Re: Prerequistie for Marpa::HTML

2010-03-22 Thread sawyer x
Hi On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jeffrey jeffreykeg...@jeffreykegler.comwrote: As far as I can tell the actual behavior of Module::Build would be more in accord with the following: Modules listed in this section are necessary to build and install the given module. If a listed module is

Re: Prerequistie for Marpa::HTML

2010-03-22 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Jeffrey jeffreykeg...@jeffreykegler.com [2010-03-22 00:50]: @Aristotle: Your two one-syllable answers were very useful. I realised afterwards that the mail reads somewhat gruff rather than (as intended) amused. Sorry. An obstacle for me was that Module::Build's actual behavior seems to

Re: Prerequistie for Marpa::HTML

2010-03-22 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Jeffrey # on Saturday 20 March 2010 20:32: An obstacle for me was that Module::Build's actual behavior seems to contradict the documentation in Module::Build::API, which says of 'build_requires' that Modules listed in this section are necessary to build and install the given module, but

Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread Bill Moseley
For quite some time I've created modules for internal use and I don't bother with h2xs anymore for non-xs modules and I just copy-n-paste some existing Makefile.PL I have from another package. As a result of some choice a while back all my modules use Module::Install. I guess I like the

Re: Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread Jerry D. Hedden
For the modules I put on CPAN, I use ExtUtils::MakeMaker/Makefile.PL because it is universally installed on all Perl versions that I support, and I have not found a need to migrate to something else.

Re: Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread Hans Dieter Pearcey
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:35:56 -0700, Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org wrote: So, I'm curious. Is there any kid of consensus on what to use for new modules and why? No. The closest is don't use MakeMaker, but even that's something people will still argue about. hdp.

Re: Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread Andy Lester
On Mar 22, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: No. The closest is don't use MakeMaker, but even that's something people will still argue about. And for module starting you have both Module::Starter and Dist::Zilla. -- Andy Lester = a...@petdance.com = www.theworkinggeek.com =

Re: Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org wrote: So, I'm curious. Is there any kid of consensus on what to use for new modules and why?  Or is it still mostly a matter of opinion? It's completely a matter of opinion. Schwern, who maintains ExtUtils::MakeMaker, has said in

Re: Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread Dominique Dumont
Le lundi 22 mars 2010 20:50:51, David Golden a écrit : Module::Install gives EU::MM a friendlier interface -- I'd even say a new lease on life -- at the cost of increased complexity from its black box and the risk that you, as a distribution the author, might have to re-release everything if a

Re: Consensus on MakeMaker vs. Module::Build vs. Module::Install?

2010-03-22 Thread Jonathan Yu
Speaking also as a Debian packager, and notwithstanding Dominique's comments that we dislike Module::Install, I'd like to provide some additional clarification: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Dominique Dumont domi.dum...@free.fr wrote: Module::Install raises a lot of problems downstream. I