Re: [Monotone-devel] Execute by default?

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Freitag, 16. Februar 2007, Nathaniel Smith wrote: Of these, the second looks the easiest and least annoying... though I can certainly imagine it being annoying (and the drop --really switch is annoyingly similar to the rm -f switch that everyone types automatically without thinking).

Re: [Monotone-devel] Execute by default?

2007-02-16 Thread Christian Ohler
Nathaniel Smith, 2007-02-16: It seems like always executing is the Right Thing for add/drop/rename/pivot_root/whatever-else-I'm-forgetting. I agree. Another way to handle file removal is what darcs does: On commit, assume that any files that are missing have been deleted. (Similar to an

Re: [Monotone-devel] Execute by default?

2007-02-16 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hi, Nathaniel Smith wrote: It seems like always executing is the Right Thing for add/drop/rename/pivot_root/whatever-else-I'm-forgetting. Please also note, that not only 'drop' has a special case, but also 'add' in case the file doesn't exist. Monotone already refuses to add a non existing

[Monotone-devel] Re: Execute by default?

2007-02-16 Thread Lapo Luchini
Thomas Moschny wrote: That's why I personally would prefer the third option. An unmodified file can safely be dropped. A modified file can safely be forgotten. These are the operations that can be undone easily. No need to clobber the UI with --extra-switches. I agree that --execute is a

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Execute by default?

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Freitag, 16. Februar 2007, Lapo Luchini wrote: Thomas Moschny wrote: That's why I personally would prefer the third option. An unmodified file can safely be dropped. A modified file can safely be forgotten. These are the operations that can be undone easily. No need to clobber the UI

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Freitag, 16. Februar 2007, Lapo Luchini wrote: on Fedora, with libiconv bundled inside libc: % echo \xE3\x83\x9D | iconv -f UTF-8 -t ASCII//IGNORE//TRANSLIT iconv: illegal input sequence at position 4 % echo \xE3\x83\x9D | iconv -f UTF-8 -t ASCII//IGNORE iconv: illegal input sequence at

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Ulrich Drepper
Lapo Luchini wrote: % echo \xC3\x80 | iconv -f UTF-8 -t ASCII//IGNORE//TRANSLIT iconv: illegal input sequence at position 3 Who was so stupid as to say that the above is the right syntax? There are at most to slashes in the text. After the second slash come the options, as a *COMMA* separated

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Freitag, 16. Februar 2007, Ulrich Drepper wrote: There are at most to slashes in the text. After the second slash come the options, as a *COMMA* separated list. This doesn't seem to be widely documented. - Thomas pgpB2478Ygw1v.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Ulrich Drepper
Thomas Moschny wrote: This doesn't seem to be widely documented. And that's an excuse to make something up? Read the sources. -- ➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Keller
Ulrich Drepper schrieb: Thomas Moschny wrote: This doesn't seem to be widely documented. And that's an excuse to make something up? Read the sources. Keep friendly. Has anybody actually _asked_ for your opinion here? No, I don't think so. So there is absolutely no point to get rude here.

[Monotone-devel] Re: iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Lapo Luchini
Ulrich Drepper wrote: iconv -f UTF-8 -t ASCII//IGNORE,TRANSLIT And don't even think about contradicting me, I invented all this. You may we have invented that, but it doesn't work at all in the iconv 1.9.2 that's installed on my FreeBSD box :P % echo \xE3\x83\x9D | iconv -f UTF-8 -t

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Patrick Georgi
Thomas Moschny schrieb: This doesn't seem to be widely documented. and neither widely implemented. so gnu iconv becomes a dependency now? patrick georgi ___ Monotone-devel mailing list Monotone-devel@nongnu.org

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Moschny
And that's an excuse to make something up? Read the sources. Huh? I need to read sources of all libraries I want to use? Open source is no excuse for bad documentation. And btw, we tend to have a way more polite tone in this mailing list. - Thomas pgpGJuk825GsF.pgp Description: PGP

[Monotone-devel] netsync restartability [was, Re: summit photos]

2007-02-16 Thread Timothy Brownawell
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 06:04 +1100, Daniel Carosone wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:50:49AM +1100, Daniel Carosone wrote: I also have one at 204.152.190.23:4692 (you'll need to use your keys) /me notes that multi-hundred-MB revisions make netsync's restartability not work so well. Maybe

