[Monotone-devel] cvssync plans/status?

2009-01-22 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi all,

It's been a long time since I've hacked on monotone.  At work we use CVS for
our development, and for a variety of reasons that's not likely to change.
The group I work with would like to set up a sort of experimental
development repository to allow us to hack on stuff that is potentially to
destabalizing to live in the real CVS repo, but lets us collaborate easily
while working on roughing out ideas, and would let us merge branches back
into the CVS repo more easily when we find the direction we actually want to
go.

It looks like the nvm.cvssync is defunct, and nvm.cvssync.refactor has had
changes merged from mainline (and also contains an experimental
db-compaction branch?) as recently as spring of 2008 by Christof,
nvc.cvssync.attrs was worked on spring of 2007 by Will.  Is that a fair
summary?

Does anyone use any of these branches at the moment for working on code
whose canonical repo is the CVS version?  Are they stable enough for you?

How much work remains to get something in shape to go into mainline?

Thanks for any information,
-emile

(PS If anyone has had a good experience with another tool for this general
use case I'd appreciate tips, although if we want to take it off list as
not-monotone-related I understand.)
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Mini Summit 2009

2009-01-17 Thread Emile Snyder
There's a link off of the monotone home page.  It's channel #monotone on
irc.oftc.net I think.
-emile

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Leake 
stephen_le...@stephe-leake.org wrote:


 Where is the IRC? I can't find instructions for that on the mtn wiki
 (I _really_ miss the search facility there!). I have Jabber with an
 IRC backend installed on my Debian box; where do I point it?


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[Monotone-devel] Re: re-licensing the monotone manual

2007-02-19 Thread Emile Snyder
I am fine with anything I contributed to the manual being released under
the GPL, v2 or later (although I don't think I have anything
sufficiently substantive to matter).

-Emile Snyder

(And hi to all you monotone developers; long time no see.  Hope all is
well with everyone.)

On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 18:42 -0800, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
 Currently, the main monotone manual, 'monotone.texi' in the source
 tree, is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL).
 Now, it turns out that this is a lousy license, that is probably not
 even DFSG-free[1].  It certainly has a whole host of obnoxious
 practical problems; in particular, it is never possible to move text
 from code into documentation, or vice-versa -- the GFDL and GPL are
 entirely incompatible licenses.  
 
 So we want to change the license on monotone.texi to be GPL.  This is
 a boring and annoying change to make, which is why we've been letting
 it slide for months and months, but... it really should happen.  So.
 If you're getting this as a personal mail, it's because at some point
 you touched the monotone manual, and I ask you:
 
   PLEASE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, CC'ING monotone-devel@nongnu.org, AND
   SAY THAT YOU ARE FINE WITH YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO monotone.texi BEING
   RELEASED UNDER THE GPL (v2 or later).
 
 Probably not everyone on this list actually made significant enough
 changes to have a copyright interest, but hey, it's easier this way...
 
 Cheers,
 -- Nathaniel
 
 [1] The question of DFSG-freeness is actually sort of complicated --
 Debian as a whole does consider the GFDL to be DFSG-free (as long as
 you don't have any invariant section sections), but only because they
 had a whole general body vote on the matter, and that was the majority
 outcome.  OTOH, the denizens of debian-legal, who presumably are the
 subset of Debian developers who actually know what they're talking
 about, overwhelmingly disagree:
   http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml#survey
 Personally, I find the arguments that GFDL is non-free to be the most
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Bug report: mtn annotate fails with wrong character case of the filename

2006-05-04 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi Vesselin,

I worked on the annotate stuff alot back in the day, but haven't had
much time to devote to monotone lately.  So I'll do my best to figure
this out, but I might not be able to give it the time it needs...

You mention wrong character case of the filename in the subject; can you
elaborate on what you mean there?  Like, 'mtn annotate path/to/file.ext'
works ok but 'mtn annotate path/to/FILE.EXT' doesn't?

I'm trying to scrounge up a Windows 2000 box to test things on.  Can you
give me any more details that might help me reproduce this issue: do you
have any un-checked in changes in the working copy where you tried this
(assuming you tried from within a working copy)?  Has the file in
question been renamed/moved/recently added?  Any funny characters in the
name?  Was the database recently rosterified?

Thanks for the report,
-emile

On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 15:02 +0930, Vesselin Kostadinov wrote:
 OS: Windows 2000
 
 I have a real file path/to/FILE.EXT in the monotone repository.
 
 mtn annotate path/to/File.ext
 mtn: fatal: std::logic_error: roster.cc:180: invariant 'fetching
 nonexistent entry from children' violated
 mtn:
 mtn: this is almost certainly a bug in monotone.
 mtn: please send this error message, the output of 'mtn --full-version',
 mtn: and a description of what you were doing to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mtn: wrote debugging log to C:/#/_MTN/debug
 mtn: if reporting a bug, please include this file
 
 * Note: the # bit has been edited
 
 mtn --full-version
 monotone 0.26 (base revision: unknown)
 Running on  : Windows NT/2000/XP (5.0, build 2195) on ia32
 (level 15, rev 521)
 C++ compiler: GNU C++ version 3.4.5 (mingw special)
 C++ standard library: GNU libstdc++ version 20051201
 Boost version   : 1_33_1
 Changes since base revision:
 unknown
 
 A severely edited version of file debug is attached. All edits have
 been marked with #.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 
 Regards
 
 Vesselin.
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Re: [Monotone-devel] renaming monotone executable (again)

2006-03-10 Thread Emile Snyder
Another vote for 'mtn' from me.

