Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-18 Thread Alan
*To:* Andres G. Aragoneses kno...@gmail.com mailto:kno...@gmail.com *Cc:* Mono-list@lists.ximian.com mailto:Mono-list@lists.ximian.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:54 PM *Subject:* Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3 I have managed to gain the following information from

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-13 Thread Daniel Hughes
:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:54 PM *Subject:* Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3 I have managed to gain the following information from this bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648121 The banshee port to GTK# 3 is complete they are just waiting for a release of GTK # 3 (as of 3

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Stifu
I believe the answers you're looking for are in the link I gave. Daniel Hughes wrote XWT although interesting is irrelevant to the question at hand. XWT will use GTK on linux and so will still require working GTK 3 bindings. So can we get back to the topic, I would love answers to my

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Stifu
Err, you can't do that. Daniel Lo Nigro wrote How would you use native widgets without using bindings of some sort? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:19 AM, 殷启聪 lt;seamlikok@gt; wrote: Why there's no any cross-platform GUI toolkit that's written natively in C#? I'm tired of using bindings. Is

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Mathias Tausig
On Tuesday 11. September 2012 11:53:03 Andrew York wrote: How far along is XWT? I'm don't mind trying out something in beta for fun, but I'm not smart enough to make major contributions. Is XWT far enough along for the average end developer to start having fun with? I recently tried it for a

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Ventsislav Mladenov
Hi. We should take a look of Qyoto project, Qt bindings are generated automatically not like GTK's which had been created manually. The mono team does not want to create a GTK 3 bindings because everything has to be done from scratch again and this is a lot of work. On 09/11/2012 01:12

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Daniel Hughes
The link does not actually answer any of my questions. Who is working on it? Not answered, expect to say that some of the banshee guys have contributed, doesn't tell me who is leading or drive the effort, my guess is no one is. Where is the code? Not answered at all Where will it be released?

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Andres G. Aragoneses
On 12/09/12 08:46, Mathias Tausig wrote: On Tuesday 11. September 2012 11:53:03 Andrew York wrote: How far along is XWT? I'm don't mind trying out something in beta for fun, but I'm not smart enough to make major contributions. Is XWT far enough along for the average end developer to start

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Daniel Hughes
I have managed to gain the following information from this bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648121 The banshee port to GTK# 3 is complete they are just waiting for a release of GTK # 3 (as of 3 months ago, from Comment 8) Mike is the maintainer of GTK# but he doesn't have

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-12 Thread Daniel Morgan
Subject: Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3 I have managed to gain the following information from this bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648121  The banshee port to GTK# 3 is complete they are just waiting for a release of GTK # 3 (as of 3 months ago, from Comment 8) Mike

[Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel Hughes
GTK 3 was released 10 Feb 2011. That's a long time ago. During that time .net bindings have failed to eventuate. Information on what has been happening has been very hard to find, despite a large number of .net applications on linux using these bindings. As the author of an opensource

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Stifu
The most recent bit of news I've read about GTK# 3: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Towards-GTK-3-0-tp4650597.html Daniel Hughes wrote GTK 3 was released 10 Feb 2011. That's a long time ago. During that time .net bindings have failed to eventuate. Information on what has been happening

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread 殷启聪
Why there's no any cross-platform GUI toolkit that's written natively in C#? I'm tired of using bindings. Is it possible to develop a C# GUI toolkit that's OpenGL accelerated (like WPF and Clutter), cross-platform (like wxWidgets and Qt) and uses native widgets in different desktop environment?

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Slide
There is this one that is being developed https://github.com/mono/xwt and will be the foundation of MonoDevelop in the future from what I understand. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:19 AM, 殷启聪 seamli...@gmail.com wrote: Why there's no any cross-platform GUI toolkit that's written natively in C#? I'm

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Stifu
XWT is still a set of bindings. It calls native code / GUI toolkits underneath. So that's not what he was asking for. I guess there is just not enough money / motivation behind having a fully-managed GUI toolkit. On the other hand, Mono WinForms is one, technically. Slide wrote There is this

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Ian Norton
How do you expect to put anything on the screen or read the mouse, keyboard etc without eventually using a native toolkit :) XWT is very cool, not 100% working for me yet but a very good start. On 11/09/2012 16:34, Stifu wrote: XWT is still a set of bindings. It calls native code / GUI

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Andrew York
How far along is XWT? I'm don't mind trying out something in beta for fun, but I'm not smart enough to make major contributions. Is XWT far enough along for the average end developer to start having fun with? On 9/11/2012 11:50 AM, Ian Norton wrote: How do you expect to put anything on the

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Stifu
Yes, eventually it has to use native code. But I guess the difference is whether the GUI toolkit is made using solely the .NET / Mono framework, or by shipping extra native code. Mono WinForms, as I mentioned, mostly relies on the framework (using System.Drawing rather than calling an extra

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel Hughes
XWT although interesting is irrelevant to the question at hand. XWT will use GTK on linux and so will still require working GTK 3 bindings. So can we get back to the topic, I would love answers to my questions regarding GTK Sharp 3 Who is working on it? Where is the code? When should we expect

Re: [Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel Lo Nigro
How would you use native widgets without using bindings of some sort? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:19 AM, 殷启聪 seamli...@gmail.com wrote: Why there's no any cross-platform GUI toolkit that's written natively in C#? I'm tired of using bindings. Is it possible to develop a C# GUI toolkit that's