I have two questions for the list if I may:-
1. When is the next release of MoinMoin :)
2007 :)
(The good news is that the converter made significant progress the last
weeks, but still is not finished.)
2. I am really confused about the whitespace issue I am having, and
whether it is a
Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 18:14 +0300 schrieb Markku Tavasti:
For some reason, on one host I have Moinmoin runnign users cannot
change theis password. UserPreferences just don't have those
'password' fields at all. There are several wikis on same host, and
directories holding user account
I'm experimenting with 1.6 dev based on the latest code in
the repository.
I cannot create an account on a wiki created off that, because
the UserPreferences page doesn't render the account creation
form.
Edit it and change [[UserPreferences]] to UserPreferences.
The bug is already fixed
Hi Martin,
I'm running the latest 1.6 revision (see http://swindale.ecc.ubc.ca). I
just updated from a previous revision several weeks old, and I've
noticed that links to non-image attachments (say, pdfs) now take you to
the attachment page where the browser tries to display them (say using
Hi folks. As I'm sure most of you know by now, this problem is increasing
dramatically in the last few weeks. Big sites like redhat
(http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/RecentChanges), x.org and so on are
seeing
these wiki spams by auto-created users (XXXjingke, caicaimmXX, and many
I wonder if making the captcha part of the registration process,
instead of the editing process, would be sufficient.
The user registration should ALSO have it, additionally to page save
(many wikis allow anonymous contributions).
I guess so. Did you use wiki as your interwiki name (see wiki
configuration)?
yes, to match the apache Location /wiki container I guess that
is a no-no? is there doc or explanation for this?
oooh, that interwiki... :) I guess mine should be null, or set in
my interwiki table.
wiki:
I would like to make the BadContent page unreadable by not logged-in
users.
As the page is fetched from MoinMaster, that would've to be done there.
You maybe could experiment whether the update still works when you set
local ACLs (they will vanish after the update, of course).
How would I
This is the first time I've seen that url. How long ago did it replace
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/?
You need to read the front page more often. :) It is since May 2007.
Since then, both URLs pointed to the same content.
Since the recent 1.6 migration, moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de is read-only
First 1.6 beta is out.
If you want to help testing it, it is on SF, linked from the
MoinMoinDownload page.
If this is your first try on 1.6: please read docs/CHANGES carefully.
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I'm using the sinorca4moin theme,
For bug reports, it would be good if you reproduce the stuff on some
builtin theme. It also helps to determine if it is a general problem or
a problem in sinorca4moin (for which you should contact its author).
I go to history, and click view for an older
I fixed it, no need for a bug report.
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Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop.
Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser.
Another way to avoid some chinese spam (if your wiki does not have
legitimate chinese-writing users) is to put some common chinese
characters (words) onto LocalBadContent.
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when a user isn't logged in, the page trail on top of the page isn't
shown. I can't seem to find where i can change that?
For 1.5 and older: no way. If you are not logged in, there is no cookie
and moin can not track what you do.
For 1.6, there will be anonymous session (optionally), so
Moin
I couldn't for example load in acl rules if the group was called Apex1Group.
See page_group_regex, you need to change that in your wiki config.
The default might be [a-z]Group which is not good enough for you
application.
Now I found that 'Apex1/HelpOnSlots' generates only the link to
(1) how to put a list in a cell (table)
There is no direct way, but you can use Include to include a complete
other page.
(2) how to use the wiki-enities (I've got them from
text_html_text_moin_wiki.py)
!ENTITY nbsp #32; !-- no-break space = non-breaking space,
U+00A0, convert
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Somehow I managed to change my username from KaiJaeger to
KaiJaegerTest although my intention was to create a new user
KaiJaegerTest and nothing else.
Now I very much would like to go back to my original name, but when I
try this MoinMoin tells me that there is
On 1.6.0 beta 2, I just noticed that when I turn on the page trail, it shows
only the last page. Per http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Storage,
the page trail is not stored into user_dir, but into the user's session data
on Moin 1.6.
