On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
snip
If you find your wants and needs overlap with those of the developers,
we ask you to help support the project. If you don't care about
OpenBSD, you probably aren't reading this (well, we know a few people
pO DANNYM RADIOPEREHWATA OT 23-Sep-2009 21:21, Tom Smith
BYL ZAME^EN W \FIRE, NA ^ASTOTE misc, S TAKOJ INFORMACIEJ:
OpenBSD is created by the developers for the developers and any use
that the rest of us get from the OS is a nice side effect of their
generosity...
That's nonsense. You
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
neal hogan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 01:04:07AM +0200, jean-francois wrote:
Le jeudi 17 septembre 2009 C 08:56 +1000, armpit a C)crit :
Marco Peereboom wrote:
[...] OpenBSD is built by the developers for the developers. [...]
To me it sound like OpenBSD is built by the developpers for
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:29 PM, armpit mailto...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
OpenBSD is created by the developers for the developers and any use that
the rest of us get from the OS is a nice side effect of their generosity...
That's nonsense. You can't beg for donations and CD sales, time and
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:21:07PM -0400, Tom Smith wrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:29 PM, armpit mailto...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
OpenBSD is created by the developers for the developers and any use that
the rest of us get from the OS is a nice side effect of their generosity...
Tom Smith wrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:29 PM, armpit mailto...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
OpenBSD is created by the developers for the developers and any use that
the rest of us get from the OS is a nice side effect of their generosity...
That's nonsense. You can't beg for donations and
Le jeudi 17 septembre 2009 C 08:56 +1000, armpit a C)crit :
Marco Peereboom wrote:
[...] OpenBSD is built by the developers for the developers. [...]
To me it sound like OpenBSD is built by the developpers for the
developpers, and also the rest of the world who need it for whatever
purpose one
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 01:04:07AM +0200, jean-francois wrote:
Le jeudi 17 septembre 2009 C 08:56 +1000, armpit a C)crit :
Marco Peereboom wrote:
[...] OpenBSD is built by the developers for the developers. [...]
To me it sound like OpenBSD is built by the developpers for the
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:59:45PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:08:55PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I think your problem can be traced to the different default
voices.
I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with the
same config, like I
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 03:33:07PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:59:45PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:08:55PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I think your problem can be traced to the different default
voices.
I've test timidity
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 01:59:43PM +1200, Paul M wrote:
I like fluidsynth.
Well, I got it. Could you explain me how do you ran it?
Are you serious?
Is it looks like joke?
fluidsynth -ni Unison.sf2 beethoven_-_5th_simphony.mid
fluidsynth: warning: Ignoring sample *KPianoB5: can't use ROM
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 04:09:04PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
I think your problem can be traced to the different
default voices.
I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with
the same config, like I have one in FreeBSD, on the same
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 01:13:56PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 01:59:43PM +1200, Paul M wrote:
I like fluidsynth.
Well, I got it. Could you explain me how do you ran it?
Are you serious?
Is it looks like joke?
fluidsynth -ni Unison.sf2 beethoven_-_5th_simphony.mid
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
wrote:
oh, wait. I found a dmesg: PR 6220. PII @ 349 MHz w/ s...@isapnp
ok, now I can believe you may have a performance issue.
OK, that beats what I saw at work today. Someone sent me an email
with a subject that said
But I think this - 350Mhz general use cpu turned midi player may
actually beat me out for stupidity of the day. He probably believes
Microsoft and runs XP on a 486 too.
You can get close though!
http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/xpmini_eng.htm
;-)
-B
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:30:25PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
fluidsynth -ni Unison.sf2 beethoven_-_5th_simphony.mid fluidsynth:
warning: Ignoring sample *KPianoB5: can't use ROM samples fluidsynth:
error: Couldn't set libsndio audio parameters as desired Failed to
create the audio driver
- Tethys tet...@gmail.com writes:
And that attitude is why OpenBSD will never be more than a hobby OS. Sigh.
Yes? So? Not everyone has to have an ambition to take over the world.
