Re: rt.cpan.org is going away

2021-01-21 Thread Dave Rolsky
il the address provided on TPF's web > site and got this: > > 550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User > unknown in virtual mailbox table > This should be fixed. The info@ address will work now, but I've changed the website to use hello@, which goes to the right people.

Re: Assistance naming a module

2017-01-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
ent-Recurrence not do what you need? I think it does everything you describe. Cheers, Dave Rolsky http://blog.urth.org https://github.com/autarch

Re: Perl Modules in GitHub

2016-03-28 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016, Jerry D. Hedden wrote: Okay, I see that GitHub allows me to create organizations which I presume is what you're referring to as groups. Are there existing organizations for which adding the core Perl Modules (threads, threads::shared, etc.) would be appropriate? There's

Re: Conditional installation of XS (or graceful fallback)

2013-09-18 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013, David Oswald wrote: List::BinarySearch provides and installed the pure-Perl List::BinarySearch::PP. If a user has installed List::BinarySearch::XS, List::BinarySearch quietly benefits by upgrading to the XS versions of key components. This behavior may be overridden with a

Re: Help Me Name a New Distro for IP Addresses and Subnets

2012-11-12 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Musgrove wrote: Can you explain what functionality wasn't available in NetAddr::IP that you needed? (I use that at work for IP and subnet handling.) Can you talk a little bit about the rough edges you needed to smooth over? There were a few things we needed. Firs

Help Me Name a New Distro for IP Addresses and Subnets

2012-11-12 Thread Dave Rolsky
We created a few new modules for working with IP addresses and subnets at MaxMind which we'd like to release. Internally we've been calling them MM::Net::IPAddress and MM::Net::Subnet but obviously those names won't work for CPAN. I've posted a PrePAN review request to discuss this further -

Re: RFC: the Author:: namespace

2012-09-07 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, sawyer x wrote: It's not about putting weight strain on CPAN mirrors (though I'm not sure it's impossible to make such a claim), but of the pollution of CPAN. CPAN is meant to be a public repository, not a private stash. I have my bunch of things that I like to use too: my

Re: RFC: Time::mkgmtime

2012-07-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, Paul LeoNerd Evans wrote: So, I still haven't got a satisfactory answer to at least part 1 here. The only thing I can find close to it on CPAN is Time::Local, which specifically says that denormalised values give unspecified behaviour. That will be no good to me. Sorry, I n

Re: Naming of Perl module

2011-12-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011, ll...@singletasker.co.uk wrote: The purpose of the module is to find files which match a regular expression. The module currently only has one subroutine which takes two parameters, base_directory and expression. The subroutine traverses all subdirectories of the base dire

Re: Problems with cpan

2011-04-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011, Shawn H Corey wrote: Sigh. Now it can't `make test`: Installing PerlMagick from source is a huge pain in the ass. I strongly suggest you use the Debian packages. It'll make your life much easier. Of course, if you're not using the system Perl, then you're kind of stuck.

Re: best practices for module renaming

2011-02-07 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Xavier Noria wrote: Hi, I am the author of Net::FluidDB, which let's you talk to FluidDB. FluidDB has been renamed to Fluidinfo, and I should rename the module in accordance. Is there a recommended way to do this? Or should I just upload a different distribution and document

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-12-01 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 2 Dec 2010, Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: "Dave Rolsky" We hear the same argument in reverse that people should work on Perl 5 instead of Perl 6, as if the people who are working on Perl 6 would _of course_ be working on Perl 5 if 6 didn't exist. There's no rea

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-12-01 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010, Lyle wrote: On 01/12/2010 07:37, Bill Ward wrote: I think Perl 6 may be the death of Perl. I think it's Perl's last hope. I think minds and time spent on slow Perl 6 ish things like Moose for Perl 5 will be the death of Perl. This is a ridiculous statement. You seem to

Re: What hurts you the most in Perl?