Is this for an anon user or for a logged in user? Do you see
I am (unprivileged) user of a moinmoin wiki site which is currently
somewhat devalued by Chinese link spam bots. Looking into ways of what
to do about it, some questions came up:
- What does the More Actions/ Remove Spam menue item do?
It is for someone being in the superuser list, he
I can't be able to start moin.py like I used to with 1.5.8 (just run it w/ no
additional arguments).
I'm getting the below error message.
This is the moin utility, not the standalone server.
The standalone server script is moin.py in the toplevel directory of the
distribution archive.
Moin,
there's new stuff to play with!
See http://moinmo.in/ ! :)
Cheers,
Thomas
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=1) in my opionion the moin-command for data migration is not the
= same as moin.cgi, which is - as far as I know - only responsible
= for deliviering your HTML-page according to your browser request.
Right. The moin command needed for migration (and other commandline
stuff) should get
As you see here:
http://frambors.syslang.net/nicciwiki/RecentChanges?action=raw
you did not install the new underlay pages (this is a rather generic
point of any moin upgrade, you get current underlay pages in the dist
archive under wiki/underlay/).
After you do, you will see the page uses ..
I've been tearing my hair out with this problem since moving the Wiki
instance from a backup.
If I edit a page, add a new Wiki link and then attempt to access this
new page, I get the error below.
I've tried clearing cache directories, checking permissions etc.
Maybe you have missed to
Thanks. That looks useful. However, your comment Moin no longer
allows spaces in page names or attachments cannot be right - page
names with spaces are seriously important to us. I just proved this on
moinmo.in - see http://moinmo.in/PaulMoore/A%20Test
That was a misunderstanding, I fixed it
I add some details of your post there:
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.6_MacOSX_CreateNewPage_WrongName
Let's continue there.
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The HelpOnEditing and SyntaxReference links at the bottom of the editor
often point to other wikis in the farm.
You can have a separate underlay dir for each of your wikis, I think
that would fix it.
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Check out the new
acl can be given to a page only by the superuser.superuser is
configured in wikiconfig.py file.
Moin's superuser is unrelated to the ACL admin right.
superuser: being able to do special critical stuff like installing
plugin code, doing backups, being able to modify other user's accounts,
This is the same issue we face since updating to 1.6. We have a
number of pages where we have .doc and .xls attachments. The desired
behavior would be to click the link and have it start downloading, as
the previous versions behaved and how most users come to expect
attachment links to
Just wanted to tell, that there is a fix to interwiki issues:
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/rev/3e3a549b49f0
If nothing unforseen happens, this will also be in 1.6.2.
From docs/CHANGES:
Fix interwiki linking:
Free interwiki links did not change since 1.5 (they still require to
match
I)
The first paragraph of Help = Admin = User doc on my rev states:
paste from help doc _
User data is stored in directory data/user in files that have the user
id as filename. The files with the appendix .trail contain a history of
what pages
On the bottom of the RecentChanges page of my Moin 1.6.1 [Revision
release] installation, the legend footer calls for moin-diff.gif,
moin-new.gif, etc icons. All of these are missing from
htdocs/modern.img/.
We don't use gifs any more since quite a while.
Are you using a theme that was not
Then I added the line of superuser = u'YourName into the wikiconfig.py file
of the instance.
It has to be a list:
superuser = [u'YourName', ]
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What are the best practices / recommendations for file system
permissions on the site/data directory?
Moin uses a umask of 0770 by default, so starting with a data dir with
uid/gid == that of the moin process and rwX for user and group (and no
access for world) is a good idea.
I understand
I'm with Gnarlie on this one-- who care's that Microsoft is sponsoring
this server?
As far as I'm concerned, *someone* has to pay for it, so why not con
your competitor? It's not like they're making any converts.
Personally, I think it's great (in an ironic sort of way) that Microsoft
Hi,
if you are still running some 1.5.x (or even older) wiki, it is strongly
advised to:
* either upgrade to some recent 1.6.x release (maybe 1.6.2 will be a
good opportunity if you didn't go for 1.6.x yet),
* or upgrade to 1.5.9, the final 1.5.x release fixing some important
security issues
I have a problem with templates. The problem is that the ACL I want
on the page as a template is not the same as the ACL I want on page
that's generated from the template.
