(see the guide) the string is sent to
the browser. If there are exceptions, I parse/send an error template with
the error in the template.
I'm curious Matt, as opposed to what?, reparsing the template each
run? Clearly reparsing would be a big loser in terms of performance.
As opposed
On 8 Jun 2000, Stephen Zander wrote:
As Matt has already commented, in the handler the method call
overheads swamps all the other activities. so concat_print
aggrlist_print (yes, method invocation in perl really is that bad).
When you remove that overhead the extra OPs in aggrlist_print
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Barrie Slaymaker wrote:
Stephen Zander wrote:
As Matt has already commented, in the handler the method call
overheads swamps all the other activities.
Just to clarify: that's only important if you are doing very few other
activities, or if those other activities
to be respawned
everytime the interpretor is needed. Thanks!
Yes, mod_perl is faster than CGI. There are a few "gotcha's", but these
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r the worst case scenario of multi_print
with no buffering you're managing nearly 22,000 outputs a second. Now
granted, the output isn't exactly of normal size, but I think what it
comes down to is that the way you choose to print is going to make almost
zero difference in any real world mod_perl application. The overhead of
URL parsing, resource location, and actually running your handler is going
to take far more overhead by the looks of things.
Perhaps this section should be (re)moved into a posterity section, for it
seems fairly un-informative to me.
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of difference it makes. I'm willing to
bet: barely any between averages.
Perhaps I was a little strong: Lets not deprecate this part of the guide,
just provide some realism in the conclusion.
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Eric Cholet wrote:
This said, i hurry back to s/"constant strings"/'constant strings'/g;
Those two are equal.
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}...
Go to the line that reads:
eval { {$cv}($r, @_) } if $r-seqno;
Ugh... Hate that syntax - can we patch it to:
eval { $cv-($r, @_) } if $r-seqno;
It's so much less cryptic.
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On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Just a "heads up" about the exceptions section of the guide. Don't try and
create more than one generic exception handler on your server. As I've
just discovered it really confuses things. Create
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Geoffrey Young wrote:
hi all...
I'm not sure if some you remember the idea Vivek and Matt had about creating
a handler that mapped, say, http://localhost/Foo/doit to Foo-doit()
anyway, the relevant part of the thread
I've snipped the lengthy explanation. Here's a few things you can check:
There's no old version of your module in the ordinary perl lib directory,
rather than the i386-foo/ directory.
That you use DynaLoader.
That you define $VERSION before the bootstrap line.
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AN release: SimpleException.pm or something?
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rather than mod_perl. Still a PITA for me ;-)
Config: Apache 1.3.12, Perl 5.00503, mod_perl 1.24. Non-DSO.
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Replying to my own post... I found the problem - I was caching a
subrequest in the child's memory and trying to call lookup_* again with
that cached request. Doesn't work for fairly obvious reasons.
On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Running under httpd -X, first time through my
post
one more notice in case someone responsible for that address gets this
post and wants to check it to find out why my text-only messages from
netscape/Yahoo!mail are being bounced. =o)
Well they do contain spam/adverts in them...
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, the language
independent nature of this (other than OO being a requirement) was the
real reason I bothered with it at all.
My question is this -- has anyone written an implementation of the
Java Bean standard in Perl?
CORBA::ORBit?
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. Opportunities for growth and advancement
will abound for the candidate that demonstrates the ability to do the
work of 20 ordinary people while still leaving lots of time for a
satisfying personal life.
Aww dammnit, and I can only leap tall buildings in a single bound. Shucks.
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method, but it seems to be read-only.
Is there any simple way to make Apache log some knowN string (say
$ENV{SESSION_id}) to the user field? Or do I have to write complete
LogHandler for it? Thanks for your help.
$r-auth_name($username);
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modules you can use the
techniques used by the Filter/Chain modules, or what AxKit does is
overload Apache.pm's print() method and catches the output that way.