2010-11-26 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Shawn H Corey wrote: Sorry but fork(2) has been around longer than Perl. It is not something new but something very, very old (that's computer old, not human old). He's talking about forks.pm - http://search.cpan.org/dist/forks/ -dave /*

Re: my $self = shift

2010-09-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Nadim Khemir wrote: The surprise was that there was an up to 6% speed difference and the biggest surprise is the inversion of which method is fastest. I'm curious, someone care to comment? In any real application, it's highly unlikely that the spped will be affected by t

Re: When and how to throw exceptions?

2010-03-12 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: I’m sure you can already imagine where this is going: basically, you should check your own intermediate computed values, to ensure you don’t propagate error conditions sideways between parts of your own code. But if you operate on user input direct

Re: Module uploaded - whats next?

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Rene Schickbauer wrote: Hmm, Catalyst is a very mature framework, it does its job well, has good security, many options on how to do database stuff and so on. And thats exactly why i choose not to use it. I had to whip up something in a hurry and i just *knew* i wouldn't ge

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-05 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 5 May 2009, Bill Ward wrote: I'm often having to add a half dozen lines of code to every subroutine to perform argument validation and I'd like to offload it once and for all into a CPAN module. Has anyone written or seen such a beast? I haven't, so I've started writing it... but then,

Re: ShipIt or Module::Release or Dist::Zilla or ..

2009-04-19 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Thomas Klausner wrote: ShipIt doesn't like Module::Build, even though there's a patch available (not applied for more than a year: http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=33081) Or you can use my ShipIt fork at https://hg.urth.org:447/hg/ShipIt/ I gave up on waiting

Re: "a lot of controversy" about Module::Build

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Daniel Staal wrote: Daniel T. Staal (I do actually use M::B, but I _hate_ the 'well it's been out for _X_ years now, so we shouldn't have to worry about it'. If X is less than 10, you have to worry about it. If it's more than 10, be prepared to worry about it if needed.)

RE: "PBP Module Recommendation Commentary" and recent CPAN ratings spammings

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Burak Gürsoy wrote: -Original Message- From: Dave Rolsky [mailto:auta...@urth.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:01 PM To: Burak Gürsoy Cc: module-authors@perl.org Subject: Re: "PBP Module Recommendation Commentary" and recent CPAN ratings spammings

Re: "PBP Module Recommendation Commentary" and recent CPAN ratings spammings

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Burak Gürsoy wrote: http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?pbp_module_recommendation_commentary I started that page, and various other folks have added to it. I think the convention has been that if there's a strong yes or no and you disagree, you change it to a ma

Re: Automated testing

2008-12-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Bill Moseley wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 09:22:02AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: I tired SmokeRunner::Multi with partial success. I got as far as installing it and didn't really get how to use it. But, by then I had a running shell script that does a svn export, builds w

Re: What's up with all these people uploading stuff under their own name.

2008-10-12 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Chris Thompson wrote: I'm not someone who wants to see a hard exclusion on uploads, nor the thought of some sort of policing, but this seems to be a bit ridiculous, no? It just seems to me to be a bad way to maintain an orderly repository. Any thoughts? Well, it seems be

Re: The problem with auto-installing dependencies

2008-10-01 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-10-01 17:05]: Installation and dependency chains are an issue best solved in the context of _applications_. That just moves the problem, though: an that uses modules with lots of dependencies will

Re: The problem with auto-installing dependencies

2008-10-01 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Ricardo SIGNES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-10-01 13:45]: I bet more CPAN authors are the same way. Yeah. I often vacillate a great deal about adding dependencies: • I hate making things harder to install. I’m also loathe to give up control if I

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-09-22 16:45]: It'd probably incorporate some combination of ... * better search engine (fulltext search of all pod) * ratings baked right in so you can search based on rating * trust metrics

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:40:09AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: Instead, what I think needs improvement is the search & filtering bits. Frankly, search.cpan needs to be replaced with something much better (and ya know, open source). I&#

Re: Regulating Module Authorship

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, sawyer x wrote: Perhaps we do need some added guidelines to CPAN. I think you're trying to fix the problem on the wrong end. Regulating CPAN would be bad, because we shouldn't have confidence that we'll do a good job. Making the process of contributing harder would likel

Re: Carp::nosigdie - needs a better name

2008-09-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Acme::landmine uses tie (on %SIG - does that work?) to blow up when the Yes, tying %SIG is possible, and even tying entries in the %SIG hash. See Sig::PackageScoped for an entirely insane example. http://search.cpan.org/~drolsky/Sig-PackageScoped-0.04

Re: Begging for money - too tacky?

