -- has a slot for it. But upon pluggin in, there is no device recognized, and dmesg doesn't show anything. I understand sdhc(4) should take care of this, but that's all I know. Any pointers?

Re: Thinkpad X1 5th Gen Microphone

2020-05-21 Thread Eric Auge
re, just to be sure, I tried aucat | aucat .. and mumble both are fine and I can record (low volume though as you can see, it was just to answer your email for 5th gen...) # mixerctl -a : inputs.dac-0:1_mute=on inputs.dac-0:1=204,204 inputs.dac-2:3_mute=on inputs.dac-2:3=204,204 inputs.beep=108

Re: Mounting microSDHC

2020-05-21 Thread Maurice McCarthy
Maybe depends whether it is on usb or pci. Have a look at $ pkg_info pcsc-tools

Re: Mounting microSDHC

2020-05-21 Thread Robert
On Thu, 21 May 2020 16:31:22 +0100 Maurice McCarthy wrote: > Maybe depends whether it is on usb or pci. Have a look at > > $ pkg_info pcsc-tools > I had a similar issue long ago (don't remember the exact hardware setup). The solution was to have a card in the slot when booting the machine; other

Re: Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi David, Dawid Czelu?niak wrote on Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:19:23PM +0200: > I am a huge fan of minimal and custom installations > as I mostly use OpenBSD to host simple HTTP servers. That's perfectly fine. These days, we consider the "minimal installation" the base file sets, including xbase.

Re: Mounting microSDHC

2020-05-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2020-05-21, Robert wrote: > On Thu, 21 May 2020 16:31:22 +0100 > Maurice McCarthy wrote: > >> Maybe depends whether it is on usb or pci. Have a look at >> >> $ pkg_info pcsc-tools >> > > I had a similar issue long ago (don't remember the exact hardware > setup). > The solution was to have a ca

Re: Thinkpad X1 5th Gen Microphone

2020-05-21 Thread Eric Auge
forgot to ask in my previous mail but did you check your sndioctl settings? $ sndioctl input.level=0.494 input.mute=0 output.level=1.000 output.mute=0 app/aucat0.level=1.000 app/aucat1.level=1.000 app/mumble0.level=1.000 app/mumble1.level=1.000 Cheers, HTH, Eric. On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:03 PM E

Select ssh key from ssh-agent?

2020-05-21 Thread Paul Suh
Folks, I’m not sure this is the right place to ask, but I hope someone can point me in the right direction. When using ssh with keys that are in files on the local host, you can specify which key is used for the connection by using the -i option and giving the path to the key file. However

Re: Thinkpad X1 5th Gen Microphone

2020-05-21 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:22:46PM +0200, Eric Auge wrote: > forgot to ask in my previous mail but did you check your sndioctl settings? > $ sndioctl > input.level=0.494 > input.mute=0 > output.level=1.000 > output.mute=0 > app/aucat0.level=1.000 > app/aucat1.level=1.000 > app/mumble0.level=1.

Re: Thinkpad X1 5th Gen Microphone

2020-05-21 Thread Edd Barrett
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:31:21PM +0200, zeurk...@volny.cz wrote: > IIRC, at least some Thinkpads have BIOS options for "sensitive" stuff > like a microphone. Tried looking there? Yeah I did. Mic is enabled. -- Best Regards Edd Barrett http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk

Re: Why does OpenBSD still include Perl in its base installation?

2020-05-21 Thread Andrew Hewus Fresh
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:19:23PM +0200, Dawid Czeluśniak wrote: > 3. Are there people among this community who think that > the base installation of OpenBSD should not include Perl > and Perl-dependent programs and utilities? I assume there are people in the community who think that OpenBSD shou