Gut reaction to other contenders (in addition to all being poorer
abbreviations):
mt: name collisions are bad
m: too cute
mmm: too annoying to type
moto: just don't like it ;)

But none of the possible outcomes will make me howl with rage or
anything.

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: multiple heads...

2006-03-05 Thread Emile Snyder
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 22:37 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
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 Emile Snyder wrote:
  On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 20:56 +0100, Tim Ansell wrote:
 
 snip
 
 Say in CVS, when I create a branch called Mithro's Changes I now have
 two heads, the latest version of the main branch (which CVS refers to
 as HEAD) and the latest version of the Mithro's Changes. At any stage
 I can in theory merge the two branches back together (which is a pain
 under CVS that nobody actually does it).
  
  
  Exactly.  With monotone, it's not painful at all.  You can decide at
  commit time that your work belongs in a new branch, repeated merges work
  well, etc. etc..
 
 This isn't completely true, they work well with 0.26pre using mark and
 merge, but not quite with 0.25 3-way algo.

You're right of course; I should have been more careful in my phrasing.

 Two other things:
 * I'd really like a 'monotone patch-commit' command which I can feed a
 patch and it will add/drop/rename + commit the stuff inside.
 * lua hooks inside the repository, someone called it 'management
 branches', but I'd just like to ships some hooks inside OE.

Noted.

Thanks,
-emile

 regards,
 
 Koen
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[Monotone-devel] RE: cairo, git and mercurial

2006-02-09 Thread Emile Snyder
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 13:46 +0300, Zakirov, Salikh wrote:
  ... git allows a more fully distributed
  model making it easier for users to pull (even speculatively with
  fetch) from multiple sources, track them in the local repository
  as separate branches and merge when appropriate.
 
  This is something that's also possible with Monotone.  Mercurial makes
  this possible, but it's much more of a first class operation in mt
 and
  git.
 
 From the usability point of view, first class branches in Monotone
 has a disadvantage of being completely equal in rights. 
 You can't just pull from remote reposotiry and start browsing the code,
 you will also need to find out which branch is the main one.

This is true.  I can think of two things that might ease this pain
1. Extend the netsync protocol so that you can easily ask the server
what branches it's serving.
2. Also extend it so that it can show you branch groups, where a
branch group is the set of branches which are attached to a single
connected DAG of revisions.  This would let you quickly see when there
were multiple projects (ie. no overlapping code) in one repository.

Would these changes make the co-equal first class branches more
appealing to you?

Apologies if this is straying to far afield from mercurial.  I've cc:ed
the monotone devel list, and discussion can continue there if it's more
appropriate.

-emile

 What's more, this full first class branch support can easily be
 overused
 by putting multiple unrelated projects in the same database. This does
 make harder to figure out what is what in the repository.
 
 IMHO, the most usable solution is
 * have one designated unnamed main branch
 * allow arbitrary number of named branches in the same repository
 
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[Monotone-devel] PATCH: embedded quote warning

2006-01-31 Thread Emile Snyder
Someone on IRC had an issue today where they did
  monotone sync servername 'branchname'
and it pulled 0 revisions.  They then tried 
  monotone sync servername branchname

and were successful.  The were running monotone on windows; I seem to
recall someone else getting confused like this before as well.

Is the following patch an appropriate method of warning users that this
might be happening?

thanks,
-emile

# 
# old_revision [b5ccb7aef03d1d54935ac57c76dc4056a0283a27]
# 
# patch globish.cc
#  from [9bb3f311393edb3c7bc58e64337e55bedd9549e7]
#to [b331af74203fab4c6befcab3de6233083971a283]
# 

--- globish.cc	9bb3f311393edb3c7bc58e64337e55bedd9549e7
+++ globish.cc	b331af74203fab4c6befcab3de6233083971a283
@@ -124,6 +124,19 @@
 globish_matcher::globish_matcher(utf8 const  include_pat, utf8 const  exclude_pat)
 {
   std::string re;
+
+  if (include_pat().find_first_of('\) != std::string::npos)
+{
+  W(F(include branch pattern contains a quote character:\n));
+  W(F(%s\n) % include_pat());
+}
+
+  if (exclude_pat().find_first_of('\) != std::string::npos)
+{
+  W(F(exclude branch pattern contains a quote character:\n));
+  W(F(%s\n) % exclude_pat());
+}
+
   checked_globish_to_regex(include_pat(), re);
   r_inc = re;
   checked_globish_to_regex(exclude_pat(), re);
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[Monotone-devel] per file DAGs in n.v.m.annotate

2006-01-30 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi all,

I've been experimenting on net.venge.monotone.annotate with making
annotate faster by keeping a DAG in the database of the revisions
modifying each file.  This could conceivably be used to speed up certain
log operations as well (although at the moment it's just revisions which
have content marks, and log would want rename or attribute changes as
well.)  annotate output using the new per-file-dags is not identical to
the old annotate yet, so either the new one is buggy or the old one is,
and either way I need to write new tests.