[Monotone-devel] Policy branches - first steps

2007-02-16 Thread Paul Crowley
As Graydon points out, we'll learn a lot more about what direction to take policy branches by implementing them than by thinking about them. I propose we make an incremental step that will get us moving, and that we'll be able to build on later. So here are the corners I want to cut to get

Re: [Monotone-devel] netsync restartability [was, Re: summit photos]

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Keller
Timothy Brownawell schrieb: On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 06:04 +1100, Daniel Carosone wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:50:49AM +1100, Daniel Carosone wrote: I also have one at 204.152.190.23:4692 (you'll need to use your keys) /me notes that multi-hundred-MB revisions make netsync's

[Monotone-devel] Re: netsync restartability [was, Re: summit photos]

2007-02-16 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Keller schreef: Timothy Brownawell schrieb: On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 06:04 +1100, Daniel Carosone wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:50:49AM +1100, Daniel Carosone wrote: I also have one at 204.152.190.23:4692 (you'll need to use your keys)

[Monotone-devel] Mac OS X - resource fork empty after checkout

2007-02-16 Thread th wies
Hello, i just started using monotone 0.32 on mac osx and found the following problem. i have a myres.rsrc file created with ResEdit in os9 classic mode. by nature this file has only a resource fork. data size is zero. after checkout from the database, the resource fork is gone :( i have

Re: [Monotone-devel] Monotone CVS sync

2007-02-16 Thread Christof Petig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 William Uther schrieb: State: - - cvssync1: finished, tested, slow - - cvssync3: work in progress, did work before the summit, needs a bit more work to compile again, passes test cases but I saw some strange issues - - cvssync4: proposed by

Re: [Monotone-devel] Mac OS X - resource fork empty after checkout

2007-02-16 Thread Thomas Keller
th wies schrieb: i have a myres.rsrc file created with ResEdit in os9 classic mode. by nature this file has only a resource fork. data size is zero. after checkout from the database, the resource fork is gone :( I have to admit that I never heard of this feature, I just learned about it by

[Monotone-devel] website bugs (404s and such)

2007-02-16 Thread Evan Martin
I think I mentioned one already, but all of the following links on the home page are 404s: FAQ GUIs/other tools wiki self-hosting info test coverage Some are from wikis being in flux(?) but others (like test coverage) are really gone. The browse source link isn't a 404 but it also isn't

Re: [Monotone-devel] Mac OS X - resource fork empty after checkout

2007-02-16 Thread Brian May
Thomas == Thomas Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas I have to admit that I never heard of this feature, I just learned about Thomas it by querying Wikipedia [0]. As far as I've read it is possible to have Thomas two-fork files on os9 (data and resource fork) and even

[Monotone-devel] Re: website bugs (404s and such)

2007-02-16 Thread Graydon Hoare
Evan Martin wrote: The browse source link isn't a 404 but it also isn't useful because there's a million branches in that viewmtn. Finally, mailing list and logs are in both the middle and rightmost columns. Maybe that's intentional. Yeah, the website is in flux. Sorry. It's moving from one

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Why is utf8 type _NOVERIFY, and other vocab stuff.

2007-02-16 Thread Justin Patrin
On 2/15/07, Lapo Luchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zack Weinberg wrote: The //IGNORE and //TRANSLIT features are glibc / GNU libiconv specific, but I would have thought that they were available in recent Gentoo (they've been around since 2001 give or take). I thought they would be present on

Re: [Monotone-devel] Mac OS X - resource fork empty after checkout

2007-02-16 Thread Patrick Georgi
Brian May schrieb: - Microsoft has introduced something similar in Windows (Vista?) (for compatibility with Mac OS?). NTFS supports data streams for years and years already. Windows 2000 at least already makes use of them for various purposes, too (and I think NT4 already had them. Simple

Re: [Monotone-devel] iconv diffs [Was: Why is utf8...]

2007-02-16 Thread Patrick Georgi
Nathaniel Smith schrieb: have no idea what's going to happen on, say, OSX or *BSD or Solaris. For solaris: it will fail as it can't find that table you refer (ASCII//whatever) as it's non-standard. The same for BSD, unless they rebuilt the GNU extension (in which case you'd better look out