The developers do it as a hobby, for fun.
Which ties into the OP. The answer to his question is why?.
//art
And that attitude is why OpenBSD will never be more than a hobby OS. Sigh.
Yes? So? Not everyone has to have an ambition to take over the world.
The developers do it as a hobby, for fun.
Which ties into the OP. The answer to his question is why?.
No kidding.
All I ever wanted was a hobby.
If
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 04:14:46PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM,
Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users.
Wow I'm glad that I'm not part of that industry!
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 02:44:23AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users.
Wow I'm glad that I'm not part of that industry!
Nah, our end-users are just different beasts. They walk upright.
-Otto
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:59 +0100, Cian Brennan wrote:
OpenBSD's a wonderful OS, but it's lack of easy upgradability is a
*disadvantage, not something to be proud of. And yes, there are good
Our Institute moved away from Linux servers always everwhere, just
*because* of updates are unreliable.
hmm, on Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:43:07AM +0200, Stephan A. Rickauer said that
Our Institute moved away from Linux servers always everwhere, just
*because* of updates are unreliable. Very often we did an apt-get update
or an yum bla, reboot, machine dead or fucked up otherwise.
everyone is
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine
You have an odd definition of professional, and the kind of attitude that
sounds like you haven't actually worked in the computer industry in a
while.
Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end
users. And
things like easy updates, specialisation of
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote:
You have an odd definition of professional, and the kind of attitude that
sounds like you haven't actually worked in the computer industry in a while.
Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users. And
Ignore my double posting, my mistake.
--
Christiano Farina HAESBAERT
Do NOT send me html mail.
Christiano Farina Haesbaert wrote:
Ignore my double posting, my mistake.
Dont worry, it adds value to the intarwebs.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I think your problem can be traced to the different default voices.
I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with the same
config, like I have one in FreeBSD, on the same PC.
I wonder if FreeBSD's
On 9/15/09, 4625 4625...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:39:46 -0400 Tom Smith wrote:
But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that while
Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and PetaBytes of
Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine firewall or desktop or mail
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 01:35:58PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I think your problem can be traced to the different default voices.
I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with the same
config, like I have one in
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:36:08PM +0100, Fred Crowson wrote:
But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that while
Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and PetaBytes of
Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine firewall or desktop or mail server,
etc and point out that
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:08:55PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I think your problem can be traced to the different default
voices.
I've test timidity with a different sound fonts and with the
same config, like I have one in FreeBSD, on the same PC.
I wonder if
On 18/09/2009, at 11:59 AM, 4625 wrote:
I like fluidsynth.
Well, I got it. Could you explain me how do you ran it?
Are you serious?
the way the manual says to.
What make you think that I did not saw the manual?
You should probably stop posting about now, you're starting to make
Oh, these arguments are rich! They never cease to crack me up.
So and so crypto cipher is weak...blah blah blah...
Show me the cluster of supercomputers than can break them in
any kind of meaningful time frame and I *might* start to
worry. Oh wait, I forgot about those super secret NSA ones...
I still hear people telling that OpenBSD is secure. It's of course
true, but e.g. vnconfig uses quite weak crypto mechanism.
Will you break mine?
Sorry, I won't :-)
I just wanted to know what's true on that (read thread some time back
where this is discussed).
I still hear people telling that OpenBSD is secure. It's of course
true, but e.g. vnconfig uses quite weak crypto mechanism.
Will you break mine?
I just wanted to know what's true on that (read thread some time back
where this is discussed).
Claiming its weak seems like a bad way to get
Remember Optimization is the root of all evil from Knuth ?
Why optimize something if it isn't needed ? if you show me something
that clearly won't solve a problem due to it's performance, it's time to
optimize otherwise it's just wasting time. Uhh but this could be faster
yeah, and gnu ls could
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:36:49AM -0300, Christiano Farina Haesbaert wrote:
| Remember Optimization is the root of all evil from Knuth ?
Misquoting does not help your case.
