Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
David, I agree with you wholeheartedly on this issue. When I'm in the market for a particular one-sheet I always consider whether or not it's for investment purposes or for presentation purposes. If it's for presentation purposes (and by that I mean whether I plan to have it framed and displayed) than 9 times out of ten I prefer a one sheet that's linen-backed simply because it will look better in a frame. I don't like the look of a one sheet that's been folded and just stuck in a frame. If the one sheet has some minor fold separations sticking it in a frame can over time make the condition worse. The one sheet will inevitably slip in the frame and may chip further. When I buy a restored linen-backed poster, I look for one that doesn't have a lot of paper missing or defects such as bleed through that have simply been painted over and will reappear in time. Restoration has gotten a bad reputation because there are some auctions (and I am NOT referring to the Heritage auctions) in which posters are so badly restored in an attempt to deliberately deceive, that unless one personally inspects the pieces up for auction you can wind up buying a painting, not a poster. That's why I stopped buying long-distance from some of these questionable auctions. I also think the issue of condition has gotten ridiculous. When I began collecting in the early 70s, condition was usually described as Very Good or Generally Used and we knew what these terms meant. Ebay has marketed to a new audience that apparently doesn't understand that the point of collecting this movie paper ephemera is that it WAS used in the original distribution of the movies. They are now looking for pristine works of art. That's fine but I just don't think it worth the extra cost. I somewhat resent that the market value of these pieces is being wildly inflated by this new group of collectors and frankly I think the Heritage auction over the last weekend illustrates this point nicely. On the other hand, I don't mind the fact that the value of my personal collection has escalated tenfold to the point that I couldn't afford to purchase most of it at today. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kusumoto Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher ** I've already covered the reasons why I think some people will remain lurkers so I won't re-visit that now. ** But I'm always suspicious of people so consumed by anything to the extent that the behavior itself -- borders on being -- in my view ONLY -- insane -- or dare I say it, ridiculously repetitive, if not moronic. Freeman Fisher is one of the most hilariously original and gifted commentators on earth. I don't agree with him all of the time, and yeah, maybe he doesn't always have good manners. ** But I confess my knee-reflex reaction to his post was closer to right on, Freeman! -- than bad Freeman!, bad Freeman! -- take him out to the woodshed! Bad Freeman! Here are my reasons: ** I can pull notes from the MoPo archive dating back several years -- where Michael has time and again RAILED against linen backing and restoration, denigrating the practice -- seeing no equivalence to restored paper in museums -- forever citing the apples aren't oranges argument to quash what conservators do in these places. I've always felt Michael's views make some collectors who buy restored paper feel misguided, if not stupid. ** Well, hey, man, not all of us are investors. We don't always give a s*** about what something costs OR its value! Some of us non-purists feel presentation is everything. Of course, we prefer unrestored paper, but something from 1919 is unlikely to turn up without chunks missing. What bugs me is I've always had the impression from Michael that backing and restoring paper ALWAYS taboo and then to get his incessant declarations that restored paper will ALWAYS fetch less in auction is so gallingly off base that I don't know where to start. ** Yes, I may definitely pay a premium for unrestored paper in VERY GOOD TO NEAR MINT CONDITION. But not always. For me, it all comes down to HOW TATTERED something presents itself at the point of sale. Our hobby emerged as an happy accident of people appreciating marketing materials intended to be thrown away. Unrestored paper that looks like rust water was sprayed over it or is riddled with worm holes, stains or rat s*** -- isn't appealing to me at all -- and exhibits the same faux character as junky, acid-filled newspaper that crumbles to dust. I'm not talking about fold lines. I'm talking about paper that's ragged ALL OVER. ** Michael prefers unrestored paper. Fine. So do most people. But to exclude even conservative restoration entirely from the equation -- is akin to saying a Grand Hotel one-sheet with chunks missing -- is ALWAYS going to fetch more than a restored version -- when so few from this title
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I think I here what freeman are saying, - what the hell are a inbacked poster Michael? [sic] Ah don't we all miss the days when the spelling police patrolled our little list like the robots in THX 1138 So since I opened up this can of worms let me conclude - I do not agree with Michael's assessment that an unbacked unrestored poster is worth a premium...I can show you a few in my collection that would make your head spin and if placed them on ebay I'd be the laughing stock of the movie collecting world... however I do agree with the assessment that a mint unbacked unrestored poster is worth a premium as in the case of the 25k creature poster compared to the restored and linenbacked. I think Freeman was trying to point out the difference in the two statements. I have a Mole people with band-aids on it (no kidding), paper missing, stains, you name it..but it is unrestored and unbacked...in this condition $75 to $125 topsthe same poster on linen and restored, 500 to 800, a mint never backed, $1000-1400 Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM Is there a rule on MOPO for the number of moronic statements a member can post in a week? freeman _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I totally agree with the incisive retrospective of David K and would like to add a little. **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I totally agree with the incisive retrospective of David K. Most people collect posters but in a general way. There are certain collectors who are obsessive about certain subjects, actors or series. As everyone knows I am a collector of many genres but I started (and still continue) as a Charlie Chan collector. If I was solely obsessed with unrestored paper my collection would be miniscule and I would be missing such one sheets as The Black Camel, Charlie Chan at the Opera, Charlie Chan at the Circus and Charlie Chan in Shanghai. Most rare posters from before World War II are almost impossible to find in unrestored pristine condition. I bought the Charlie Chan at the Circus one sheet many years ago with a hole in the poster so large that I could place my fist through it and not touch paper. Fortunately it was in the credits and did not involve any faces. The restoration is as fine as is possible. I have seen only one Warner Oland one sheet in superior unrestored condition and would be very happy to pay a godly sum for any tattered one sheets that I still do not own. If anyone has any please email me as quickly as possible. The most important point that I feel should be expressed here is that we all have opinions about movie poster collecting. For someone to attempt to impose a standard on all collectors of only unrestored material being worthwhile, and utter it over and over again is ridiculous. There are many streets in this country to travel on (some are one way only). I guess one member prefers to drive exclusively on one way streets regardless of the time it takes to arrive at the desired destination. I prefer to remain on the Freeman Fisher highway. Claude L **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA- Bullitt, Great Escape, Godfather, etc..
