Re: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Development Activity

[Iain Mac Donald]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:59:34 +0100
Rudolf Reuter  wrote:

> I am very happy with Moin 1.9.
> It is stable, has all the features I need, and the pages are easy to
> backup with rsync. I think stability and reliability are more
> important for a wiki than fancy features.

+1

One feature I use a lot is searching using 3, 4 or 5 characters from a
page name. If there are multiple pages using these characters you get a
search result listing several pages. If there is only one page you get
that one page returned. I find this is very handy and I was sad to hear
it disappear in Moin 2+.

As others have mentioned things they would like to see...

I don't know if this counts as a fancy feature but one thing that
confuses non-technical users is the full text search results. The
results show snippets of text surrounding the search term but this is
displayed as markup not natural language. For people not familiar with
markup that can look odd. 

I don't mind trying applications in virtualenvs as they have become
second nature to me. However, I draw the line at having to download
multi-gigabyte Docker containers. ;-)

Regards,
Iain.

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Re: [Moin-user] install MoinMoin as non-root user

[Iain Mac Donald]

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:06:57 -0400
Hong Zhu hong...@gmail.com wrote:

 but I
 do not have root privilege to install other package.

Just a thought...

You could try installing everything including an http server into a
virtualenv. I have not done this myself yet, but, I did come across
this page
http://test.moinmo.in/+serve/docs/admin/install.html
which led me to think about it.

You wouldn't be able to run it from port 80 though!

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Re: [Moin-user] using Xapian search

[Iain Mac Donald]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:58:25 +0200
Marcel Häfner marcel.haef...@heavy.ch wrote:

 http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/SearchformWithoutAttachmentSearch

Thanks for that idea, I hadn't thought of that. We are using 1.9.3 but
I am sure a similar approach would still work.

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Re: [Moin-user] using Xapian search

[Iain Mac Donald]

Hello Thomas,

many thanks for the reply.

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:53:27 +0200
Thomas Waldmann tw-pub...@gmx.de wrote:

 Also, it splits the words and puts Moin and Tips and Tricks into the
 index. It does not put MoinT into the index.

So, an uppercase letter is an indicator that the indexer should treat
this as a word (until the next uppercase letter) as if there was white
space. It would seem that hyphens and underscores have a similar
effect. The implications of this would need to be considered when
naming pages. Pages named with acronyms, e.g. IBM*, are a particular
problem.

 
 Well, better get used to that (or refine your search with mime:wiki to
 only find wiki pages). The different handling of pages and attachments
 is going away in future anyway.

Is it possible to have mime:wiki used as the default for title searches?

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Re: [Moin-user] using Xapian search

[Iain Mac Donald]

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:13:33 +0200
Thomas Waldmann tw-pub...@gmx.de wrote:

 If you have a page called IBM Services, that would work ok.
 Same for IBM-Services, IBMServices is maybe a bad idea.

Initially, we made extensive use of Categories. Over time the use of
Categories lapsed and an informal grouping of pages would happen based
on page naming e.g. IBMServices, IBMHardware etc. IBM Services, and
the like, were avoided. Hyphens might just become the in-thing!

Sub-directories, e.g. IBM/Services, exist but are pretty rare.

 In moin2 that problem becomes even more visible: you can have
 arbitrary items there (there is no distinction between pages and
 attachments) and each item has a content-type, e.g.:

Are you saying that in Moin2 you can directly add a PDF (or JPEG, PNG
etc.) to the wiki rather than as an attachment to a page? I can't get
past the idea of pages being first class citizens and attachments being
second class (at the same level as sections within a page).

I'll need to checkout Moin2 and give it a spin.

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Re: [Moin-user] using Xapian search

[Iain Mac Donald]

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:12:17 +0100
Iain Mac Donald moinm...@picturenow.co.uk wrote:

 Are you saying that in Moin2 you can directly add a PDF (or JPEG, PNG
 etc.) to the wiki rather than as an attachment to a page? I can't get
 past the idea of pages being first class citizens and attachments
 being second class (at the same level as sections within a page).
 
 I'll need to checkout Moin2 and give it a spin.

I have just found http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 which answers my
question and lots of others I hadn't thought of yet :-)

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[Moin-user] using Xapian search

[Iain Mac Donald]

Hello,

long time MoinMoin user here who has just got around to installing
Xapian for search. There are a couple of things which I find are
different when using Xapian compared to the legacy search engine.

The first difference involves my, perhaps unusual, navigation method.
It is perhaps easiest to explain by example. I have a page in the wiki
called MoinTipsTricks and rather than typing the full path I do a title
search on moint. The legacy search would return the only page
starting with moint which is MoinTipsTricks. Xapian returns 'Your
search query moint didn't return any results.' Title searching on
moin with Xapian does return a list of pages.

Xapian title search returns one result per page plus one result for
each attachment on that page. Finding a specific page can then become
more difficult. I would still like the ability to search attachments
but not have it as the default option.

Any ideas on how I can get Xapian to behave like legacy search in
these two situations?

Regards,
Iain. 

MoinMoin 1.9.3 (from Debian Squeeze), Python 2.6.6, Xapian 1.2.3,
Apache 2.2.16 with mod_wsgi
xapian_search = True
xapian_index_history = False
xapian_stemming = False

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