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followed it's evolution, turning into a big
mess. I suspect there are probably days when Chris thinks about re-writing
the whole thing from scratch ;-)
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GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: virtualhost
return
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of segfaults, none of which went unsolved as far as I
know...
Ah well, there are still stability issues, but that's C programming for
you ;-)
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the same kind of thing. How about HTML::FormGen?
HTML::Forms?
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On Tue, 23 May 2000, Brigitte Defoort wrote:
Hey... I hope that it is the correct address to post this : Josh is it ? ;-)
It's not the correct address. You included a mod_perl mailing list, and
your job has no perl content at all.
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to use only had 32
segments and something like 10 semaphore identifiers. In order to scale
a system, you'll need to recompile the kernel with higher limits.
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hunting, or looking for a free software project to work on to
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On Fri, 19 May 2000, Russell Hay wrote:
BSDi/4.1 ... cannot find libperl.so.
Find the directory on your machine with libperl.so in it
(probably /usr/libdata/perl5/i386-bsdos/5.00402/CORE or
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00502/i386-bsdos/CORE/), add it to
/etc/ld.so.conf, and run ldconfig.
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, consider
using a hash - that will give you a slight speed penalty at the benefit of
not consuming quite so much ram. Other things to consider:
Re-write this critical bit of code in XS (not as hard as it sounds).
Use a database.
Use the filesystem.
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to something
that could work? It's all built in perl so you're free to add and remove
stopwords or change the min word length as you like.
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or stylesheets.
just my 2p.
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(*) Perl supported in AxKit, Java and Javascript supported in Cocoon.
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-request;
...
MOD_PERL_CODE
Better still:
eval {
die unless $ENV{MOD_PERL};
require Apache;
my $r = $Apache-request;
...
};
Then you've got no (at least much less than the above) run-time overhead.
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subroutine or variable names into your
package. It is exactly equivalent to
BEGIN { require Module; import Module LIST; }
^^^
except that Module Imust be a bareword.
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On Thu, 18 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote:
"DM" == Doug MacEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DM On Wed, 17 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Well, this may be true, but if you load IO::File before startup then it's
not too big a deal...
DM but it still adds a great dea
, and should be split (IMO) on =head1's.
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involving perl. Try searching for
Apache::Constants, for example.
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() if it fails
# non-db stuff that calls die() if it fails
$db-commit;
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ate domain
(modperlguide.org?, guide.perl.apache.org?)?
guide.modperl.org ?
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I've heard, but:
* Where is it? (doing a Find on the front page doesn't show it)
At the bottom of all guide pages.
* Does it do highlighting?
No.
* Can you select a subset of the site? (e.g. just the Guide)
No.
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limitation, IMHO. However
patching it to support that shouldn't be too hard.
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necessary that I do this, of course, it would just
be nice so I can use Apache::File-tmpfile(). Of course I can do the
same basic thing with POSIX::tmpnam().)
Or IO::File-new_tmpfile();
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On Wed, 17 May 2000, Jim Winstead wrote:
On May 17, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Or IO::File-new_tmpfile();
I'd rather not go there.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperlm=95454378223412w=2
Well, this may be true, but if you load IO::File before startup then it's
not too big a deal
stylesheets).
AxKit: http://xml.sergeant.org/axkit/
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ike useful frameworks. :)
Nah - go for it. AxKit's XMLFinder does something pretty similar, only in
not quite as generic a way, so it would be perfectly possible.
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Emai
nteraction. I'm also working on an XML
compiler for this, that compiles XML into Perl code generating SAX events.
If any of this gets your interest, then wander on over to
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?? I have looked apache site and cpan site..
but couldn't find any documentation...
Can somebody give me some idea please??
I can do better than give you some advice!
http://www.modperl.com/book/chapters/ch6.html
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"../../index.html" which seems ugly IMO)
If you're doing site-wide URL re-writing, you might as well re-write
outside URL's to a redirect CGI, so that the session doesn't go in the
referer.