Some preliminary performance numbers though:
~30 minutes to 'db filedagify' my monotone db (with all n.v.monotone*
branches)
new db is ~89MB, old one ~87MB
annotate commands.cc: ~10minutes old, ~3minutes new
annotate annotate.cc:  ~6minutes old, ~11 *seconds* new

So for young, relatively rarely changed files this is a big big win.
But for the older, frequently touched files I'm not sure what the best
way to get faster is.

I haven't tested to see what kind of impact it has on commits on big
trees with lots of changes but I can't imagine it's that bad.  But it
might make initial pulls a fair bit worse, depending on how much of that
30 minute filedagify is reading and parsing rosters vs. walking them and
entering the node_revision_ancestry rows.

Any comments or thoughts welcome.
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Bug in monotone automate inventory

2005-10-27 Thread Emile Snyder
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 19:57 +0200, Jon Bright wrote:
 Emile Snyder wrote:
  
  No, this is clearly a bug in monotone.  You created a legal file on your
  system in the working copy, and monotone choked and died.  Thanks for
  digging and figuring it out,
 
 An interesting question - should monotone allow you to create any old 
 filename, or should it restrict you to names with half a chance of being 
 cross-platform compatible?  I'd argue for at least the default to be the 
 latter, on the grounds that

I have no real opinion on this point; I was just saying that 'monotone
ls unknown' should *never* die because of the name of any unknown file.
If we can't print some filename as is, then we should escape characters
in some appropriate way (handwaving here).  When you try to 'monotone
add' a file like that, it should perhaps disallow it (with some nicer
error like 'monotone cannot handle control characters in filenames, not
adding filename containing 0x07'), but again, shouldn't dump with an
invariant triggered.

thanks,
-emile

 a) Almost no-one really, really wants that file to be called that (as in 
 this case)
 b) Otherwise, monotone gets to play fun games when it tries to check 
 that file out on a system that doesn't support that as a filename...
 
 --
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Promoting usher to become a standard utility

2005-10-25 Thread Emile Snyder
I vote for in tree, and part of standard releases.  Serving multiple
distinct projects a'la CVS from the same server comes up repeatedly on
the mailing list as something people would like to do.  If monotone's
answer is to have a separate utility to do it (and I like what I've seen
of usher so far too), then I think it should be as painless as possible
to get going with it.  Not, oh, yeah, go download this other package
and... in the manual.

best,
-emile

On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 12:13 +0200, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:48:22 -0700, Nathaniel 
 Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 njs Another option would be to move it out tree entirely, as a
 njs separate add-on that implements the 'monotone usher interface' or
 njs something. Doesn't seem like anything that really gains a whole
 njs lot from shipping with monotone itself (except as sample code),
 njs since the user base for it is so special; and if it's turning
 njs into a full-fledged app, then maybe moving it out would give
 njs useful flexibility in terms of things like choosing an
 njs appropriate testing architecture...
 
 I would agree, except that there's a dependency on the supporting
 features in netsync, so it would probably be good to make sure that
 for any release, usher and monotone are in sync.
 
 Regarding how special the use base of usher is, I think that's a
 matter of opinion.  I know a bunch of people who like the idea, and
 I'd like to hear the rest of the list express their opinion before we
 declare anyone special.
 
 njs (I swear, the grammar is viral. :-))
 
 Heh :-)
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone disapprove does not give correct branch cert

2005-10-25 Thread Emile Snyder
Yuck.  cert.cc:guess_branch(revision) defaults to using
app.branch_name() if one is set; ie. you are in a working copy.
There are 4 commands using guess_branch to decide how to cert a new
revision:

approve
disapprove
checkout
commit

I would argue that only commit should default to using the working copy
value if one is set.  approve and disapprove both take a revision as a
specific argument; I can sort of see using the value of the working copy
branch if that given revision has no branch cert, but not the other way
around.

Am I missing something?

thanks,
-emile

On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 16:52 +0200, Wim Oudshoorn wrote:
 In our repository we have a few revisions with no branch certificate.
 It seems that they are caused by using
 
 monotone disapprove REVISION
 
 AFAICT monotone disapprove tries to figure out the branch
 from the current working directory and uses that branch
 to certify the disapprove node.  
 If the command is given outside any working tree it 
 does not give any branch certificate to the disapprove node.
 
 Wim Oudshoorn.
 
 
 
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: monotone disapprove does not give correct branch cert

2005-10-25 Thread Emile Snyder
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 18:50 +0100, Bruce Stephens wrote:
 Emile Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I would argue that only commit should default to using the working copy
  value if one is set.  approve and disapprove both take a revision as a
  specific argument; I can sort of see using the value of the working copy
  branch if that given revision has no branch cert, but not the other way
  around.
 