That's a problem with the current system. If you want to change ACLs,
you need admin rights.
In particular, I
if you are still running some 1.5.x (or even older) wiki, it is strongly
advised to:
* either upgrade to some recent 1.6.x release (maybe 1.6.2 will be a
good opportunity if you didn't go for 1.6.x yet),
* or upgrade to 1.5.9, the final 1.5.x release fixing some important
security issues
I've downloaded both moin-1.5.9.tar.gz and moin-1.6.1.tar.gz but
neither matches its checksum listed there, and neither is a
valid .tar.gz file, ...
The checksum was checked by me after transferring the files to the
download server, they are correct.
I was burned by this, too, but was
Dr. Uwe Werner schrieb:
This shows us that attachements are dealt with rather poorly by Moin.
Yes, AttachFile is rather old crappy code, a quick hack from 2001. No
news. :)
We are trying to unify attachments with page storage, there has been
some work by Heinrich Wendel in SOC 2007, but it
Only one consideration. The MUG has members who renew yearly, paying
$35 for access to the meetings and website private area. This work is
all handled by the secretary, but we want to automate it. We want the
user to be reminded by email when their membership expires. They would
then click on
I'm setting up a moinmoin wiki for the first time for a small group
that uses the internet to coordinate. I want to set it up so that by
default, none of the wiki-specific actions or toolbars (except for
'login') is visible to people without accounts.
There is a theme modern_cms that does
As long as we are talking about URL rewriting, I have blocked access
to the actions menu due to search robots sucking huge amounts of
bandwidth:
BTW, moin 1.6 has url_prefix_actions so one can exclude actions by
robots.txt (at least for the sane bots).
When I try rendering a page that has footnotes to Docbook, the resulting
page is an error. for example try Rendering this page to Docbook:
http://www.moinmo.in/MatthiasPretzer/FootNote
Is this a bug in the 1.6 version?
Mikko is currently working on fixing the docbook formatter in the 1.7
I have the server all set up and running, can edit pages, etc. But I
see in the log accesses to files in /moin_static_161/, and I don't find
that directory in /usr/share/moin,
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin, or anywhere in my instance
directory. It's working.. I just don't
I want to make a irc server integrating with moinmoin just like the
moinmo.in,too.
From the moinmoin can check the memo of IRC chat.what type of the irc
is used in moinmo.in
and how to seting up the irc server to intergrate with moinmoin ?
For the moin IRC channels, we just use the
adaptivefarm/
bin/
moin.cgi
ScriptAlias /adaptivebooks
/usr/local/share/moin/adaptivefarm/cgi-bin/moin.cgi
bin or cgi-bin?
BTW, using host based farming (*.example.org/PageName) is easier than
path based (example.org/*/PageName).
Is there a cfg option, or other method, to disable some of the Globla
macros? I google'd a bit and couldn't find anything.
No, you can't.
You could override them via a plugin macro of the same name though.
Why would one want that?
Does anyone know of a macro that will allow for loading/displaying of
image files on the moinmoin server (not attachments). I would like to
embed some dynamic RRD graphs into a wiki page.
Just use their url!?
For 1.6:
http://server/image.png
For = 1.6:
{{http://server/image.png}}
Is docs/CHANGES somewhere online - so that one can read it before
downloading and extracting the zip file ?
( Maybe it could be (automatically) copied onto moinmo.in !? )
All files are browseable in the repository, see:
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/file/tip/docs/CHANGES
This file is always
I) after changing user, what should be my *current directory* when
executing moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir
--wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data ?
That doesn't matter - assuming that the moin command and the MoinMoin
code can be found via PATH / PYTHONPATH.
If that is not
Hi Neal,
Looks like the bug where my attachments don't directly cause download
(unless written as
[[attachment:bla.csv|blah.cs|do=get]]
)
is not fixed in 1.6.2
That's intended, not a bug.