Hi, I listed on Ebay some Romanian posters and photos. Click on the links to see them: Bullitt -Steve McQueen, Jacqueline Bisset (hot rod) Great Escape- Steve McQueen,dir. John Sturges Bloody-thirsty Monster-Tisa Farrow-horror ROMY SCHNEIDER - color postcard #1 ROMY SCHNEIDER - small photo #19 Twist Again in Moscow -Bernard Blier, Marina Vlady Raiders of the Lost Ark(1981)-dir. Steven Spielberg The Godfather (1972)-Marlon Brando, Al Pacino Murder at 1600 -Wesley Snipes, Diana Lane Beyond the Poseidon Adventure-Michael Caine, Peter Last Waltz-Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, Ringo Star Spider-Man Strikes Back (1978)-Nicholas Hammond, Robert BRIGITTE BARDOT- original photo #34 ANN MARGRET- original photo #1 ELIZABETH TAYLOR- original photo #3 SOPHIA LOREN- original photo #6 Elvis Presley - original photo #9 CLAUDIA CARDINALE- original photo #2 ANITA EKBERG- original photo #1 ANN MARGRET ALAIN DELON- original photo #3 sexy ANITA EKBERG- original photo #2 Elvis Presley - original photo #5 ELIZABETH TAYLOR- original photo #2 BRIGITTE BARDOT- original photo #32 Elvis Presley - original photo #8 CLAUDIA CARDINALE- original photo #5 Elvis Presley - original photo #3 BRIGITTE BARDOT-Original photo #26 Circus-Charlie Chaplin, Merna Kennedy-movie poster Modern Times-Charlie Chaplin -movie poster Sharks’ Treasure -Cornel Wilde, Yaphet Kotto-horror Duellists- Harvey Keitel, Edward Fox- movie poster Tom Sawyer -Johnny Whitaker, Celeste Holm- movie poster TCity of Angels- Nicholas Cage, Meg Ryan-movie poster Dr. Pratorius-Heinz Ruhmann, Liselotte Pulver-movie pos Vértigo en la pista-Senta Berger, Fabio Testi-movie pos Fedora-Michael York, Marthe Keller-movie poster Thanks for looking, Ioan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posters and postcards: http://collectors1.fateback.com/collectibles.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY
OR Verbally bitch slap a whiney know-it-all on MOPO on his tiresome and oft repeated declarations based on a single narrow and as written fallacious declarations and when it makes them cry I am a HARSH MEANIE. Oh pooh! Michael if you can't substantiate then ..damn I can't think of a word that rhymes. (And really all I want to talk about is THE DARK KNIGHT) BUT I NEED TO END THIS HERE (SCROLL TO DARK KNIGHT IF THE FOLLOWING CAUSES INFLAMATION) Michael's original posting Ron, your comment attests to the fact that UNBACKED, UNRESTORED is better. moreover, why back something due to minor flaws. backed posters are always suspect. Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM michael My sage and intelligent rebuttal - Is there a limit to the number of moronic statements a Mopo member can make in a week? Michael YOU WIMP I know you are capable (besides proper conjugation, punctuation, subject and predicate) of something clever but VICTIMIZED? That's so Jesse Jackson! You could have come back with (and I offer these free of charge, I am just that kind of guy) 1. Well I don't know how many posts Freeman, but you just used one! 2. Well gee Freeman show me a moronic statement, bitch! 3. Oh you tink you're so smart cuz you can spel. 4. I will not dignify that with an answer because I look stupid already 5. Who the Hell do you think you are..Claude LItton? I've read his posts and you sir are no Claude Litton! 6. That's my opinion and say what you want but that's MY opinion. (Of course I never pay a premium for pristine as everyone knows . :) QUESTION? Were you paper backed at an early age? Were you forced to stretch canvas in a windowless basement in Idaho? Did your Mom actually say to you Oh honey I wouldn't change a thing! Your constant demonizing of linen backing said in absolutes I am finally calling you on. NOTHING PERSONAL I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE ON MOPO..I WISH OTHERS WOULD CHIME IN. BUT AS A FRIEND DUDE YOU'VE BECOME CURRY. A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY. First It is not a fact unrestored and unbacked is better. There are countless rare one sheets, but more so French and Italian masterpieces of printing that require deacidification and backing to keep the inks from structurally eating the actual paper poster is printed on especially those pre-1960. Michael just throw out a number - of titles that represents. Forget it you'll hurt yourself. Its 11,612 potential posters give or take I think maybe. Second Linen backed posters are not even slightly suspect because anyone can determine what has been done. YOU DISPARAGE THE PROFESSIONALISM, ARTISTRY AND INTERGRTY OF THOSE GIFTED STEWARDS OF VINTAGE PAPER with such an egregious insult as well as dealers WHO INVEST WITH THEIR COLD HARD CASH TO PRESENT A POSTER AT ITS BEST DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO WHAT DEGREE and REVEAL HONESTLY AS BEST THEY CAN AT TIME OF SALE, TRADE OR CONSIGNMENT. Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide mostly far lately (Thank you Europe!). . So Michael get yourself two things no, three things. ONE a hand held black light for card stocks and TWO single halogen work lamp for posters. The veil is lifted, clarity can be yours! You can see with black-light the touch ups of even the most discreet and professional air brushing on card stock or other papers too opaque to have light pass through..With the halogen turn the poster facing the bulb and read the shadows that magically appear through the linen those shadows tell you touch ups, paper replacement, border repairs and sometime a phone number for Althea the Concession Girl who brings new meaning to the question extra butter? The THIRD thing a sense of humor.for God's sake I didn't back over you with my jeep. I am SAVING THAT FOR JEFF POTOKAR :)) To everyone who posted such lovely comments you made my Birthday.Yes I turned 52 yesterday.,DAMN! NOW MY ASS NEEDS BACKING discreet of courseDARIO! THE DARK KNIGHT My great friend, Ron Magid took me to an all media screening at the UNIVERSAL STUDIOS IMAX last night . I cannot recommend enough this triumph of commercial yet intelligent and galvanizing storytelling. If you have the opportunity to see it at an IMAX, DO MAKE THE EFFORT. Extensive footage was shot in the IMAX format and its vertiginous, spellbinding, and exhilarating effect to a supremely complex and layered examination of the human condition at its darkest moments creates a momentous movie experience.