*PREMATURE* optimization is the root of all evil.
Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
--
hmm, on Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:14:27AM +, Jacob Meuser said that
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:09:32AM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 06:46:27PM +, Jacob Meuser said that
so who's benchmarking install/upgrade time? lost time due to
instability? lost
2009/9/16 Paul de Weerd we...@weirdnet.nl:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:36:49AM -0300, Christiano Farina Haesbaert
wrote:
| Remember Optimization is the root of all evil from Knuth ?
Misquoting does not help your case.
*PREMATURE* optimization is the root of all evil.
Ooops my mistake,
* Cian Brennan cian.bren...@redbrick.dcu.ie [2009-09-15 23:32]:
OpenBSD sucks at this one. The fact that base isn't packaged is a *huge* pain
if you run lots of it. As is the short support timeline.
bullshit. i run way over a hundred openbsd machines. upgrades take me
less than 5 minutes.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Building from source is light years more difficult than
'apt-get update apt-get upgrade, or 'yum upgrade' or
the like.
so don't fucking do it, use releases and packages.
So how does one remedy CVE-2009-0696 like
From: L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Henning Brauer wrote:
Building from source is light years
more difficult than 'apt-get update apt-get upgrade, or 'yum
upgrade' or the
like.
so don't fucking do it, use releases and packages.
*OR* learn how to use environment
On 15/09/2009, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
i have a bgp machine forwarding 800MBit/s of real world generic
internet traffic. can handle at least twice that. enough of a
benchmark?
Any chance you could post the spec. of said machine?
I'd especially be interested in
* - Tethys tet...@gmail.com [2009-09-16 17:37]:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Building from source is light years more difficult than
'apt-get update apt-get upgrade, or 'yum upgrade' or
the like.
so don't fucking do it, use releases
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
And that attitude is why OpenBSD will never be more than a hobby OS. Sigh.
Tet
--
b It seems
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
Once you have a built release you can run upgrades everywhere from
that release tarball.
man release
to figure out how to do that.
Now you may ask, why don't we do that? We simply do not have the
resources and time to
devote racks of
If there genuinely is something as easy as yum update bind, then
great. But if so, it doesn't seem to be documented, and this is the
reason I haven't rolled out more OpenBSD boxen in the real world. I
run OpenBSD on my own machines. But I'm with Cian here. Keeping up
to date really is its
Ross Cameron wrote:
On 15/09/2009, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
i have a bgp machine forwarding 800MBit/s of real world generic
internet traffic. can handle at least twice that. enough of a
benchmark?
Any chance you could post the spec. of said machine?
I'd especially be
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
And that attitude is why OpenBSD will
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
And that attitude is why OpenBSD will
Marco Peereboom escribis:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
And that attitude
OP Here. Wow. Did not mean to start this sort of discussion. I only wanted
some suggestions on how to deal with critics of OpenBSD's performance that I
run into on occasion who cite that old, outdated, silly article.
Anyway, thanks for all the performance feedback. As to the others, in this
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:59:43 -0700 (PDT)
4625 4625...@gmail.com wrote:
From: 4625 4625...@gmail.com
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:59:43 -0700 (PDT)
Sender: owner-m...@openbsd.org
Organization: Buzzer
X-Mailer: 4158xHC1dZubQ
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine
On 2009-09-16, Peter Kay - Syllopsium syllops...@syllopsium.com wrote:
At the risk of a flaming, sysmerge is also a pain in the arse. Once you
know how to use patch files and diff properly I'm sure it is absolutely
wonderful, but it also copes badly with files that have not changed
in any
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:22:19PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2009-09-16, Peter Kay - Syllopsium syllops...@syllopsium.com wrote:
At the risk of a flaming, sysmerge is also a pain in the arse. Once you
know how to use patch files and diff properly I'm sure it is absolutely
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
[snipzorz]
It is exactly your attitude that has ruined the computer industry.