Pages and attachments will be unified to items with a mimetype.
E.g. a wiki page could be a item of
Hi Rick,
However, I too am getting hate-mail over the confusion with attachments
from my users. Is there a way, based on mimetypes or other mechanism,
to specify which files get downloaded and which get displayed?
Well, it would be a big problem (esp. in the future) to generate
different
I have a wiki that was working for a while over over apache2 and
mod_fastcgi.
At the moment, it looks like I just have a text interface to my wiki,
and not the usual icons and widgets. I can access the content.
Any pointers to getting the graphical interface back?
It is likely that
Hi,
After struggling for two days I have finally managed to get a new wiki
up and running with the moinmoin 1.6.2.
Well, you could've join us on the IRC channel before getting too
frustrated.
My biggest wished (on a
wishlist) would be that the instance creation and wiki config setup
I'm trying to setup MoinMoin 1.6.2 on Apache 2.2.8 with mod_auth_sspi
1.0.4. I've made the changes to httpd.conf and wikiconfig.py as
described in ApacheOnWin32withDomainauthentication. When opening the
browser and trying to access the wiki page I'm now getting the
following messages:
Hi Bernd,
watch this bug:
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/UserSettingsHandlerFailsOnUserFormDisabledFields
Cheers,
Thomas
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Is there way to add or modify a page which is accessible if you
know the name, but not searchable.
No.
There are several outdated page in our internal wiki. We are in a process
of refreshing, restructuring them. We don't want our teams to use outdated
information - make outdated
I wanted to include the contents of a dictionary entry in a page, but the
entry had some markup in the value, which ended up getting displayed
literally in the page with the GetVal call. Is there any way to retrieve a
value from a dictionary and have it be processed for markup, the way
Are there any security issues to be considered in order to decide
which operating system is more reliable to host a Moin instance or
farm?
Well, I think you should prefer a well-maintained linux system (e.g.
debian or ubuntu) over a windows box.
Most of moin's code is the same for linux
due to a misconfiguration of our web server, our moinmoin
was heavily filled with spam pages.
I have installed MoinMoin 1.3.4, on a Linux Debian Sarge machine
Pity.
Newer moin versions have the despam action (superuser only) and it will
delete pages if they were created by the spammer and
due to a misconfiguration of our web server, our moinmoin
was heavily filled with spam pages.
BTW, moin 1.6 has much better spam protection with TextChas (like
CAPTCHA, but just text questions and answers).
Although our wikis are anonymously read-write, we did not have any
(automated) spam
We are using the MoinMoin for internal department wiki. Unfortunately
this was never upgraded from 1.2.1 version from 2004. Now the honor is
on me to upgrade this to 1.5.9.
:)
As there won't be updates to 1.5.x any more, you could also consider
upgrading to 1.6.3 instead of upgrading to an
Just to test i ran till migration script 9.
Following are the errors for each migration.
Any kind of help is appreciated.
Migraiton Script 5
Error: can't copy 'data.pre-mig5\plugin' to 'data\plugin'
There should be a data/plugin directory in your src data.
If there is, find out why it can't
Some of my users have created usernames with white space in them
(specifically, First Last, instead of FirstLast).
How should I add those users to an acl group? Just:
* First Last
Yes, should work.
Or do I need to be throwing some quotes/brackets/whatever at that?
You also may do that,
Is there any plan upgrading the FCKeditor version included in MoinMoin
soon?
See there:
http://code.google.com/soc/2008/moin/about.html
(the last listed project)
We hope Moon will be successful with his project and we have a nice
updated FCKeditor this autumn.
The problem with FCKeditor
I've just upgraded to MoinMoin 1.6.1.
Then please upgrade to 1.6.3 now for security reasons (see
MoinMoin:SecurityFixes).
This was from a backup copy
of my data and config; due to a hardware failure I'm not sure what
moin version I started with but the install was 6 to 18 months old
and
Hi Jim,
that problem is known and vanishes as soon as you put something non-list
in between the different lists.