[MOPO] FA: Ending Sunday! Batman, Chinatown, Dial M for Murder, Dumbo, Gorgo, Jaws, Marnie, Mothra, Star Wars, The Godfather, Rocky Horror, More!
Heritage Auction Galleries' latest Sunday Internet Movie Poster Auctionhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/auction/catalog.php?SaleNo=58073ic=auctionhome_catalog featuring 421 lots, closes on Sunday, July 20, 2008 at 10pm CT. Don't miss out on your opportunity to bid on these wonderful posters and many more! New auctions with hundreds of new items every week. To view all 421 lots click herehttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/auction/catalog.php?SaleNo=58073ic=auctionhome_catalog: Highlights of the auction include: Batmanhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53034 (20th Century Fox, 1966). One Sheet (27 X 41). Cat on a Hot Tin Roofhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53062 (MGM, 1958). Poster (40 X 60). Chinatownhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53069 (Paramount, 1974). One Sheet (27 X 41) Tri-Folded. Dial M For Murderhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53093 (Warner Brothers, 1954). Window Card (14 X 22). Dumbohttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53101 (RKO, 1941). Lobby Cards (2) (11 X 14). Fiend Without a Facehttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53115 (MGM, 1958). Half Sheet (22 X 28). Godzilla vs. the Thinghttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53148 (American International, 1964). One Sheet (27 X 41). Gorgohttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53150 (MGM, 1961). One Sheet (27 X 41). Jawshttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53200 (Universal, 1975). One Sheet (27 X 41) Tri-Folded. Marniehttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53240 (Universal, 1964). One Sheet (26.75 X 41.5). Mothrahttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53257 (Columbia, 1962). One Sheet (27 X 41). Singin' in the Rainhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53330 (MGM, 1952). Window Card (14 X 22). Star Warshttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53345 (20th Century Fox, 1977). Three Sheet (41 X 81) Style A. The Godfatherhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53146 (Paramount, 1972). Six Sheet (81 X 81) Advance. The Rocky Horror Picture Showhttp://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=58073Lot_No=53308 (20th Century Fox, 1975). One Sheet (27 X 41) Style B. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand?
Correct, and that is why, if you go into the auction archives at Heritage, the realized prices includes the buyers premium. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/ - Original Message - From: Claude Littonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.kWhere do you stand? I try not to get involved with nonsense but this is beyond me. The buyer paid what he wrote a check for to a seller or the auction house. The seller received what he got from the auction house in a check. I just bought a poster from heritage for $1200 plus the buyers premium and the shipping charge to be added. Anyone who thinks I paid less needs math lessons. If you are trying to value a poster based on prices hammered, prices realized after additional charges,etc., you are tilting at windmills. Prices at any given moment are only an indication of the values at that particular time and a guide for the future. There is a major difference between an auction house that advertises well in advance, publishes a beautiful book and holds a live auction which includes bidders from all over via telephone, the floor, the internet and faxes, as opposed to a person not known (ebay hides sellers identities) who puts a poster on ebay for a week and hopes at least two people will engage in a bidding war. CJL -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.comhttp://www.tourtracker.com/?NCID=aolmus0005000112! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY
Freeman, Happy Birthday! (I can't believe I'm actually older than you...That's a little depressing.) Also, that was the BEST POST EVER ON MOPO!! Congratulations from a slightly older (not yet linenbacked) curmudgeon. Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY OR Verbally bitch slap a whiney know-it-all on MOPO on his tiresome and oft repeated declarations based on a single narrow and as written fallacious declarations and when it makes them cry I am a HARSH MEANIE. Oh pooh! Michael if you can't substantiate then ..damn I can't think of a word that rhymes. (And really all I want to talk about is THE DARK KNIGHT) BUT I NEED TO END THIS HERE (SCROLL TO DARK KNIGHT IF THE FOLLOWING CAUSES INFLAMATION) Michael's original posting Ron, your comment attests to the fact that UNBACKED, UNRESTORED is better. moreover, why back something due to minor flaws. backed posters are always suspect. Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM michael My sage and intelligent rebuttal - Is there a limit to the number of moronic statements a Mopo member can make in a week? Michael YOU WIMP I know you are capable (besides proper conjugation, punctuation, subject and predicate) of something clever but VICTIMIZED? That's so Jesse Jackson! You could have come back with (and I offer these free of charge, I am just that kind of guy) 1. Well I don't know how many posts Freeman, but you just used one! 2. Well gee Freeman show me a moronic statement, bitch! 3. Oh you tink you're so smart cuz you can spel. 4. I will not dignify that with an answer because I look stupid already 5. Who the Hell do you think you are..Claude LItton? I've read his posts and you sir are no Claude Litton! 6. That's my opinion and say what you want but that's MY opinion. (Of course I never pay a premium for pristine as everyone knows . :) QUESTION? Were you paper backed at an early age? Were you forced to stretch canvas in a windowless basement in Idaho? Did your Mom actually say to you Oh honey I wouldn't change a thing! Your constant demonizing of linen backing said in absolutes I am finally calling you on. NOTHING PERSONAL I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE ON MOPO..I WISH OTHERS WOULD CHIME IN. BUT AS A FRIEND DUDE YOU'VE BECOME CURRY. A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY. First It is not a fact unrestored and unbacked is better. There are countless rare one sheets, but more so French and Italian masterpieces of printing that require deacidification and backing to keep the inks from structurally eating the actual paper poster is printed on especially those pre-1960. Michael just throw out a number - of titles that represents. Forget it you'll hurt yourself. Its 11,612 potential posters give or take I think maybe. Second Linen backed posters are not even slightly suspect because anyone can determine what has been done. YOU DISPARAGE THE PROFESSIONALISM, ARTISTRY AND INTERGRTY OF THOSE GIFTED STEWARDS OF VINTAGE PAPER with such an egregious insult as well as dealers WHO INVEST WITH THEIR COLD HARD CASH TO PRESENT A POSTER AT ITS BEST DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO WHAT DEGREE and REVEAL HONESTLY AS BEST THEY CAN AT TIME OF SALE, TRADE OR CONSIGNMENT. Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide mostly far lately (Thank you Europe!). . So Michael get yourself two things no, three things. ONE a hand held black light for card stocks and TWO single halogen work lamp for posters. The veil is lifted, clarity can be yours! You can see with black-light the touch ups of even the most discreet and professional air brushing on card stock or other papers too opaque to have light pass through..With the halogen turn the poster facing the bulb and read the shadows that magically appear through the linen those shadows tell you touch ups, paper replacement, border repairs and sometime a phone number for Althea the Concession Girl who brings new meaning to the question extra butter? The THIRD thing a sense of humor.for God's sake I didn't back over you with my jeep. I am SAVING THAT FOR JEFF POTOKAR :)) To everyone who posted such lovely comments you made my Birthday.Yes I turned 52 yesterday.,DAMN! NOW MY ASS NEEDS BACKING discreet of courseDARIO! THE DARK KNIGHT My great friend, Ron Magid took me to an all media screening at the UNIVERSAL STUDIOS
[MOPO] MOPO Happy Birthday Freeman
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Re: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY
Freeman, I have four things to say in support of Linenbacking: A SAILOR MADE MAN Further, thank you for the succinct DARK KNIGHT review w/o the gushing spoilers you constantly lob like paper tape grenades when telling me about your fave films (and you know I'm kidding...or am I?). Happy Birthday! And may you have all the backing necessary for proper display...when not held up to the light, of course. Patrick (or am I?) ps: From what I've seen of Heath Ledger's performance it felt very reminiscent of Brandon Lee's performance in THE CROW. Post death, of course. On Jul 15, 2008, at 7:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OR Verbally bitch slap a whiney know-it-all on MOPO on his tiresome and oft repeated declarations based on a single narrow and as written fallacious declarations and when it makes them cry I am a HARSH MEANIE. Oh pooh! Michael if you can't substantiate then ..damn I can't think of a word that rhymes. (And really all I want to talk about is THE DARK KNIGHT) BUT I NEED TO END THIS HERE (SCROLL TO DARK KNIGHT IF THE FOLLOWING CAUSES INFLAMATION) Michael's original posting Ron, your comment attests to the fact that UNBACKED, UNRESTORED is better. moreover, why back something due to minor flaws. backed posters are always suspect. Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM michael My sage and intelligent rebuttal - Is there a limit to the number of moronic statements a Mopo member can make in a week? Michael YOU WIMP I know you are capable (besides proper conjugation, punctuation, subject and predicate) of something clever but VICTIMIZED? That's so Jesse Jackson! You could have come back with (and I offer these free of charge, I am just that kind of guy) 1. Well I don't know how many posts Freeman, but you just used one! 2. Well gee Freeman show me a moronic statement, bitch! 3. Oh you tink you're so smart cuz you can spel. 4. I will not dignify that with an answer because I look stupid already 5. Who the Hell do you think you are..Claude LItton? I've read his posts and you sir are no Claude Litton! 6. That's my opinion and say what you want but that's MY opinion. (Of course I never pay a premium for pristine as everyone knows . :) QUESTION? Were you paper backed at an early age? Were you forced to stretch canvas in a windowless basement in Idaho? Did your Mom actually say to you Oh honey I wouldn't change a thing! Your constant demonizing of linen backing said in absolutes I am finally calling you on. NOTHING PERSONAL I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE ON MOPO..I WISH OTHERS WOULD CHIME IN. BUT AS A FRIEND DUDE YOU'VE BECOME CURRY. A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY. First It is not a fact unrestored and unbacked is better. There are countless rare one sheets, but more so French and Italian masterpieces of printing that require deacidification and backing to keep the inks from structurally eating the actual paper poster is printed on especially those pre-1960. Michael just throw out a number - of titles that represents. Forget it you'll hurt yourself. Its 11,612 potential posters give or take I think maybe. Second Linen backed posters are not even slightly suspect because anyone can determine what has been done. YOU DISPARAGE THE PROFESSIONALISM, ARTISTRY AND INTERGRTY OF THOSE GIFTED STEWARDS OF VINTAGE PAPER with such an egregious insult as well as dealers WHO INVEST WITH THEIR COLD HARD CASH TO PRESENT A POSTER AT ITS BEST DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO WHAT DEGREE and REVEAL HONESTLY AS BEST THEY CAN AT TIME OF SALE, TRADE OR CONSIGNMENT. Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide mostly far lately (Thank you Europe!). . So Michael get yourself two things no, three things. ONE a hand held black light for card stocks and TWO single halogen work lamp for posters. The veil is lifted, clarity can be yours! You can see with black-light the touch ups of even the most discreet and professional air brushing on card stock or other papers too opaque to have light pass through..With the halogen turn the poster facing the bulb and read the shadows that magically appear through the linen those shadows tell you touch ups, paper replacement, border repairs and sometime a phone number for Althea the Concession Girl who brings new meaning to the question extra butter? The THIRD thing a sense of humor.for God's sake I didn't back over you with my jeep. I am SAVING THAT FOR JEFF POTOKAR :)) To everyone who posted such lovely comments you made my Birthday.Yes I turned 52
Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand?
