Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
Alexei Malinin Alexei.Malinin at mail.ru writes: OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #41: Tue Jul 30 15:30:02 MDT 2013 deraadt at amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP I would recommend trying -current first and back with another report.
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
On 12/23/13 17:59, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: Alexei Malinin Alexei.Malinin at mail.ru writes: OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #41: Tue Jul 30 15:30:02 MDT 2013 deraadt at amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP I would recommend trying -current first and back with another report. Thank you, your advise is good but the notebook is my work instrument and unfortunately I have no enough time now to install -current and check. Are there other ways to troubleshoot my problem? -- Alexei Malinin
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
Alexei Malinin wrote: Hello. My notebook hangs while working in X (at random times, several times per day). I could not find any information related to the above problemin syslogs. I would like to get a good advice about how to find possible sources of the problem. -- Alexei Malinin Did you read http://www.openbsd.org/report.html ? The section about setting sysctl ddb.console=1 might help you get more information.
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
On 12/23/13 20:32, Remco wrote: Alexei Malinin wrote: Hello. My notebook hangs while working in X (at random times, several times per day). I could not find any information related to the above problemin syslogs. I would like to get a good advice about how to find possible sources of the problem. -- Alexei Malinin Did you read http://www.openbsd.org/report.html ? The section about setting sysctl ddb.console=1 might help you get more information. The page says: ... try enabling sysctl ddb.console=1prior to the hang and getting in DDB via Ctl+Alt+Esc on the keyboard (_must be outside of X_). But while my notebooks hangs in X keyboard hangs too - so your your advice cannot help.
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
On 12/23/2013 10:11 AM, Alexei Malinin wrote: On 12/23/13 17:59, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: Alexei Malinin Alexei.Malinin at mail.ru writes: OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #41: Tue Jul 30 15:30:02 MDT 2013 deraadt at amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP I would recommend trying -current first and back with another report. Thank you, your advise is good but the notebook is my work instrument and unfortunately I have no enough time now to install -current and check. Are there other ways to troubleshoot my problem? The first step is always to see if the problem has been solved already. Where it would be solved is in -current. Odds are, unless it is a regression (i.e., 5.3 worked, 5.4 doesn't), there will be no fix for 5.4 release. Lots has changed since 5.4 already. I'm not sure what you are expecting for troubleshooting when you refuse to do the most logical next step that may fix the problem, or at least get you closer to where the fix will happen. Any fixes you help develop will be applied to -current first, and probably only. Nick.
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
Alexei Malinin Alexei.Malinin at mail.ru writes: On 12/23/13 17:59, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: Alexei Malinin Alexei.Malinin at mail.ru writes: OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC.MP) #41: Tue Jul 30 15:30:02 MDT 2013 deraadt at amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP I would recommend trying -current first and back with another report. Thank you, your advise is good but the notebook is my work instrument and unfortunately I have no enough time now to install -current and check. Are there other ways to troubleshoot my problem? get latest snapshot, install and boot using USB stick, run X...
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Alexei Malinin alexei.mali...@mail.ru wrote: On 12/23/13 20:32, Remco wrote: Alexei Malinin wrote: Hello. My notebook hangs while working in X (at random times, several times per day). I could not find any information related to the above problemin syslogs. I would like to get a good advice about how to find possible sources of the problem. -- Alexei Malinin Did you read http://www.openbsd.org/report.html ? The section about setting sysctl ddb.console=1 might help you get more information. The page says: ... try enabling sysctl ddb.console=1prior to the hang and getting in DDB via Ctl+Alt+Esc on the keyboard (_must be outside of X_). But while my notebooks hangs in X keyboard hangs too - so your your advice cannot help. From your messages, it's not clear whether it is X or the whole system that is hung. Does it respond to ctrl-alt-Fn? Have you tried pinging it from another machine? If ping shows signs of life, try ssh-ing in. /Don
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
On 12/23/13 21:14, Donald Allen wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Alexei Malinin alexei.mali...@mail.ru wrote: On 12/23/13 20:32, Remco wrote: Alexei Malinin wrote: Hello. My notebook hangs while working in X (at random times, several times per day). I could not find any information related to the above problemin syslogs. I would like to get a good advice about how to find possible sources of the problem. -- Alexei Malinin Did you read http://www.openbsd.org/report.html ? The section about setting sysctl ddb.console=1 might help you get more information. The page says: ... try enabling sysctl ddb.console=1prior to the hang and getting in DDB via Ctl+Alt+Esc on the keyboard (_must be outside of X_). But while my notebooks hangs in X keyboard hangs too - so your your advice cannot help. From your messages, it's not clear whether it is X or the whole system that is hung. Does it respond to ctrl-alt-Fn? Have you tried pinging it from another machine? If ping shows signs of life, try ssh-ing in. the whole system is hung, no response at all :(
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
Thanks to all for the replies. I'll try -current... -- Alexei Malinin
Re: [OpenBSD-5.4/amd64] Lenovo T430 hangs in X
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Alexei Malinin alexei.mali...@mail.ru wrote: On 12/23/13 21:14, Donald Allen wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Alexei Malinin alexei.mali...@mail.ru wrote: On 12/23/13 20:32, Remco wrote: Alexei Malinin wrote: Hello. My notebook hangs while working in X (at random times, several times per day). I could not find any information related to the above problemin syslogs. I would like to get a good advice about how to find possible sources of the problem. -- Alexei Malinin Did you read http://www.openbsd.org/report.html ? The section about setting sysctl ddb.console=1 might help you get more information. The page says: ... try enabling sysctl ddb.console=1prior to the hang and getting in DDB via Ctl+Alt+Esc on the keyboard (_must be outside of X_). But while my notebooks hangs in X keyboard hangs too - so your your advice cannot help. From your messages, it's not clear whether it is X or the whole system that is hung. Does it respond to ctrl-alt-Fn? Have you tried pinging it from another machine? If ping shows signs of life, try ssh-ing in. the whole system is hung, no response at all :( Ultimately, Nick is right and his advice should be followed. And Alexey Suslikov has given you a good suggestion for trying current without disturbing the machine. But if you want to cling to the hope that the 5.4 release can be somehow tweaked to work properly (I wouldn't, but I'm not in your situation), you might try generating an xorg.conf with 'X -configure', stick it in /etc/X11, and change the driver in the device section to vesa. Then bring up X and see what happens. If the crashes cease, you might have a usable system, if you can put up with the vesa driver's limitations. Again, I think Nick's approach is the right one, but if you really can't follow his advice for whatever reason, this hack is an alternative approach. /Don