2008-07-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, David Cantrell wrote: IIRC Amazon have a donation thing. If you have an Amazon wishlist, point people at that too. About half the donations I get for CPANdeps are in the form of books and DVDs. In my case, I mostly don't want stuff, so I'd really prefer people to send c

Re: Begging for money - too tacky?

2008-07-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking "howzabout me?" might be a g

Re: Begging for money - too tacky?

2008-07-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Sawyer X wrote: Seems like a reasonable idea. I might just suggest a small change in the phrasing. Something along the lines of "I do this out of interest and spare time. However, my time is limited since I have a job (/jobs?) and thus, donating will help me spare more time

Begging for money - too tacky?

2008-07-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking "howzabout me?" I was wondering if anyone had ever put anything in their module POD asking for donations, and if it worked. I wrote something up I was thinking of adding to

Re: CPANTS has_test_pod* metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Eric Wilhelm wrote: # from Dave Rolsky # on Tuesday 10 June 2008 10:23: All of my dists get their pod and pod coverage tested by the maintainer tool instead of "shipping boiler-plate tests which just happen to have certain sorts of names." The point is that

Re: "Maintainer mode"

2008-06-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Eric Roode wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] You don't need to make these tests run for the end user to get the point. All of my dists (should) ship with a pod.t and pod-coverage.t that only runs in "

Re: CPANTS has_test_pod* metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Eric Wilhelm wrote: # from Dave Rolsky # on Tuesday 10 June 2008 08:20:   has_test_pod: Useless.  Why should every end-user have to test the correctness of the module's POD?  The original developer should test it, and the kwalitee metric should test that the mod

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Eric Roode wrote: * Then there are these, which are probably valid metrics, but of questionable utility: buildtool_not_executable: Nearly everyone does "perl Makefile.PL" or "perl Build.PL". Note that this does not specify a specific perl, just the first one in the user

Re: Versioning modules

2008-05-18 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 18 May 2008, nadim khemir wrote: Something like 37c8bee442237c6ccb7ad1d2cef9c2d3ac7de979 I like to generate a distribution automatically including the version number but I'm afraid the above is going to draw flames. It would draw flames because it would break every damn CPAN tool. The

Re: Removing or Archiving outdated and unsupported modules on CPAN; proposal

2008-04-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, John M. Gamble wrote: Your "long-standing bug" may be someone else's feature. Who cares about archiving? What would anyone gain from that? Let's be realistic. A long-standing bug is probably a bug. But yes, archiving would not help. The key point isn't "bug or featu

Re: FAIL Test-Pod-Coverage-1.08 i386-freebsd 6.1-release

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Andy Lester wrote: mkdir blib/lib/Test: No space left on device at /usr/perl5.6.2/lib/5.6.2/ExtUtils/Command.pm line 259 *** Error code 255 So now I have a permanent note of "FAIL" in the records because your automated bot ran out of drive space. I can't put into words

Re: got no sys/ioctl.ph ?