Cheers,
Thomas
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Is there an ETA for version 1.7.0?
Yes, see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.7.0
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I hate to whine, but I just lost the last 3 hours in a futile attempt to
upgrade
my MoinMoin wiki from 1.5.6 to 1.6.3 on a Windows box with Python 2.5
Why didn't you just ask on IRC? That's faster than ML.
1. The upgrade process is not documented, as far as I can tell. There is a
migration
Hi Moiners :)
See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the latest beta version of our
next upcoming release.
1.7.0 is expected later this month, so you see, there are only 2 weeks
left. rc1 will be likely next weekend and a release soon afterwards
(except if someone finds big bugs :).
It would
Thanks for the info -- how do get to the Moinmoin IRC from there !?
(a 3 line IRC tutorial maybe ;-) )
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat
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self.editlog.copy(opj(self.ddata, 'edit-log'), self.renames)
File c:\Program
Files\Moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\migration\_conv1
60.py, line 194, in copy
self.read()
File c:\Program
Files\Moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\migration\_conv1
60.py, line 141, in
The data/edit-log file appeared to be corrupted. I compared it the edit-log of
the wiki I had successfully migrated and realized the format and contents made
no sense. So I deleted the contents of the file and was able to migrate.
That means you lost the global edit-log. RecentChanges uses
However I cannot create new pages I see Action(edit,Create new empty
page)
http://vault/engineering/Action%28edit%2CCreate%20new%20empty%20page%29
and when I look at my profile I see a lot of GetText(blah).
You need to:
a) make a backup of your existing underlay dir (see wikiconfig
Barry Scott schrieb:
Thomas Waldmann wrote:
However I cannot create new pages I see Action(edit,Create new empty
page)
http://vault/engineering/Action%28edit%2CCreate%20new%20empty%20page%29
and when I look at my profile I see a lot of GetText(blah).
You need to:
a) make a backup
See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload and please help testing.
Release is scheduled next sunday, except you hold us back by finding
bugs. :)
If you know a non-english language, you can also help translating and/or
fixing stuff on master17, see: http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation
I'm trying to attach a file and include a link which will download
that file directly. The syntax [[attachment:file_name.cmd]] doesn't
work - it takes the user to the attachmnent management page, which
isn't very friendly for a naive user.
Do I have to use the full, clumsy URL:
I am planning an upgrade to 1.7.0 and would like to know what the
recommended upgrade path from 1.5.8 is. Should I upgrade
1.5.8-1.6.3-1.7.0 or simply jump from 1.5.8-1.7.0?
As 1.7.0 is not released yet, I would recommend you upgrade to 1.6.3.
Later, you can easily go to 1.7.0 or 1.7.1 or
See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload and please help testing.
I just installed it on a new server - I found out that the preview does not
work when editing a *new* page ?
Yes, that's known and already fixed.
On an unrelated note, it would really be great if announcement of new
You're right, I am running a farm (using farmconfig.py, not
wikiconfig.py). However, I've combed thru my farmconfig.py file very
thoroughly,
If it is what I suspected, that it is one of your import statements.
and am not seeing any problems. Does auth =
[HTTPAuth()] need something
i several circumstances I read the advice to stop and restart moin ...
err... how can I do that on the following systems:
* Windows Server 2003, IIS 6.0
* Windows XP Pro, Apache 2.4
If you run cgi, the web server restarts moin on every request anyway, so
you don't need to do anything
Is there some ready solution for getting 'recent changes' on single
page from whole wiki farm?
Maybe search the market pages on the moinmo.in wiki, but AFAIK there is
no such thing.
I have plenty of wikies on one
computer. Some people have rights for all wikies and for them it would
be
Maybe using some RSS reader or RSS aggregator for all RSS feeds of the
wikis would help you?
Does RSS work when all wikies are with tight acl, so that without
login you can't even read anything?
AFAIK no.