That's the best one I've heard so far. Sorry for not responding to all the replys. I am normally off the computer Sunday and Monday. I didn't realize what a can or worms I was opening, but glad it sparked a good discussion. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/ - Original Message - From: Dale Diltsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.kWhere do you stand? For the married folks out there. If you bid out a poster at 1000.00, but the checking account is missing 1200, is your spouse going to think you paid 1000 or 1200 :) Paid = cost to own, has nothing to do with being a dealer or a collector. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:23 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.kWhere do you stand? Funny, but when I pay for that poster it seems like that was the price to me. Lock, stock and barrel. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.nethttp://www.movieart.net/ On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:40 PM, martin s wrote: FINALLY, someone who gets it! Thanks Craig, that's it exactly... The sales price of the poster is the $ amount when the auctioneer says SOLD. Everything added after that is a fee, tax, or shipping charge. As you said, it breaks down into collectors and dealers. Dealers need to roll all of those extra expenses into the total price paid, however, that is NOT the price that the poster SOLD for. If I paid 10K for a poster, 2k for BP, 825. for tax, and 100. for shipping, My total paid is $12,925, but the sale price of the poster is still 10K. Everything else is fees, taxes and other charges. Best wishes, M Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:03:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.kWhere do you stand? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU At 04:51 AM 7/13/2008, Roland Lataille wrote: I just won a one sheet Cinerama roadshow Circus World poster from Heritage for $60 plus $11.70 for BP. I would say I paid $71.70 for it. I think I got a pretty good deal as I was willing to pay a lot more for it. You don't see this Cinerama roadshow poster on Ebay very often. Seems to me there's a difference between the sales price (i.e. what the poster sold for) and the cost of acquiring it. If I buy a poster -- or anything -- from someone in person (or from someone from whom I can pick it up) there is no shipping fee. That doesn't mean the item sold for less. It means there were no added fees. While a Buyer's Premium is something I would have to pay if I bought a poster through an auction house, it is a fee that I need to be willing to pay but isn't truly part of the poster's price, no more than sales tax, or money later spent to fix up, linenback, or frame a poster. Those may be part of what I need or want to spend on the poster, but they aren't part of the price. Frankly, saying it is sounds more like dealers trying to find ways to push up the price of a poster. It sold for $1000 plus a 20% BP, so the real price is $1200. Next time, someone should pay $1150 plus a BP of 15% so the value will be $1440. It's a fee on a fee on a fee that people are using to artificially inflate the value. It is, I'll concede, more accurate to say the *cost* of the poster was the auction price plus all other expenses incurred. But that doesn't make it the value of the poster. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The i'm Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorldhttp://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com/ ___
[MOPO] $1.7 Million Realized in Heritage Vintage Movie Poster Auction
$1.7 Million Realized in Heritage Vintage Movie Poster Auction DALLAS, TEXAS: Heritage Auction Galleries' most recent Vintage Movie Poster Signature(r) auction, held July 11 12 in Dallas, Texas, realized $1,731,385 for 1,595 lots offered, although after-auction sales are still ongoing and are expected to push the final total to even higher levels. This was one of our largest offerings yet of rare and vintage movie paper, said Grey Smith, Director of Vintage Movie Poster Auctions for Dallas-based Heritage, including treasures from the very earliest days of motion pictures up through the more modern classics, and bidders responded enthusiastically. The two top pieces in the auction were both from the same movie, Smith said. Flying Down to Rio, from 1933, is a significant film in that it was the first on-screen pairing of legendary dancers Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. The two sheet and the midget window card, both extremely rare formats and both featuring fabulous full-color Art Deco artwork, were the subject of intense interest, and, when all was said and done, brought an astounding $26,290 each, most likely a record result for either format. Another exceptional result was the $25,095 realized for an incredibly clean, and likely unused, Creature from the Black Lagoon one sheet, Smith said. This has always been a strong title, with heavy collector demand, but this easily tops our previous price record of $20,315 set in July 2007. As a genre, 1950s science fiction remains solid, as seen in results like this as well as pieces like the Attack of the 50 Foot Woman that sold for $13,145, and the original Japanese B2 for Godzilla that brought $11,950. Quality film noir titles also did extremely well in this auction, Smith added, A one sheet for This Gun for Hire brought $22,705, an Out of the Past one sheet realized $16,730, and a Post-War re-release French Grande for The Maltese Falcon fetched $14,340. This is definitely a genre to keep an eye on going forward. Smith continued, Other results of note included four door panels for the Beatles' film Help!, rarely offered as a complete set, that sold for $19,120; a beautiful Italian 4-folio for the Rita Hayworth version of Salome, with art by Anselmo Ballester, which brought $19,120; a midget window card from Ex-Lady, which realized, $16,730; and the exceedingly rare pressbook from Dracula, the movie that made an instant star of Bela Lugosi, that achieved $15,535. We're already working on our next Vintage Movie Poster Signature(r) auction, said Smith, which will be held here in Dallas on November 7 8, 2008. Interested bidders should keep an eye on our website at www.HA.com/MoviePostershttp://www.HA.com/MoviePosters to watch the auction as it develops. Highlights of the July auction included: Flying Down to Riohttp://www.ha.com/694*28947type=prte-pr071408a (RKO, 1933). Two Sheet (41 X 54): REALIZED: $26,290 Flying Down to Riohttp://www.ha.com/694*28948type=prte-pr071408a (RKO, 1933). Midget Window Card (8 X 14): REALIZED: $26,290 Creature from the Black Lagoonhttp://www.ha.com/694*29422type=prte-pr071408a (Universal International, 1954). One Sheet (27 X 41): REALIZED: $25,095 This Gun for Hirehttp://www.ha.com/694*28176type=prte-pr071408a (Paramount, 1942). One Sheet (27 X 41): REALIZED: $22,705 Help!http://www.ha.com/694*28330type=prte-pr071408a (United Artists, 1965). Door Panel Set of 4 (20 X 60): REALIZED: $19, 120 Salomehttp://www.ha.com/694*29282type=prte-pr071408a (Columbia, 1953). Italian 4 - Folio (55 X 78): REALIZED: $19,120 Out of the Pasthttp://www.ha.com/694*28183type=prte-pr071408a (RKO, 1947). One Sheet (27 X 41): REALIZED: $16,730 Ex-Ladyhttp://www.ha.com/694*29245type=prte-pr071408a (Warner Brothers, 1933). Midget Window Card (8 X 14): REALIZED: $16,730 Thunderballhttp://www.ha.com/694*28662type=prte-pr071408a (United Artists, 1965). Advance British Quad or Quad Crown Poster Style A (30 X 40): REALIZED: $16,730 Draculahttp://www.ha.com/694*29360type=prte-pr071408a (Universal, 1931). Pressbook (13.5 X 19.5) (8 Pages): REALIZED: $15,535 The Maltese Falconhttp://www.ha.com/694*28258type=prte-pr071408a (Warner Brothers, R-1962). Post-War Release French Grande (47 X 63): REALIZED: $14,340 Sons of the Deserthttp://www.ha.com/694*28504type=prte-pr071408a (MGM, 1933). Midget Window Card (8 X 14): REALIZED: $13,145 Attack of the 50 Foot Womanhttp://www.ha.com/694*28592type=prte-pr071408a (Allied Artists, 1958). One Sheet (27 X 41): REALIZED: $13,145 Godzillahttp://www.ha.com/694*28576type=prte-pr071408a (Toho, 1954). Japanese B2 (20 X 28.5): REALIZED: $11,950 Fighting Caravanshttp://www.ha.com/694*28408type=prte-pr071408a (Paramount, 1931). One Sheet (26 X 39.75) Style B: REALIZED: $11,950 Gone with the Windhttp://www.ha.com/694*28007type=prte-pr071408a (MGM, 1939). Signed Original Costume Sketch of Ellen (17 X 22): REALIZED: $11,950
Re: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY
Freeman...you is a gas! Richard Richard Del Belso Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:46 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU OR Verbally bitch slap a whiney know-it-all on MOPO on his tiresome and oft repeated declarations based on a single narrow and as written fallacious declarations and when it makes them cry I am a HARSH MEANIE. Oh pooh! Michael if you can't substantiate then ..damn I can't think of a word that rhymes. (And really all I want to talk about is THE DARK KNIGHT) BUT I NEED TO END THIS HERE (SCROLL TO DARK KNIGHT IF THE FOLLOWING CAUSES INFLAMATION) Michael's original posting Ron, your comment attests to the fact that UNBACKED, UNRESTORED is better. moreover, why back something due to minor flaws. backed posters are always suspect. Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM michael My sage and intelligent rebuttal - Is there a limit to the number of moronic statements a Mopo member can make in a week? Michael YOU WIMP I know you are capable (besides proper conjugation, punctuation, subject and predicate) of something clever but VICTIMIZED? That's so Jesse Jackson! You could have come back with (and I offer these free of charge, I am just that kind of guy) 1. Well I don't know how many posts Freeman, but you just used one! 2. Well gee Freeman show me a moronic statement, bitch! 3. Oh you tink you're so smart cuz you can spel. 4. I will not dignify that with an answer because I look stupid already 5. Who the Hell do you think you are..Claude LItton? I've read his posts and you sir are no Claude Litton! 6. That's my opinion and say what you want but that's MY opinion. (Of course I never pay a premium for pristine as everyone knows . :) QUESTION? Were you paper backed at an early age? Were you forced to stretch canvas in a windowless basement in Idaho? Did your Mom actually say to you Oh honey I wouldn't change a thing! Your constant demonizing of linen backing said in absolutes I am finally calling you on. NOTHING PERSONAL I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE ON MOPO..I WISH OTHERS WOULD CHIME IN. BUT AS A FRIEND DUDE YOU'VE BECOME CURRY. A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY. First It is not a fact unrestored and unbacked is better. There are countless rare one sheets, but more so French and Italian masterpieces of printing that require deacidification and backing to keep the inks from structurally eating the actual paper poster is printed on especially those pre-1960. Michael just throw out a number - of titles that represents. Forget it you'll hurt yourself. Its 11,612 potential posters give or take I think maybe. Second Linen backed posters are not even slightly suspect because anyone can determine what has been done. YOU DISPARAGE THE PROFESSIONALISM, ARTISTRY AND INTERGRTY OF THOSE GIFTED STEWARDS OF VINTAGE PAPER with such an egregious insult as well as dealers WHO INVEST WITH THEIR COLD HARD CASH TO PRESENT A POSTER AT ITS BEST DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO WHAT DEGREE and REVEAL HONESTLY AS BEST THEY CAN AT TIME OF SALE, TRADE OR CONSIGNMENT. Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide mostly far lately (Thank you Europe!). . So Michael get yourself two things no, three things. ONE a hand held black light for card stocks and TWO single halogen work lamp for posters. The veil is lifted, clarity can be yours! You can see with black-light the touch ups of even the most discreet and professional air brushing on card stock or other papers too opaque to have light pass through..With the halogen turn the poster facing the bulb and read the shadows that magically appear through the linen those shadows tell you touch ups, paper replacement, border repairs and sometime a phone number for Althea the Concession Girl who brings new meaning to the question extra butter? The THIRD thing a sense of humor.for God's sake I didn't back over you with my jeep. I am SAVING THAT FOR JEFF POTOKAR :)) To everyone who posted such lovely comments you made my Birthday.Yes I turned 52 yesterday.,DAMN! NOW MY ASS NEEDS BACKING discreet of courseDARIO! THE DARK KNIGHT My great friend, Ron Magid took me to an all media screening at the UNIVERSAL STUDIOS IMAX last night . I cannot recommend enough this triumph of commercial yet intelligent and galvanizing storytelling. If you have the opportunity to see it at an IMAX, DO MAKE THE EFFORT. Extensive footage was shot in the IMAX format and