2007-10-21 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Eric Wilhelm wrote: I just released Device::SerialPins, which turns the serial port into a GPIO with per-pin getters and setters. I'm puzzled by the flood of failure reports for unix-like systems, which include even 5.8.8 on linux (close to being my development box, though

Re: (Create a new ?) namespace for applications on CPAN

2007-05-17 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Andy Lester wrote: What's with all these ad hoc appending of "x", like DBIx and RTx? Maybe the componenty parts should be Appx::* ? Well, DBIx is actually something Tim Bunce requested, since he didn't want people adding stuff to the DBI "hierarchy". For Mason extensions

Re: Module name - smoke testing automation

2007-04-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Ovid wrote: --- Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, it's a little more programmatic than that. The svn up part is dirt-simple, but doing something like running "svn info $uri" against the repo uri to get the last changed date requires

Re: Module name - smoke testing automation

2007-04-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Eric Wilhelm wrote: If your 'svn up' support and other aspects were configured as pre_smoke directives in a config, that might make it more easily adaptable than if the code has to be subclassed to do something different. Well, it's a little more programmatic than that. Th

Re: Module name - smoke testing automation

2007-04-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Eric Wilhelm wrote: I would say it's not really a Test:: module if it doesn't get use()d by tests. Of course, Test::Harness and other harnesses have already invaded, so I suppose history wins again. Is it too late to dub "Tester::" or "TestDriver::" or "RunTests::" or "Aut

Re: Module name - smoke testing automation

2007-04-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Andy Lester wrote: On Apr 13, 2007, at 11:58 AM, Dave Rolsky wrote: The core idea is that there are multiple "test sets", which is really any directory that contains a t/ subdirectory with .t files. The app will be a script you can call from cron to run a tes

Module name - smoke testing automation

2007-04-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
I'm working on a module/app that will be used to automate testing multiple branches of a code base. The core idea is that there are multiple "test sets", which is really any directory that contains a t/ subdirectory with .t files. The app will be a script you can call from cron to run a test s

Re: Another non-free license - PerlBuildSystem

2007-02-21 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, David Nicol wrote: On 2/21/07, Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Insisting on _a_ license is actually a really good idea. Absent an explicit license, CPAN does not have the right to redistribute the software, nor do mirrors. that's nonsense. CPAN is eq

Re: Another non-free license - PerlBuildSystem

2007-02-21 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Chris Dolan wrote: "CPAN and PAUSE are not responsible for any licenses or lack thereof contained in the contents of the archive. We do recommend that authors license their modules to avoid legal ambiguity and so that people may use the code in good conscience. If you requ

Another non-free license - PerlBuildSystem

2007-02-16 Thread Dave Rolsky
http://search.cpan.org/dist/PerlBuildSystem/licence.txt I don't know the exact rules of CPAN regarding non-free licenses, so I'm not sure if this should be pulled. Unlike the Bantown license, it probably doesn't prevent CPAN from distributing it. OTOH, if there were a mirror at a .mil address,

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-07 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Joshua ben Jore wrote: I'd just read of Time::Cube, a disjointed rant full of hate speech. This is the kind of content that is most deserving of deletion from CPAN. Would the responsible parties please go nuke this, please? Just to clarify for the curious, to see the bile y

Re: no contact with author

2007-01-02 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Alberto Simões wrote: Accordingly with http://search.cpan.org/~simonflk/, Simon last release date for all modules is 25 Mar 2005. I would say the best approach is to fork it... In this case, if the author is AWOL, the best thing is to ask for ownership of the module so th

In need of a module name

2006-12-30 Thread Dave Rolsky
So I've been working on this thing for a while. What it does it is similar to parts of Alzabo, but it's new code, so it needs a new name. For now I've been calling it "Q" (for Query), but that's not a very CPAN-friendly name. There are modules for representing a database schema, so I have Q::

Re: Another naming question, this time session-related

2005-10-06 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, John Siracusa wrote: It provides a simple API for storing messages (errors and non-errors) and query/form data in the session (basically to help repopulate a form after a redirect on an error). It uses Apache::Session::Wrapper to create the session and then has a very simple

Re: Another naming question, this time session-related

2005-10-06 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, John Siracusa wrote: On 10/6/05, Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So it looks like Rose::URI does what I want Really? I thought you wanted a factory that produced URI(.pm) objects specifically? Well, anyway, I added a way to set the default query param sep

Another naming question, this time session-related

2005-10-06 Thread Dave Rolsky
So it looks like Rose::URI does what I want (name notwithstanding ;) so I probably won't release my URI code (though I could if people are desperate to see it). Next up on the agenda in breaking MasonX::WebApp into tiny pieces ... It provides a simple API for storing messages (errors and non-e

Re: Name for module to construct URI from named params?