 I'm unconvinced that disapprove ought to do that.  Surely it ought to
 use the branches that are on the original revision, maybe giving a
 warning if there aren't any?  (I guess branchless revisions are
 unusual enough to merit at least a warning?)  Overridable by the
 --branch option, I guess.

I'm good with that.

thanks,
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[Monotone-devel] projects using monotone?

2005-10-20 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi all,

I'd like to put together an 'early adopters' page for the monotone
website that gives links to publicly accessible projects using monotone,
along with some quick stats (size of db, number of committers, number of
revs, etc.).

Evaluating a tool is hard if you don't have any full-scale projects to
use it on, so this would be a chance for people interested in monotone a
chance to check it out by trying to use it to hack on real projects
(besides monotone itself).  It would also let people get a feel for the
types of projects that have been comfortable migrating to monotone so
far, and the sorts of issues they've had to deal with.

So, if you are using monotone in some public capacity and wouldn't mind
a little free publicity, send in a link!

I also wouldn't mind notes from people that have tried to migrate to
monotone but discovered they were unable to for some reason.  What were
the deal breakers?

So far, between monotone-devel archives and google, my list is:
xaraya
colinux
metatheme
ctwm

If you are one of these projects and *don't* want to be listed on such a
page, please let me know that too.

thanks,
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Re: [Monotone-devel] projects using monotone?

2005-10-20 Thread Emile Snyder
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 13:46 -0700, Justin Patrin wrote:
 OpenEmbedded is using monotone currently.
 http://openembedded.org
 
 Looks like we currently have 39 public keys in our DB, although the #
 of regular comitters is 10 or less I think. We have 3+ servers set up
 to sync with each other and commit e-mails/rss/website going out via
 CIAbot. Our DB is about 200MB (or at least mine is, sizes seem to be
 different for different people). We have over 7000 files in the
 database.

Cool, thanks for the feedback.  From the website it looks like you don't
allow anonymous read-only access to the monotone servers; is that right
or did I just miss the link?

-emile

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[Monotone-devel] rfc on h: selector behavior

2005-10-13 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi all,

Do people think that an h:branch selector to find the heads of a branch
should accept globbing wildcard characters like the b: selector?  So if
you said 

a:bozo/h:com.circus.*

it would select any head of a branch in the com.circus.* set authored by
bozo.  There has been concern expressed on IRC that globbing needlessly
complicates things.  Also, that it's not clear whether h:* should mean

erase_ancestors(b:*)
or
union (erase_ancestors(b:b1), erase_ancestors(b:b2), ...)

Any opinions?

thanks,
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Compiling from source

2005-10-13 Thread Emile Snyder
I believe I had exactly this problem on a newer redhat system at work.
I don't pretend to understand exactly what's going on, but for me it
appeared that /lib/tls/libc.so.6 didn't like exceptions at all (a
trivial small test program that tried throwing and catching an exception
died in the same way.)

I managed to work around it by doing:

LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libc.so.6 monotone

(It looks like, from your ld output, that there's more /lib/tls
libraries linked against your build than I had, I don't know if you
would need to do this for all of them or what.)

Hope it helps, or that someone who understands this better can pipe up,
-emile

On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 13:53 +0200, Zbynek Winkler wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've managed to compile latest monotone (took about 45min) with 
 gcc-4.0.2 (BTW: thanks the great INSTALL instructions!). Something 
 changed since the last time I tried. Either gcc has improved in memory 
 consumption or the sources changed in away that it takes less memory to 
 compile (the last time I couldn't compile database.cc because 256MB of 
 RAM was not enough). So hooray!
 
 And now the problem :(. Any command I try fails...
 
 $ ./monotone help
 terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::length_error'
   what():  basic_string::_S_create
 Aborted
 
 The gdb says:
 
 (gdb) run
 Starting program: /home/zbynek/devel/net.venge.monotone/_default/monotone
 [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
 [New Thread -1212581376 (LWP 13938)]
 
 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
 [Switching to Thread -1212581376 (LWP 13938)]
 0xb7cdc5ef in memcpy () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
 (gdb) bt
 #0  0xb7cdc5ef in memcpy () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
 #1  0xb7e5d8ee in std::basic_streambufchar, std::char_traitschar 
  ::xsputn ()
from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
 #2  0xb7e52c5a in std::operator char, std::char_traitschar, 
 std::allocatorchar  ()
from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
 #3  0x08061d4a in boost::io::detail::putchar, std::char_traitschar, 
 std::allocatorchar, std::string const ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], loc_p=0xbfb88494) at 
 feed_args.hpp:93
 #4  0x080625ae in boost::io::detail::distributechar, 
 std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar, std::string const 
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at feed_args.hpp:233
 #5  0x08062673 in boost::io::detail::feedchar, std::char_traitschar, 
 std::allocatorchar, std::string const ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at feed_args.hpp:243
 #6  0x082811b4 in cpp_main (argc=1, argv=0xbfb88d94) at format_class.hpp:64
 #7  0x082837f0 in main_with_signal_handlers (argc=1, argv=0xbfb88d94) at 
 ../main.cc:294
 #8  0x082838db in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfb88d94) at ../main.cc:349
 