You have an odd definition of professional, and the kind of attitude that
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:30:47PM +0300, Jussi Peltola wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:22:19PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2009-09-16, Peter Kay - Syllopsium syllops...@syllopsium.com wrote:
At the risk of a flaming, sysmerge is also a pain in the arse. Once you
know how to
I think you're missing the point; marco was talking about the dumbing down of
what's considered acceptible for being called a professional; in this case,
mostly the fact that once you start presenting system administration as a
series of buttons to push, you get button-pushing monkeys, not
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:55:44PM -0600, Bob Beck wrote:
I think you're missing the point; marco was talking about the dumbing down
of
what's considered acceptible for being called a professional; in this
case,
mostly the fact that once you start presenting system administration as
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:01:49 + Jacob Meuser wrote:
But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that
while Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and
PetaBytes of Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine firewall or desktop
or mail server, etc and point out that the
Marco Peereboom escribis:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
And that
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:59:35PM +0100, Cian Brennan wrote:
You have an odd definition of professional, and the kind of attitude that
sounds like you haven't actually worked in the computer industry in a while.
Generally, the computer industry is about providing services to end users. And
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:54:06PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:14:27AM +, Jacob Meuser said that
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:09:32AM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 06:46:27PM +, Jacob Meuser said that
so who's
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:47:08 +0100 - Tethys wrote:
And that attitude is why OpenBSD will never be more than a hobby OS.
The same words I can say about Linux.
--
/4625
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:20:05 -0400 Tom Smith wrote:
Anyway, thanks for all the performance feedback. As to the others, in
this thread, who find using or managing OpenBSD difficult, I'd say
...make OS for newbies, and only newbies will want to use this OS.
--
/4625
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:36:49 -0300 Christiano Farina Haesbaert wrote:
Remember Optimization is the root of all evil from Knuth ?
To act contrary to common sense would be ignore optimization. Look on
MS Windows - each new version require more resources and constrain to
buy new hardware every 2-3
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:39:31 +0200 Bret S. Lambert wrote:
1) In X on OpenBSD 4.5 mouse cursor may freeze sometimes. On
FreeBSD 4.11 (on the same PC) - never.
Doesn't happen for me... Did you ever report this? with
information to reproduce it? I do not think so.
It is not a bug,
Bob Beck wrote:
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
Once you have a built release you can run upgrades everywhere from
that release tarball.
man release
to figure out how to do that.
Now you may ask, why don't we do that? We simply do not have the
resources
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:01:02PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:01:49 + Jacob Meuser wrote:
But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that
while Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and
PetaBytes of Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine
Bob Beck wrote:
Once you have a built release you can run upgrades everywhere from
that release tarball.
man release
to figure out how to do that.
Now you may ask, why don't we do that? We simply do not have the
resources and time to
devote racks of machines, developer time, and internet
I have been actively maintaining a firewall cluster and a VPN cluster of
BSD system since 3.5. I have upgraded each system from a factory boot cd
every 6 - 8 months. I have never had any problems due the to upgrade
not once. I run a 4000 PC network in a 24x7 Health Care environment.
There is
But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that
while Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and
PetaBytes of Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine firewall or desktop
or mail server, etc and point out that the old article so many
people cite is indeed
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 04:14:13PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
But, I'd like to have hard technicaly data to demonstrate that
while Linux and FreeBSD may scale to a gazillion CPUs and
PetaBytes of Memory that OpenBSD makes a fine firewall or desktop
or mail server, etc and point out
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de
wrote:
Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
And that attitude is
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Bret S. Lambert wrote:
I think you're missing the point; marco was talking about the dumbing down of
what's considered acceptible for being called a professional; in this case,
mostly the fact that once you start presenting system administration as a
series of buttons to
But come on Bret, that's what the industry WANTS.. you can PAY monkeys
less!
Push Butan
...receive bacon lube
Keep it Sizzlin!
(you can't hear it but I'm doing the little techno pelvic dance right now..)
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I wonder if FreeBSD's patch-playmidi would make any difference.