2005-10-05 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, John Siracusa wrote: If Dave searched for "URI" or "URI from hash" he'd have seen Rose::URI on the first results page: I did do such a search, but I ignore Rose::URI cause of the name ;) Here's the thing. "Rose::URI" says to me "this module integrates into John's Rose fr

RE: Name for module to construct URI from named params?

2005-10-05 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Orton, Yves wrote: I'm planning to extract some code from MasonX::WebApp and release it separately. All it does is take a set of named params and return a new URI object from it: my $uri = URI::FromHash::uri( scheme => 'http', domain => ... ); It'll probably just have t

Re: Name for module to construct URI from named params?

2005-10-05 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Xavier Noria wrote: On Oct 5, 2005, at 7:39, Dave Rolsky wrote: I'm planning to extract some code from MasonX::WebApp and release it separately. All it does is take a set of named params and return a new URI object from it: my $uri = URI::FromHash::uri( s

Name for module to construct URI from named params?

2005-10-04 Thread Dave Rolsky
I'm planning to extract some code from MasonX::WebApp and release it separately. All it does is take a set of named params and return a new URI object from it: my $uri = URI::FromHash::uri( scheme => 'http', domain => ... ); It'll probably just have that one function, uri(). Any thoughts o

Re: Hash::HasKeys

2005-08-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, David Golden wrote: And I'm not sure if argument processing is really the best point of optimization. If argument checking time is equal or greater than subsequent processing, and that subroutine really is the bottleneck, then it should probably just be inlined anyway.

Re: Hash::HasKeys

2005-08-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-15 14:55]: Params::Check is in pure Perl, P::V is all in XS except for a few bits, so I'd guess P::V is going to be faster. But faster than merely locking a hash for a moment to keep unwanted bit

Re: Hash::HasKeys

2005-08-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, David Golden wrote: Not sure if it's much lighter than Params::Validate, but a quick CPAN search points out Params::Check, which looks similar but with fewer bells and whistles. A quick look at the docs and code suggests you're not going to get much closer to your desired

Re: Hash::HasKeys

2005-08-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Ovid wrote: No. I was trusting my boss's reasoning for not wanting to use P::V and when I saw all of that documentation when I just wanted to check the darned keys, I thought "I don't need all of that." Well, it's definitely overhead. The question is if it's much more o

Re: Hash::HasKeys

2005-08-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Ken Williams wrote: So if I want to avoid the performance impact of Params::Validate, I have to not do what I want to do. I wasn't asking about P::V's disabled mode (I never use that either), I was asking if you actually know its performance hit is too much in its enabled

Re: Switching Maintenance of a CPAN Distribution

2005-07-02 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, James E Keenan wrote: The author of a CPAN distribution has discussed turning over maintenance of that distribution to me. What is the "official" way of doing so? I recall being told that there was a form for this purpose at pause.perl.org. However, none of the sub-pages

Re: check for errors on close()

2005-04-21 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Sam Vilain wrote: Eric Wilhelm wrote: Just spent way too much time trying to find a bug when it turns out that I just had a full disk. So, food for thought for today: close() does not always return true. close(FILE) or die "file error: $!"; In the disk-full case, open() s

Re: Introduction Letter

2005-02-28 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Andrew Savige wrote: Naming. I wonder if your: { use_return => 1 }, is the recommended Perl style for named parameters? I thought not This is pretty common. Pretty much every module I've written uses it ;) -dave /*=== VegG

Re: URLs to Modules

2005-02-07 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Ovid wrote: Perhaps this is a silly question that I should know the answer to, but is there a "canonical" url I can list for a module and always have that point to the latest version? Right now, my choices seem to be: http://search.cpan.org/~$AUTHOR/$MODULE-$VERSION/ use /dis