 Do I have some library mismatch? ldd monotone says:
 
 $ ldd monotone
 linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
 libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7f0e000)
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f0a000)
 libboost_regex-gcc-mt-1_32.so.1.32.0 = 
 /usr/lib/libboost_regex-gcc-mt-1_32.so.1.32.0 (0xb7e9)
 libboost_date_time-gcc-mt-1_32.so.1.32.0 = 
 /usr/lib/libboost_date_time-gcc-mt-1_32.so.1.32.0 (0xb7e7d000)
 libboost_filesystem-gcc-mt-1_32.so.1.32.0 = 
 /usr/lib/libboost_filesystem-gcc-mt-1_32.so.1.32.0 (0xb7e6b000)
 libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7d9)
 libm.so.6 = /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7d6a000)
 libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7d5f000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7c27000)
 libpthread.so.0 = /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7c15000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f2f000)
 librt.so.1 = /lib/tls/librt.so.1 (0xb7c0d000)
 libstdc++.so.5 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0xb7b52000)
 
 I am running debian testing with boost-1.32. I also used aclocal-1.8 
 instead of 1.7 but except couple of warnings about some quoting issues 
 everything went fine...
 
 Any help appreciated. Thanks.
 
 Zbynek
 



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Re: [Monotone-devel] rfc on h: selector behavior

2005-10-13 Thread Emile Snyder
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 00:15 -0700, Emile Snyder wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Do people think that an h:branch selector to find the heads of a branch
 should accept globbing wildcard characters like the b: selector?  So if
 you said 

Ok, no one argued against it, there were a couple of lukewarm might be
useful, and it preserves consistency.  I'm gonna go ahead and check it
in; if anyone feels it's the wrong choice it's easy to turn off.

 erase_ancestors(b:*)
 or
 union (erase_ancestors(b:b1), erase_ancestors(b:b2), ...)

This seems like a thornier question.  I still feel like the union() one
follows the least surprise principle better.  If anyone feels like the
ambiguity of which it will do makes either answer surprising, we can
turn it (globbing the h: value) off.

Thanks all,
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: rfc on h: selector behavior

2005-10-13 Thread Emile Snyder
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 10:22 +0200, Wim Oudshoorn wrote:
From a quick look in the manual I get the impression that:
 
 * All selectors accept globbing except:
   - date related selectors
   - ID selector
 
 This seems reasonable to me, dates and IDs have a very restricted
 format.  So for consistency sake, I would accept globbing.

Thats kind of my lukewarm argument too, and what I went with.
 
  erase_ancestors(b:*)
  or
  union (erase_ancestors(b:b1), erase_ancestors(b:b2), ...)
 
 Hm, difficult.  I think I might lean towards the second case.

Ditto, and for most of the same reasons.

 Head selector, how I would like to use it
 -
 
 On a related note,  I imagine myself using a head selector
 most often in a situation after monotone sync.
 If after sync I get the message that I am not based on head
 I would like to be able to do some comparision.  
 
 Scenario I:
 ...
 I have a checked out copy, without local changes,
 after synchronization I get a new head:
 
 
Working copy -- Newly received head
 
 I would like to type something like:
 
   monotone diff --revision=h:  

 So somehow you need to be able to specify the head
 of the branch of the current working copy. 

Huh, interesting.  Not sure of the right way to do it, but I can see the
desire to have it ;)

 
 Scenario II:
 
 I have checked out a copy and made local changes, which
 are not commited yet.
 
Working copy  --- Newly received head
 .
   working copy is changed on disk!!
 
 I would like to see the differences between 
 the working copy revision in the DB and the new head.
 
monotone diff --revision=i:$(cat MT/revision) --revision=h:
 
 Hm, is there a selector matching the current working copy?

Well, if you want the current *contents* of the working copy, diff
assumes that, but I don't think there is one for the revision in
MT/revision.

 Scenario III:
 .
 I have a working copy and have commited local changes, which
 are commited:
 
 
 Ancestor  --- Newly received head
   \
\--- Working copy
 
 I would like to be able to do something like, [fantasy syntax follows]
 
monotone diff --revision=lca:(h:|i:$(cat MT/revision)) --revision=h:
 
 for the differences between ancestor and newly received head.

Hmmm.  I can see the desire for such a thing here too, but appropriate
syntax totally fails me ;)

Thanks for the feedback,
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: rfc on h: selector behavior

2005-10-13 Thread Emile Snyder
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 12:58 -0700, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
 Oh, yes, please -- I definitely think h:nothing should mean
 h:current branch...

Ok, will do.

 (For that matter, perhaps b:nothing should mean b:current branch.)

Can do that too.