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are lurkers out there who may have another agenda. That certainly happened to me a few weeks ago right here on the group. So, we all live and learn and just like a marriage you have to take the good with the bad. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/ P.S..My post I started..O.Kwhere do you stand? about the buyer's premium was the most action I've had in months!! - Original Message - From: Claude Littonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.comhttp://www.tourtracker.com/?NCID=aolmus0005000112! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Sue: I don't know Freeman. He may be wonderful guy. But calling someone's opinion -- especially a thought out, defined opinion -- moronic is neither nice nor intelligent. He's saying no one is allowed to disagree with his opinion. Something nice people -- and polite people -- simply do not do. People are allowed to have differences of opinion. It's interesting to note throughout the hammer price/buyer's premium discussion, people who are poster dealers all agreed (all except Rudy, that is) that the buyer's premium *must* be added to the hammer price to determine the value of the poster. It's a philosophy that goes well toward raising the prices of their inventory. Are the dealers all so calculating as to want to artificially drive up the value of their merchandise? Perhaps not, but it isn't a difficult argument to make. Especially when the non-dealers all see it differently. And, only the dealers (and not just Freeman) have made comments that the people with differing opinions are stupid or fools or somesuch. Craig. At 10:24 AM 7/15/2008, Susan Heim wrote: I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are lurkers out there who may have another agenda. That certainly happened to me a few weeks ago right here on the group. So, we all live and learn and just like a marriage you have to take the good with the bad. Sue http://www.hollywoodposterframes.comwww.hollywoodposterframes.com P.S..My post I started..O.Kwhere do you stand? about the buyer's premium was the most action I've had in months!! - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Claude Litton To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Hey Craig, I do appreciate your opinion. I know you as my customer, fellow movie poster collector and know you are a very fair person. My experiences with Freeman have been positive. As I said, sometimes we all steer away from our regular demeanor for whatever reasons, ie. bad day, frustrations, whatever. I was not condoning anyone's bad behavior. As for the buyer's premium thread, I started it because I really wanted to hear what others had to say, to some degree to substantiate my own feeling. I am not what you would call a dealer. While I have sold movie posters, it's not my regular thing right now. I stated right off that I feel the buyers premium should be included in the final value of the poster. I get the drift about adding your hotel bill, your cab ride, etc. but I figured the most people wouldn't take it that far, while it does bring up some interesting thinking. (However, next time I have an auction in Beverly Hills, I might have to add the cost of cupcakes at Sprinkles to my final poster value!!) I consider Rudy a friend and an expert. I read what he posted with interest and then realized that a lot of what we were all discussing and arguing about was really a semantics issue. As I read all of the comments, and I was offline for Sunday and Monday, so am just reading most of them this morning, I realize how varied the opinions are and, more importantly, that sometimes it is just a case of semantics. Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster. Since I never have a credit at any auction house, that never applies to me. Now, I hadn't even considered shipping costs. So, the thread was interesting to me to see how others view it. If someone asks me how much I pay, I usually quote the hammer price plus the buyer's premium. In fact, the shipping should be applied, but I hadn't even thought of that. I get customers who call me all the time and start the conversation with I have a stupid question. I tell them no question is stupid (I know some of you are saying corny, huh!!). Same goes here on the group. I hear questions that often come from a new collector that might seem rudimentary to us old fogies. But I understand the origin and go with it. I have answered framing questions, many of them very basic, ad nauseum to this group, but the same questions keep coming and I keep answering them. That's my contribution for the most part and, while some on the group may be sick of hearing the answers, I still get private emails from people here on the group all the time thanking me for the info. As always, thank you Scott, for providing this venue for us to discuss and learn, not only about movie poster issues, but human nature. Take care all, Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/ - Original Message - From: Craig Millermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher Sue: I don't know Freeman. He may be wonderful guy. But calling someone's opinion -- especially a thought out, defined opinion -- moronic is neither nice nor intelligent. He's saying no one is allowed to disagree with his opinion. Something nice people -- and polite people -- simply do not do. People are allowed to have differences of opinion. It's interesting to note throughout the hammer price/buyer's premium discussion, people who are poster dealers all agreed (all except Rudy, that is) that the buyer's premium *must* be added to the hammer price to determine the value of the poster. It's a philosophy that goes well toward raising the prices of their inventory. Are the dealers all so calculating as to want to artificially drive up the value of their merchandise? Perhaps not, but it isn't a difficult argument to make. Especially when the non-dealers all see it differently. And, only the dealers (and not just Freeman) have made comments that the people with differing opinions are stupid or fools or somesuch. Craig. At 10:24 AM 7/15/2008, Susan Heim wrote: I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are lurkers out there who may have another agenda. That certainly
[MOPO] Please cut it out!
I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate insult! I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated. Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not. Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they *DO* act that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a microcosm of that here. If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or abortion, or gay marriage? I like MoPo, and I can't help noticing the number of people drops little by little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics like these don't contribute to that. If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!
Bruce, I agree that no minds appear to have been changed which is why I tried, feebly, to change the subject. However, I couldn't agree with you more. Gay Married folks with guns can do whatever they want... Patrick ps: methinks that's # 2 for me. So any further thoughts shall be post-poned until tomorrow. On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate insult! I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated. Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not. Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a microcosm of that here. If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or abortion, or gay marriage? I like MoPo, and I can't help noticing the number of people drops little by little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics like these don't contribute to that. If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!