Re: Class::Validation

2005-01-06 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Daisuke Maki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-11-23 04:06]: In fact, it's really a role-type class, and something like Class::Validating might be better. On top of Dave's suggestion I'm thinking towards the line of Class::ValidateArgs, Class::Validation, Cla

Re: Class::Validation

2005-01-04 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Daisuke Maki wrote: The module is tentatively named Params::Validate::Inheritable, but Dave Rolsky and I neither like that particular idea. To quote Dave: I think P::V::Inheritable isn't quite right for classes that are intended to be generic superclasses, or t

Re: [Module::Build] PPMs for packages built with Module::Build

2004-11-08 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: Do you know if the source to CPANrun is available? My impression was that it was DateTime::Locale's "compatibility" Makefile.PL that was firing up CPAN to get Module::Build, not CPANrun doing it. That's sort of truew. Module::Build doesn't invoke

Re: Future of the "Module List"

2004-07-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Randy W. Sims wrote: > As for the best of the best, I still believe there is a lot of merrit in > the list built from dependencies idea. Only in some areas. For example, the top templating modules are probably, TT, HTML::Template, & Mason. How many modules depend on any of

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-14 19:26]: > > Some of them _are_ registered, but that document you're > > referring to hasn't been regenerated since 2002/08/27! I wish > > the CPAN folks would ju

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Bruno Negrão wrote: > > I would rather see more standardization on the use of the DateTime > > project, in much the same way that people think of DBI when they think > > of accessing databases through Perl. > > > > In this case, perhaps some clear documentation and examples (j

Re: Perl's Sacrifice Stone

2004-07-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Andrew Savige wrote: > I suppose all the above sites could do with more quality content. Bottom > line: a quality review is unpaid work taking considerable time and > effort; there will always be a shortage of them. Notice that Uri Guttman > offers a commerical code review ser

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > Ah, so you reinvented DateTime::Format::Duration. Actually, I think he reinvented Time::Seconds, which is part of the Time::Piece distro. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/

WWW::Map is now WebService::StreetMapLink

2004-07-11 Thread Dave Rolsky
Thanks to everyone who suggested names. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Smylers wrote: > How about WebService::Map? > > Search the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for WebService and you'll see that > there have been recent attempts to distinguish between modules that help > implement generic webby things (in WWW::) from those which are an > interface t

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 10 Jul 2004, Scott W Gifford wrote: > > Right now I'm leaning towards either keeping WWW::Map or going with > > WWW::MapService. I think the former is actually reasonably clear given > > the WWW namespace, which is all about interacting with web stuff, not > > generating HTML or anything

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, David Wheeler wrote: > On Jul 9, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > > This'd be great _except_ that www.maplink.com is the website for a > > map/travel book company. Too confusing. > >WWW::MapLinker? That implies that it's a modul

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Dana Hudes wrote: > > And really it's about _address_ maps. > > Nonetheless a type of geographic map. Mapquest et al will bring up maps of > a city or state, not just a street address. Sure, but some of the others won't. The module is really designed for addresses, and if you

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, David Wheeler wrote: > On Jul 9, 2004, at 1:23 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > > > So, I'd propose something like ::MapService instead. I think that > > conjures up the right image immediately. > > Or ::MapLink. This'd be great _except_ that www.maplink.com is the website for a map/

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Dana Hudes wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > > > WWW::Map - An API for generating links to online map services > > (you guessed right!). > > > > So, I'd propose something like ::MapService instead. I think that > > conjures up the right image immediately. >

ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
Da pod ... NAME WWW::Map - An API for generating links to online map services SYNOPSIS use WWW::Map; my $map = WWW::Map->new( country => 'usa', address => '100 Some Street', city=> 'Testville',

Module name for modules that generates links to maps?