It is not port or patch problem, but perfomance (on my opinion).
well, that patch sure looks like it's correcting an inopportune typo.
but I'm not a timidity
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca wrote:
boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
Once you have a built release you can run upgrades everywhere from
that release tarball.
man release
to figure out how to do that.
Now you may ask, why don't we
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 07:15:36PM -0600, Bob Beck wrote:
But come on Bret, that's what the industry WANTS.. you can PAY monkeys
less!
Push Butan
...receive bacon lube
Keep it Sizzlin!
(you can't hear it but I'm doing the little techno pelvic dance right now..)
And,
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:57:43PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
What if I'm unable make better report?
http://www.openbsd.org/report.html
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 06:39:30PM -0700, 4625 wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I wonder if FreeBSD's patch-playmidi would make any difference.
It is not port or patch problem, but perfomance (on my opinion).
well, that patch sure looks like it's
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:15:27AM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
hmm, on Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23:58PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that
like to prove. In the end many of fefe's test programs did not actually
measure what he assumed they would.
and he was open to get patches to remedy those
So since benchmarking is out, how do we then find out where
potential problems are.
What does OpenBSD developers do, since surely they don't benchmark :)
Maybe we should profile instead ?
I'm not very experienced with webservers, but here
how i would approach it.
1. i have a problem, i think
On 14.09-20:43, Nick Holland wrote:
[ ... ]
Speed matters. Almost as much as some things, and nowhere near as
much as others.
beautifully specific and vague, i'd challenge anyone to sum up
benchmarking better. if that's not a quote, it is now; i'm writing
it down and sticking it to my wall.
ttw+...@cobbled.net wrote:
On 14.09-20:43, Nick Holland wrote:
[ ... ]
Speed matters. Almost as much as some things, and nowhere near as
much as others.
beautifully specific and vague, i'd challenge anyone to sum up
benchmarking better. if that's not a quote, it is now; i'm writing
it
Practically speaking, the people who need the performance at the
edge of what OpenBSD can deliver usually are too busy to argue
benchmarks.
Precisely.
* Nick n...@holland-consulting.net [2009-09-15 13:52]:
Yep. Most performance-oriented thing I've done with OpenBSD was
firewalling a 45Mbps T3 line. It did tax the machine a little bit,
but the primary firewall was a Celeron 600, about five years old at
the time it was put into service
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:43:26AM +0200, Mic J wrote:
So since benchmarking is out, how do we then find out where
potential problems are.
What does OpenBSD developers do, since surely they don't benchmark :)
Maybe we should profile instead ?
I'm not very experienced with webservers, but
Henning Brauer wrote:
* Nick n...@holland-consulting.net [2009-09-15 13:52]:
Yep. Most performance-oriented thing I've done with OpenBSD was
firewalling a 45Mbps T3 line. It did tax the machine a little bit,
but the primary firewall was a Celeron 600, about five years old at
the time it was
* Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net [2009-09-15 16:21]:
Henning Brauer wrote:
* Nick n...@holland-consulting.net [2009-09-15 13:52]:
Yep. Most performance-oriented thing I've done with OpenBSD was
firewalling a 45Mbps T3 line. It did tax the machine a little bit,
but the primary firewall
-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
Von: Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net
Gesendet: 15.09.09 16:20:09
An: misc misc@openbsd.org
Betreff: Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance
Henning Brauer wrote:
* Nick n...@holland-consulting.net [2009-09-15 13:52]:
Yep. Most performance-oriented thing
performance issue. How do others defend OpenBSD in these conversations? I
I don't defend. Just let everyone use what they want.
If I may ask here. One thing that would be nice for the records is to
get a little bit more details on your setup doing that if you have no
problem providing it obviously. Specially the PF configuration tie to
this bgp router as well may well be very educating to many.
I don't know how
Hi Henning,
-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@[...] on Behalf
Of Henning Brauer
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance
* Nick n...@holland-consulting.net [2009-09-15 13:52]:
[...]
i have a bgp machine forwarding 800MBit/s
1 - 100 of 144 matches
Mail list logo