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[Monotone-devel] monotone serve --bind=addr:port patch

2005-10-11 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi all,

Below is a patch, per the venge.net/monotone/quickies.html list, to
change the monotone serve syntax from

monotone serve ADDRESS[:PORT] PATTERN ...
  to
monotone [--bind=[ADDRESS:]PORT] serve PATTERN ...

where, if you leave out ADDRESS it listens on all interfaces, which is
also the default behavior if you leave out --bind entirely.  Any
objections be me committing this?  Problems with the documentation
change or anything?

thanks,
-emile
# 
# old_revision [d96ca5cc69312da41e303fb8ec1f096ac6970aee]
# 
# patch app_state.cc
#  from [58db112140d05dcb5ffaea7e7eea44f04662312f]
#to [7fb51954421323439c2f12876ed81b71e7eaf634]
# 
# patch app_state.hh
#  from [b310058ad20b794c7b4347eb35d495b980f149cd]
#to [2ec009494567db9c8b00030a7bf18e089ba5195a]
# 
# patch commands.cc
#  from [c5293cbb4f245dffda5d6070c015405c159f55c4]
#to [dc66891c75b936926a1c841ef2358d41f1d6cd9b]
# 
# patch monotone.cc
#  from [bb6d6f0a31299f4d9848564c965f1d95eecb4827]
#to [f50b692ac580cf7cff3ddc11f27cbc5c1148d3c7]
# 
# patch monotone.texi
#  from [5b6a6b87eae80009ef88f9c5f58dddcea441c296]
#to [dc9a4ffcfa81f280cce66e7e90a88f180987111f]
# 
# patch netsync.cc
#  from [b85942e30b82c37025d535266b0f317718527b5a]
#to [ce285644b38da5591669e97b986c2cf5a287ff7f]
# 
# patch netxx/address.cxx
#  from [d10a78dd01637cc991e2bc3ab35c4570443d042d]
#to [4cab9d6c49a51edabcc3b74ca48ec0bd085e3dee]
# 
# patch options.hh
#  from [ac7bfa54b40a56f68dcdd40c83f994613aa7ab9f]
#to [e2be96021f06d474833fcb306e5a7cfea37ce52a]
# 
# patch tests/t_netsync_single.at
#  from [07187540f12b7fd8cf6ad91b02225c052745a011]
#to [aad7ba8fa47299d3c9ab357521166b6038364cd3]
# 
# patch testsuite.at
#  from [f665775bce51321c531198d61e90fe14ba56a107]
#to [299c060101e3207af910adf2800d010bd25fe038]
# 

*** app_state.cc	58db112140d05dcb5ffaea7e7eea44f04662312f
--- app_state.cc	7fb51954421323439c2f12876ed81b71e7eaf634
***
*** 38,44 
  rcfiles(true), diffs(false),
  no_merges(false), set_default(false), verbose(false), search_root(/),
  depth(-1), last(-1), diff_format(unified_diff), diff_args_provided(false),
! use_lca(false), execute(false)
  {
db.set_app(this);
  }
--- 38,44 
  rcfiles(true), diffs(false),
  no_merges(false), set_default(false), verbose(false), search_root(/),
  depth(-1), last(-1), diff_format(unified_diff), diff_args_provided(false),
! use_lca(false), execute(false), bind_address(), bind_port()
  {
db.set_app(this);
  }

*** app_state.hh	b310058ad20b794c7b4347eb35d495b980f149cd
--- app_state.hh	2ec009494567db9c8b00030a7bf18e089ba5195a
***
*** 62,67 
--- 62,69 
utf8 diff_args;
bool use_lca;
bool execute;
+   utf8 bind_address;
+   utf8 bind_port;
  
  
  

*** commands.cc	c5293cbb4f245dffda5d6070c015405c159f55c4
--- commands.cc	dc66891c75b936926a1c841ef2358d41f1d6cd9b
***
*** 1946,1974 
   utf8  addr,
   utf8  include_pattern, utf8  exclude_pattern,
   bool use_defaults,
   app_state  app)
  {
// handle host argument
!   if (args.size() = 1)
  {
!   addr = idx(args, 0);
!   if (use_defaults
!(!app.db.var_exists(default_server_key) || app.set_default))
  {
!   P(F(setting default server to %s\n) % addr);
!   app.db.set_var(default_server_key, var_value(addr()));
  }
  }
-   else
- {
-   N(use_defaults, F(no hostname given));
-   N(app.db.var_exists(default_server_key),
- F(no server given and no default server set));
-   var_value addr_value;
-   app.db.get_var(default_server_key, addr_value);
-   addr = utf8(addr_value());
-   L(F(using default server address: %s\n) % addr);
- }
  
// handle include/exclude args
if (args.size() = 2 || !app.exclude_patterns.empty())
--- 1946,1978 
   utf8  addr,
   utf8  include_pattern, utf8  exclude_pattern,
   bool use_defaults,
+  bool serve_mode,
   app_state  app)
  {
// handle host argument
!   if (!serve_mode)
  {
!   if (args.size() = 1)
  {
!   addr = idx(args, 0);
!   if (use_defaults
!(!app.db.var_exists(default_server_key) || app.set_default))
! {
!   P(F(setting default server to %s\n) % addr);
!   app.db.set_var(default_server_key, var_value(addr()));
! }
  }
+   else
+ {
+   N(use_defaults, F(no hostname given));
+   N(app.db.var_exists(default_server_key),
+ F(no server given and no default server set));
+   var_value addr_value;
+   

Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone serve --bind=addr:port patch