2004-07-08 Thread Dave Rolsky
So I'm thinking of creating some modules that will generate links to maps. So far I have code to generate maps for the following countries: USA - mapquest Canada - mapquest Switzerland - www.multimap.com Australia - www.street-directory.com Singapore - www.streetdirectory.com.sg Each servic

Re: Looking for a new (or co-) maintainer for Net::SSH::Perl and Net::SFTP

2004-07-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Ken Williams wrote: > > Ok, I could probably spend a little back ground time doing this. Lets > > make a list of tests that need to be created, and prioritize them. > > Sounds like a lot of work. Maybe as a first step, just use > Devel::Cover to find out what parts of the cod

Re: Looking for a new (or co-) maintainer for Net::SSH::Perl and Net::SFTP

2004-07-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Lincoln A. Baxter wrote: > On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 13:42, Lincoln A. Baxter wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 12:51, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > > Here, perhaps, is the start of a list: > > > > scp tiny file to server and back and diff. > > scp la

Re: Looking for a new (or co-) maintainer for Net::SSH::Perl and Net::SFTP

2004-07-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > In that case, I'll go with Lincoln Baxter on the "binding to openSSH" thing. > What I was originally going to suggest (before I looked up the wrong modules) > is that you use Inline::C and essentially just replicate the 500-line main() > function from ssh.

Re: Looking for a new (or co-) maintainer for Net::SSH::Perl and Net::SFTP

2004-07-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > From what I can see, these modules are just making system calls to ssh or scp. You're not looking at the right modules, methinks. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/

Re: Looking for a new (or co-) maintainer for Net::SSH::Perl and Net::SFTP

2004-07-03 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Lincoln A. Baxter wrote: > I am a user of these modules. And I am glad they exist. But I do not > have a lot of time to do deep development on them, and I am not sure I > know the internals of SSH protocols well enough to maintain them, > especially since these are a reimpleme

Looking for a new (or co-) maintainer for Net::SSH::Perl and Net::SFTP

2004-07-02 Thread Dave Rolsky
I took these modules over from the previous owner in order to fix some annoying circular references that cause memory and file descriptor leaks. Unfortunately, the modules came with a minimal test suite, and I haven't had the tuits to write one. Since I'm not an expert on the protocols being imple

Re: New Module: HTML::DragDrop

2004-06-24 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Chris Josephes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-24 19:50]: > > Also, I'm 90% sure there's no other method (besides JavaScript) > > to implement D&D. If some guy down the road manages to do it > > in VBScript, he can always register > > Html::DragAndDrop::V

Re: bigint 5.6 vs 5.8

2004-06-21 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > Oh well. I'm the only person in the world doing computational geometry with > perl anyway right? Maybe, but the DateTime.pm code includes DateTime::Infinite, and this has all sorts of problems too. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consu

Re: CPAN Rating

2004-06-18 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-16 21:24]: > > Well, I guess to run a patched version of search.cpan.org on > > your local system you need to start by running an unpatched > > version of search.cpan.org. I'm not sure whether the source to >

Re: Finding installed modules under a given namespace

2004-05-07 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 7 May 2004, Jose Alves de Castro wrote: > I have a module (Lingua::Identify) which needs to be aware of all > installed modules under its namespace (Lingua::Identify::*) and do some > stuff for each of them... kind of like > > for (Lingua::Identify::*) { # some stuff here } > > I have no i

Re: Taking Over Maintenance of a CPAN Module

2004-04-20 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Andy Lester wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 05:11:22PM -0400, James E Keenan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I know that we've had a lot of discussion on this list about taking over > > maintenance of apparently abandoned modules ... but did we ever decide > > on a procedure f

Re: Somewhat OT: Re: [RFC] PHP::DateTime

2004-03-09 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Austin Schutz wrote: > This is of course off topic, but why are you glad to be migrating? > I've found web development to be fairly cumbersome with perl (and CGI.pm), > and have heard good things about the convenience of php from webheads. You can't compare CGI.pm plus a

Re: Reshaping the modules list: a starting point, help remove the bias.

2004-02-25 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Sam Vilain wrote: > Pure data and structures: > >- Pure algorithm implementations (c.f. C++ STL) >- Class generator frameworks >- Parameter parsing modules >- Data Schema modules - tree-based (eg XMLSchema) >- Data Schema modules - general (eg YAML::Schema)

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