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Apache::StatINC: Can't locate /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.0 at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/Apache/StatINC.pm line 19.
Granted this is a development server and I do some wierd stuff, but that's
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the error :)
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daemon, and there's other stuff that I _can't_ use
it for, like in the kernel.
Do a web search for perlfs - yes someone really did embed perl into the
Linux kernel ;-)
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- that's certainly all that appears to be taught here in the UK
(learning languages has to be done on your own time generally, even ones
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on. Whereas more IP addresses really doesn't tell you much - especially if
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?
Install a handler that sets $r-filename:
$r-filename($r-filename . '.xml') if -e ($r-filename . '.xml');
(note that AxKit can do all this for you, and comes with a FileSuffix
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There's a real good reply below, but terribly formatted (all italics).
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a PerlHandler that does $r-internal_redirect(URI);
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for
PerlSetVar, you can have only PerlAddVar for everything.
And/or PerlSetVar to reset the list to 1 element.
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into your server
apxs:Error: binary `/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd'.
But it compiles correctly anyhow. Is this just a check to make sure you
have mod_so compiled in?
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/xsl' = 'Apache::AxKit::Language::XSLT' ],
...
);
/Perl
I don't see why not, and I haven't tested it, but I just thought I'd
double check here first.
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Answering myself: It works.
Damn this product (mod_perl) is cool!
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
I have someone on the AxKit list asking if there's a way to do
configuration outside of .htaccess files. I figure rather than writing
some new code to do this, Perl sections could
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Answering myself: It works.
Damn this product (mod_perl) is cool!
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
I have someone on the AxKit list asking if there's a way to do
configuration outside
On Fri, 5 May 2000, brian moseley wrote:
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Actually the idea comes from setting up the style map
based on an external XML site map, which would do things
similar to apache's Files and Location directives,
and then put them into the appropriate
. This problem is using the Oracle 8.1.5 libraries.
Thanks,
Matt
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
I do now - just uploaded a new version. It's still not correct though - a
proper fix would have to pull SetHandler out of mod_mime altogether, I
guess. For example, say your config contains:
oh yeah
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote:
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
How do you get at $r in a directive handler?
other way around, you get at directive handler config from a handler,
which has been passed $r, e.g.:
sub handler {
my $r = shift;
my $cfg
On Thu, 4 May 2000, raptor wrote:
hi,
someone to know is there Apache::ModuleConfig as separate package...?
No, it comes with mod_perl. I think you require mod_perl 1.17 or
higher. Can anyone on the mod_perl list confirm this?
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On Thu, 4 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
Yeah, I've been thinking about it. There was one site that has offered me
to provide a good search engine and they did, but the problem is that they
didn't keep
to convert home made tags with data,
then you're probably going to love AxKit. It's an XML based solution,
using W3C standards, that offers a caching template solution for you.
http://xml.sergeant.org/axkit/
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It's
not a language use I've come across before, so maybe further explanation
is required. But before you get back to me, take a look at
http://xml.sergeant.org/axkit/ and see if it's in any way what you're
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not a huge amount of help, but you reading the mod_perl guide will
be: http://perl.apache.org/guide/
Look for the bits on memory usage (I'm sure someone here will give you a
direct URL in about 5 minutes...).
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cking and suggesting, and you'll
shape where it goes from here.
(with AxKit, association with different media devices from the standard
W3C list is automatic, and picking a stylesheet based on alternates is
just a plugin away). http://xml.sergeant.org/axkit/
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required to
deliver the sort of dynamic application that serves from databases or user
input using this kind of MVC system. But I'm working on it. Hopefully
others will soon too...
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ot set on the name PerlAddVar, if that's
anyone's concern - but what about the idea of it?)