2005-10-11 Thread Emile Snyder
Color me impatient.  I got one thumbs up on IRC, and the quickies file
is supposed to be all uncontroversial items, so I committed.  Just
consider the email fair warning of the change in usage (it can bite you
because the old command form is still valid, but it uses what you intend
to be the address to listen on as another pattern for branches to
export.)

thanks,
-emile

On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 15:19 -0700, Emile Snyder wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Below is a patch, per the venge.net/monotone/quickies.html list, to
 change the monotone serve syntax from
 
 monotone serve ADDRESS[:PORT] PATTERN ...
   to
 monotone [--bind=[ADDRESS:]PORT] serve PATTERN ...
 
 where, if you leave out ADDRESS it listens on all interfaces, which is
 also the default behavior if you leave out --bind entirely.  Any
 objections be me committing this?  Problems with the documentation
 change or anything?
 
 thanks,
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Serving * does not work

2005-10-11 Thread Emile Snyder
Is your shell expanding *?  I would think the command should be
monotone serve 0.0.0.0 '*'

-emile

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 01:17 +0200, Wim Oudshoorn wrote:
 When I server all branches with 
 
 monotone serve 0.0.0.0 *
 
 I can not sync from other computers, I get an error
 something like:
 
 access denied due to branch xxx.yyy
 
 Using monotone version 0.23.
 Is this known?
 
 If not I will write a more detailed report.
 
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Bug in annotate, renamed files?

2005-10-09 Thread Emile Snyder
Is this in a project that you could let me see, or proprietary code?  It
would make it much easier to debug if I could do a pull of your project
db.

thanks,
-emile

On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 14:55 +0200, Wim Oudshoorn wrote:
 In one project containing 3 files the command
 
 monotone annotate file
 
 files on 2 of the 3 files.  Both files that fail have been
 renamed in the past, but I am not sure that is the reason.
 Also both files give a different error.  
 I tried this with version 0.20 and version 0.23 and both failed.
 
 The following description comes from version 0.23, the prebuild
 mac os x binary.  Full version information is at the end of this mail.
 
 File one:  e-monotone.el
 
 
 Error:
 
   monotone: fatal: std::logic_error: ../annotate.cc:550: invariant
 'I(delta_entry_dst(fdelta_iter) == work_unit.node_fid)' violated
   monotone: 
   monotone: 
   monotone: this is almost certainly a bug in monotone.
   monotone: please send this error message, the output of 'monotone 
 --full-version',
   monotone: and a description of what you were doing to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   monotone: wrote debugging log to /Users/woudshoo/src/em-a/MT/debug
 
 
 Debug file ends with:
 
   do_annotate_node processing edge 
 from parent 21454253c9477ac8b44c9de7b46c21e69c34456c 
 to child a4660bef29785e139533ea07420d0857f45fac54
 
   file wims-monotone.el in parent revision 
 21454253c9477ac8b44c9de7b46c21e69c34456c is wims-monotone.el
   ../annotate.cc:550: invariant 'I(delta_entry_dst(fdelta_iter) == 
 work_unit.node_fid)' violated
   saving current work set: 0 items
   finished saving work set
   
 
 Full debug file:
 
 
 
 
 File two: e-monotone.texi
 
 
 Error:
 
   monotone: fatal: std::logic_error: ../annotate.cc:455: 
   invariant 'I(file_interned.size() == other.file_interned.size())' 
 violated
   monotone: 
   monotone: 
   monotone: this is almost certainly a bug in monotone.
   monotone: please send this error message, the output of 'monotone 
 --full-version',
   monotone: and a description of what you were doing to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   monotone: wrote debugging log to /Users/woudshoo/src/em-a/MT/debug
 
 Debug file end with:
 
   do_annotate_node processing edge 
  from parent 21454253c9477ac8b44c9de7b46c21e69c34456c 
  to child 4684e0611ebc668312162c3d8c01b7ec72d0e649
   file wims-monotone.texi in parent revision 
 21454253c9477ac8b44c9de7b46c21e69c34456c is wims-monotone.texi
   parent file identical, set copied all mapped and copy lineage
   merging lineage 
  from node 4684e0611ebc668312162c3d8c01b7ec72d0e649 
  to parent 21454253c9477ac8b44c9de7b46c21e69c34456c
   ../annotate.cc:455: invariant 'I(file_interned.size() == 
 other.file_interned.size())' violated
   saving current work set: 0 items
   
 
 Full debug file:
 
 
 
 Full version information
 
 
 monotone 0.23 (base revision: e32d161b8d5cde9f0968998cc332f82f82c27006)
 Running on: Darwin 8.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.2.0: Fri Jun 24 17:46:54 PDT 
 2005; root:xnu-792.2.4.obj~3/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh
 Changes since base revision: 
 new_manifest [68895899b164e1f443f988efef93e8384f1b182a]
 
 old_revision [e32d161b8d5cde9f0968998cc332f82f82c27006]
 old_manifest [68895899b164e1f443f988efef93e8384f1b182a]
 
 
 
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Re: [Monotone-devel] [PATCH] and RFC: binary files merging and hook

2005-05-26 Thread Emile Snyder
I like the idea of an .mt-attrs approach because the binary'ness of a
file is a property of the file, not something that different people
should have different ideas about (a'la hooks).

