Re: [mochikit] Is MochiKit Dead?

2011-08-15 Thread Chris Snyder
Not Dead: Feature Complete.

Since this issue comes up every year or so, I think there should be a
simple explanation on the website homepage, something like:

MochiKit is considered feature complete at version 1.4, and is
therefore not in active development. It simply does what we have
needed it to do for quite a few years so we haven't bothered to make
any major changes to it. Contributions and improvements are welcome
via GitHub.

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Re: [mochikit] Is MochiKit Dead?

2011-08-15 Thread Bob Ippolito
Good idea. Done!

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Chris Snyder chsny...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not Dead: Feature Complete.

 Since this issue comes up every year or so, I think there should be a
 simple explanation on the website homepage, something like:

 MochiKit is considered feature complete at version 1.4, and is
 therefore not in active development. It simply does what we have
 needed it to do for quite a few years so we haven't bothered to make
 any major changes to it. Contributions and improvements are welcome
 via GitHub.


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Re: [mochikit] Is MochiKit Dead?

2011-08-14 Thread Per Cederberg
Agreed. Nowadays I'm also in maintenance-only-mode with respect to
MochiKit. Meaning that I'll only address critical bugs or merge
well-documented  tested patches. The MochiKit.Text module and version
1.5 won't progress further unless someone else steps up to do the
work.

That said, I'm still using MochiKit where it makes sense. Preferably
in conjunction with jQuery. Would be nice to eventually package up
MochiKit into separate pieces that glue better into jQuery in some
ways. But the custom packaging solution we have right now also allows
to strip out some obvious duplicated stuff...

Cheers,

/Per

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 20:45, Bob Ippolito b...@redivi.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:35 AM, machineghost machinegh...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, given that:

 * There hasn't been a blog post on the website in ... ever (according
 to the front of the site; in reality there was a post back in 2008)
 * There hasn't been a release since 2008
 * This mailing list gets a post (with no response) once every other
 month or so, if that
 * MochiKit is less popular than random frameworks I've never heard of
 (xajax? what's that?) by a factor of six (http://www.readwriteweb.com/
 hack/2011/08/javascript-framework-popularit.php)

 it really seems like MochiKit is a dead project, or at best a zombie
 project.  Is that accurate?  I mean, obviously people currently using
 it aren't going to stop, but is new development, promotion of the
 framework, improvement of the website/docs/etc. dead?

 Zombie sounds about accurate to me, we still use it but it's done what
 we've needed it to do for quite a few years so we haven't bothered to
 make any changes to it. We don't have a lot of incentive to encourage
 other people to use it, especially at this point. If someone is
 interested in making improvements they're more than welcome to do so,
 it's all pretty much github based these days so accepting pull
 requests, adding contributors and updating the site is very easy.

 -bob

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[mochikit] Is MochiKit Dead?

2011-08-13 Thread machineghost
So, given that:

* There hasn't been a blog post on the website in ... ever (according
to the front of the site; in reality there was a post back in 2008)
* There hasn't been a release since 2008
* This mailing list gets a post (with no response) once every other
month or so, if that
* MochiKit is less popular than random frameworks I've never heard of
(xajax? what's that?) by a factor of six (http://www.readwriteweb.com/
hack/2011/08/javascript-framework-popularit.php)

it really seems like MochiKit is a dead project, or at best a zombie
project.  Is that accurate?  I mean, obviously people currently using
it aren't going to stop, but is new development, promotion of the
framework, improvement of the website/docs/etc. dead?

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Re: [mochikit] Is MochiKit Dead?

2011-08-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:35 AM, machineghost machinegh...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, given that:

 * There hasn't been a blog post on the website in ... ever (according
 to the front of the site; in reality there was a post back in 2008)
 * There hasn't been a release since 2008
 * This mailing list gets a post (with no response) once every other
 month or so, if that
 * MochiKit is less popular than random frameworks I've never heard of
 (xajax? what's that?) by a factor of six (http://www.readwriteweb.com/
 hack/2011/08/javascript-framework-popularit.php)

 it really seems like MochiKit is a dead project, or at best a zombie
 project.  Is that accurate?  I mean, obviously people currently using
 it aren't going to stop, but is new development, promotion of the
 framework, improvement of the website/docs/etc. dead?

Zombie sounds about accurate to me, we still use it but it's done what
we've needed it to do for quite a few years so we haven't bothered to
make any changes to it. We don't have a lot of incentive to encourage
other people to use it, especially at this point. If someone is
interested in making improvements they're more than welcome to do so,
it's all pretty much github based these days so accepting pull
requests, adding contributors and updating the site is very easy.

-bob

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