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ey val
Sounds cool to me. Naming things is still the hardest problem in Computer
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etting multiple values
for non-programmers, and it breaks as soon as you start needing spaces in
values or something wierd that happens to break the parser code (from the
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rom
arrays), but PerlSetArray and PerlPushArray seem quite
useful to me - although I don't think the name is quite right - if I'm
doing stuff for non-programmers, the name "Array" means nothing to them,
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). Anyway, the solution I came up with was
just sprintf:
##.## becomes %2.2f
.## becomes %4.2f
Pad all strings with (" " x 80) before using, and set their length with:
%.25s for a max 25 char string.
Or prefix the string with (" " x 80) for right-justifying.
Works lik
for some mod_rewrite examples from a couple of weeks ago on this list.
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to that new package. Apache::XPathScript stylesheets are
turning in at about 80 hits/sec on my development box (heavily overloaded
box running Apache::StatINC and a lot of other stuff).
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Gerald Richter wrote:
Gerald, what about Embperl, does it escape \x8b?
No, there is no html escape for \x8b (and I guess the other one Matt
mentioned is \0x8d for ) I know, so Embperl will not escape it, but this
could be simply change by an entry in epchar.c. Any
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Marc Slemko wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Unfortunately there's also a browser bug to contend with. They treat \x8b
(I think that's the right code) as and there's a similar code for
. Since most web developers are just doing s//lt;/g
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Matt Sergeant wrote:
I'm behind a 64k leased line here (net access is *extremely* expensive
here in the UK) and I was thinking, a proxy front end is probably really
not necessary for me. Worst case scenario: I get 8 clients connecting to
my
available at the moment, after
installing type "perldoc Apache::XMLStylesheet" to get general install
instructions.
Discussion of AXDTK takes place on the mailing list. Sent a mail to
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is just making more work! Just a thought for anyone
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delivered from the cache or chain of
caches it is more efficient that's for sure.. and that always is better IMHO
If I can't serve pages any faster, or to more people because of bandwidth
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in the amount of free resources
for other programs.
I'm going to try it. I'll let people know...
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
1 mod_perl process could handle all the load
you could possibly generate, and just let the mod_proxies build up and
you'll see a lot lower memory usage on your box... seriously, in low
bandwidth situations if your using the box for more than
DocumentRoot...
ErrorLog...
CustomLog...
/VirtualHost
... etc, for all nbvh's.
It can't be this hard, can it? I just want my vhosts config on 1 server -
not both! And I don't want to be changing my setup - i.e. no mod_rewrite
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Vivek Khera wrote:
"MS" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MS OK, just to get this onto a different subject line... I can't seem to get
MS mod_proxy to work on the front end with name based virtual hosts on the
MS backend, I can only get it to work
open to this bug - I think Lincoln has fixed the
HTMLEncode function now though.
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seeing set_handlers as persisting with the child and push_handlers
as being per-request. Personally, I'd rather have set_handlers per-request
as well for situations where I want to add a handler but reorder it with the
existing ones as well...
set_handlers is per-request.
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interest in this mail me direct and I'll set something up.
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I had a pretty good response to the offer of a mailing list for the Apache
XML Delivery Toolkit - and very fast too!
So before more people say yes go ahead... send a blank mail to
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
According to Matt Sergeant:
In case you missed it - I just announce the Apache XML Delivery Toolkit to
both the modperl list and the Perl-XML list. With it you can develop an
XSLT Apache module in 13 lines of code (no caching, but it works
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
The only thing I can think of, is that Apache::MimeXML is somehow stopping
the PerlHandler phase from being executed. Can it do that (but still allow
nger!
Download AXDTK at http://xml.sergeant.org/download/
It's not well organised right now. The key component is
Apache::XMLStylesheet. To use that you need XML::Parser and
Apache::MimeXML(0.05). The only plugins available are Apache::XPathScript
and Apache::XPath::NotXSLT, and an XSLT plugin that's in the lis
? (we're talking 20 requests/sec vs 80
here - a huge difference).
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