I don't have particularly strong feelings about the right way to help
monotone automatically figure it out for you, but I do feel strongly
that there should be some way to explicitly tell monotone to treat a
file as binary and have it do the right thing from then on.

thanks,
-emile

On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 21:09 -0700, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
 On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 12:33:04AM +0200, rghetta wrote:
  If the hook returns nil, the file will be treated as binary if the 
  monotone function guess_binary() returns true, i.e. if the files 
  contains NUL bytes or a selection of other ASCII control chars (for 
  example, STX and ETX).
 
 Another possible way to do binary support, for discussion:
   -- have the merger peek at .mt-attrs, and if a binary attribute is
  set on a file, consider it binary.  (Currently nothing in .mt-attrs
  has hard-coded behavior, so this would be a change.)
   -- use the cool new attr_init hooks to automatically guess at add
  time whether each file is binary.
   -- never again automatically touch this attribute; let people set it
  to what they want, if they want
 
 Another possible way to do binary support, for discussion:
   -- just use guess_binary() on the data at merge time
 
 I don't tend to store binary files under VCS, so I don't have as much
 of an intuition about what the nicest way to do so would be; it'd be
 good to hear opinions from those actually affected by this :-)
 
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Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone update overwrites local changes

2005-05-17 Thread Emile Snyder
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 21:21, Derek Scherger wrote:
 it seems to me that there are three settings for such a hook
 
 - fail on pre-existing files
   (cvs, svn, etc. do this)
 
 - preserve pre-existing files but continue
   (which I think would be useful occasionally)
 
 - clobber pre-existing files
   (what monotone does now)

I'd like door number 4: move pre-existing files out of the way (foo -
foo.bak.revid maybe?) and continue.

thanks,
-emile

 fail and clobber seem like the extremes and preserve seems like it might
 actually be a nice compromise.
 
 Cheers,
 Derek
 
 
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Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone update overwrites local changes

2005-05-11 Thread Emile Snyder
See tests/t_add_stomp_file.at ;)

-emile

On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 10:52, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
 Suppose I have two working copies A and B, and an unknown file F in
 both. I then add A/F, commit this, and finally update B. monotone will
 trample over the contents of B/F overwriting it with the version
 committed from A/F. I don't think that's sensible behaviour, as update
 should not be a destructive operation.
 
 One option is to punt like CVS does and refuse to update unless B/F is
 moved away. More useful would be to initiate a two-way-merge between
 the repository version and what's already there. The latter is already
 done when I do monotone add B/F before updating. (A middle-of-the-
 road solution would be to punt with a reminder that one can either
 move F away or add it to get merging behaviour.)

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Re: [Monotone-devel] [patch]move attributes on rename

2005-05-03 Thread Emile Snyder
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 10:48, Timothy Brownawell wrote:
 On 5/2/05, Henrik Holmboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nathaniel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
snip
  command-specific-option. For this to be acceptable, though, I think on
  drop we'd have to cache the deleted file somewhere, for disaster
  recovery.
  
  I would suggest that Monotone shouldnt contain a built-in Traschcan,
  for the very same reason rm doesnt.
 
 Doesn't it already, in the form of monotone revert filename?

Not for all situations; if you 'monotone drop foo' and foo had some
changes that were not checked in yet, then revert doesn't help you much.

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Thoughts about 'testresult'...

2005-04-21 Thread Emile Snyder
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 00:55, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:
...snip...
 I'm proposing to change that behavior by making things more explicit.
 Instead of getting implicitely stuck on revisions with true testresult
 certs, there should be a way to explicitely ask to get only those.  As
 fat as I can tell, the simplest way would be with another selector.
 Since we're talking about results, I propose 'r', with the following
 format:
 
   r:keyid

So, what commands would use this, and how would the final behavior
differ?  Does update now never update you to a rev with a true testcert
*unless* you give it this selector?  That seems counter-intuitive in the
other direction.

 keyid would simply be the key with which the testresult cert has been
 signed, since that key is supposed to represent the test that has been
 successfully performed.
 
 Comments?  Is this a completely wacky idea, or would people like this
 (I would, most obviously)?

r: makes me thing revision, is t: taken?

thanks,
-emile

 Cheers,
 Richard
 
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[Monotone-devel] cvs_import/sync questions

2005-04-19 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi all,

Is it worth looking at cvs bugs on the main branch, or is the cvssync
branch going to supersede it?  Is cvssync close to merging?  Is cvssync
stable enough that I should try to figure out bugs on it, or is it still
in flux and I should just let Christof do his thing?

thanks,
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[Monotone-devel] Re: resend: cvs_pull bug and test for n.v.m.cvssync branch

2005-04-18 Thread Emile Snyder
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 05:36, Christof Petig wrote:
...
 I imported the test. But currently I have a problem of zombie revisions
 appearing on cvs_pull (currently dead files reappear).
 
 I'll tackle the problem later this week (sorry)

No sweat, just wanted to make sure it got through to you.

thanks,
-emile

Christof

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