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Neal Becker schrieb:
{{{#!inline_latex
hello
}}}
Gives me this:
cannot import name wiki
This is an old parser that was not updated for moin 1.6 (you have to fix
some imports):
Old: from MoinMoin.parser import wiki
New: from MoinMoin.parser import text_moin_wiki as wiki
BTW:
You really
See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload and please help testing.
Changelog is here:
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/file/1.7.0rc2/docs/CHANGES
If you know a non-english language, you can also help translating and/or
fixing stuff on master17, see: http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation
As you can see, it seems to be having trouble importing HTTPAuth, but
there are no (AFAICS) no typos.
ImportError
cannot import name HTTPAuth
Looks like something in site-packages/MoinMoin/... got mixed up. Rick
purged that directory and reinstalled using setup.py and it works now.
Hi Greg,
I'm a newbie MoinMoin admin. I've been tasked with setting up four
MoinMoin wikis that use ActiveDirectory group names for user
authentication.
There is no ldap group support yet. But we have a Google Summer of Code
2008 project to implement that.
What you can do right now is:
I'm trying to use MoinMoin 1.6.3 in standalone mode with a different theme
on Debian Sid.
If you want to have a standalone wiki, the easiest way is:
get the 1.6.3 release archive, uncompress it to your home directory.
cd moin-1.6.3
./moin.py
and it will work.
Of course you can do the same
The bottom of the BadContent page of our 1.5.3 MoinMoin wiki says:
BadContent (last edited 2008-03-05 16:54:04 by Antispam subsystem)
So the Antispam subsystem has not updated this file recently.
Looks like.
Is maybe some firewall blocking the outgoing connection recently?
Our
See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload and please help testing.
Changelog is here:
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/file/1.7.0rc3/docs/CHANGES
If you know a non-english language, you can also help translating and/or
fixing stuff on master17, see: http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation
Given the quick and helpful reply I received to my earlier question
(vielen dank Herr Waldmann!),
You're welcome! :)
I am posting to the list again. I'm a newbie Moin admin running Moin
1.6.3 on a RHEL5.1 box, and I just upgraded from 1.5.7 to 1.6.3.
Did you also upgrade / change your
Previously attachments which were not already present
were shown as a 'download ...'
You mean upload. :)
link on the page,
It should be a grey link now for nonexisting file attachments.
It should be a grey image now for nonexisting attachment image
transclusions.
Like it shows a grey link
it says this is the 1.6 master and provides a broken link to:
http://moinmaster17.wikiwikiweb.de/FrontPage
Oops. Will fix that.
The master wikis for moin 1.6 and 1.7 are there:
* http://master16.moinmo.in/
* http://master17.moinmo.in/
It is also linked from:
See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive and the
change log.
Some system text translations and help pages still need improvement - if
you know a non-english language, you can also help translating and/or
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Hi Robert,
I working on wikifying the Linux Document Projects doc's.
Cool. :) linuxwiki.de also runs moin.
Nice. Unfortunately I understand very little German, I saw that the
logo was linuxwiki.org and hoped that there was an english site too,
but linuxwiki.org just redirects to
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We are going to use moinmoin (V1.53)
/me blows the dust off it. :)
... and suggests using 1.7.0 (or at least 1.6.3, if you think 1.7.0 is
too new).
1.5 is not maintained any more.
And as 1.7 has some fixes that were too big for 1.6, currently 1.7 is
really the
I'm trying to understand the BadContent page format, but it doesn't
appear to have a consistent one.
?
What type of regex is it supposed to use?
Just standard python/perl regex. The regex is matched against all page
content that someone tries to save (not only against URLs).
Who manages
It appears at first glance to be regex based, but there are high amounts
of wrong entries.
Define wrong.
Why isn't it sorted in a consistent order?
Because nobody did sort it recently, but everybody just appended at the end.
I'll re-organise it then.
Be extremely careful with that,
However, I now have some user complaints that they are having error
messages when they log in, such as:
AttributeError: User instance has no attribute 'aliasname'
This is a bug. Either in the LDAP auth configuration or in the LDAP auth
code. Please file a bug report on the wiki and
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