If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading Dave Barry. So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books closing in a couple of hours. We put in a bid and won (10 books for $11 + $7 shipping) !! I clicked on the the paypal button and about 30 seconds later money transferred from the bank account (yes, my bank account) to someone, somewhere out in the ether. Yesterday, a box arrived with my books arrived and I left positive feedback for the seller. That was awful!!! eBay and paypal totally suck. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ---BeginMessage--- I dont like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate insult! I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated. Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not. Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a microcosm of that here. If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or abortion, or gay marriage? I like MoPo, and I cant help noticing the number of people drops little by little every week, and I cant help wondering if topics like these dont contribute to that. Ifyou need something to unify behind, why dont we discuss how awful eBay is? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ---End Message---
Re: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY
* Hi Freeman, Happy Birthday my friend!! And many more to come!! I value our friendship higly. Its been and it's a pleassure to have you around, always!! ** **DAMN! NOW MY ASS NEEDS BACKING discreet of courseDARIO! Thank goodness for puns. I back you any day. So let me say that your post is perfectly spoken. Have a cold one on me. Sincerely, Dario. * ** Richard Del Belso wrote: Freeman...you is a gas! Richard Richard Del Belso Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:11:46 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU OR Verbally bitch slap a whiney know-it-all on MOPO on his tiresome and oft repeated declarations based on a single narrow and as written fallacious declarations and when it makes them cry I am a HARSH MEANIE. Oh pooh! Michael if you can't substantiate then ..damn I can't think of a word that rhymes. (And really all I want to talk about is THE DARK KNIGHT) BUT I NEED TO END THIS HERE (SCROLL TO DARK KNIGHT IF THE FOLLOWING CAUSES INFLAMATION) Michael's original posting *Ron, your comment attests to the fact that UNBACKED, UNRESTORED is better.* *moreover, why back something due to minor flaws. backed posters are always suspect. Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM michael* My sage and intelligent rebuttal - *Is there a limit to the number of moronic statements a Mopo member can make in a week*? Michael YOU WIMP I know you are capable (besides proper conjugation, punctuation, subject and predicate) of something clever but VICTIMIZED? That's so *Jesse Jackson*! You could have come back with (and I offer these free of charge, I am just that kind of guy) 1. Well I don't know how many posts Freeman, but you just used one! 2. Well gee Freeman show me a moronic statement, bitch! 3. Oh you tink you're so smart cuz you can spel. 4. I will not dignify that with an answer because I look stupid already 5. Who the Hell do you think you are..Claude LItton? I've read his posts and you sir are no Claude Litton! 6. That's my opinion and say what you want but that's MY opinion. (Of course I never pay a premium for pristine as everyone knows . :) QUESTION? Were you paper backed at an early age? Were you forced to stretch canvas in a windowless basement in Idaho? Did your Mom actually say to you Oh honey I wouldn't change a thing! Your constant demonizing of linen backing said in absolutes I am finally calling you on. NOTHING PERSONAL I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE ON MOPO..I WISH OTHERS WOULD CHIME IN. BUT AS A FRIEND DUDE YOU'VE BECOME CURRY. A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY. First It is not a fact unrestored and unbacked is better. There are countless rare one sheets, but more so French and Italian masterpieces of printing that require deacidification and backing to keep the inks from structurally eating the actual paper poster is printed on especially those pre-1960. Michael just throw out a number - of titles that represents. Forget it you'll hurt yourself. Its 11,612 potential posters give or take I think maybe. Second Linen backed posters are not even slightly suspect because anyone can determine what has been done. YOU DISPARAGE THE PROFESSIONALISM, ARTISTRY AND INTERGRTY OF THOSE GIFTED STEWARDS OF VINTAGE PAPER with such an egregious insult as well as dealers WHO INVEST WITH THEIR COLD HARD CASH TO PRESENT A POSTER AT ITS BEST DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO WHAT DEGREE and REVEAL HONESTLY AS BEST THEY CAN AT TIME OF SALE, TRADE OR CONSIGNMENT. Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide mostly far lately (Thank you Europe!). . So Michael get yourself two things no, * three* things. ONE a hand held black light for card stocks and TWO single halogen work lamp for posters. The veil is lifted, clarity can be yours! You can see with black-light the touch ups of even the most discreet and professional air brushing on card stock or other papers too opaque to have light pass through..With the halogen turn the poster facing the bulb and read the shadows that magically appear through the linen those shadows tell you touch ups, paper replacement, border repairs and sometime a phone number for Althea the Concession Girl who brings new meaning to the question extra butter? The THIRD thing a sense of humor.for God's sake I didn't back over you with my jeep. I am SAVING THAT FOR JEFF POTOKAR :)) ** *To everyone who posted such lovely comments you made my Birthday.Yes I
Re: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY
Happy Birthday Freeman! What a passionate and intelligent group we are. Cheers, Toochis - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:11:46 AM Subject: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY OR Verbally bitch slap a whiney know-it-all on MOPO on his tiresome and oft repeated declarations based on a single narrow and as written fallacious declarations and when it makes them cry I am a HARSH MEANIE. Oh pooh! Michael if you can't substantiate then ..damn I can't think of a word that rhymes. (And really all I want to talk about is THE DARK KNIGHT) BUT I NEED TO END THIS HERE (SCROLL TO DARK KNIGHT IF THE FOLLOWING CAUSES INFLAMATION) Michael's original posting Ron, your comment attests to the fact that UNBACKED, UNRESTORED is better. moreover, why back something due to minor flaws. backed posters are always suspect. Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM michael My sage and intelligent rebuttal - Is there a limit to the number of moronic statements a Mopo member can make in a week? Michael YOU WIMP I know you are capable (besides proper conjugation, punctuation, subject and predicate) of something clever but VICTIMIZED? That's so Jesse Jackson! You could have come back with (and I offer these free of charge, I am just that kind of guy) 1. Well I don't know how many posts Freeman, but you just used one! 2. Well gee Freeman show me a moronic statement, bitch! 3. Oh you tink you're so smart cuz you can spel. 4. I will not dignify that with an answer because I look stupid already 5. Who the Hell do you think you are..Claude LItton? I've read his posts and you sir are no Claude Litton! 6. That's my opinion and say what you want but that's MY opinion. (Of course I never pay a premium for pristine as everyone knows . :) QUESTION? Were you paper backed at an early age? Were you forced to stretch canvas in a windowless basement in Idaho? Did your Mom actually say to you Oh honey I wouldn't change a thing! Your constant demonizing of linen backing said in absolutes I am finally calling you on. NOTHING PERSONAL I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE ON MOPO..I WISH OTHERS WOULD CHIME IN. BUT AS A FRIEND DUDE YOU'VE BECOME CURRY. A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY. First It is not a fact unrestored and unbacked is better. There are countless rare one sheets, but more so French and Italian masterpieces of printing that require deacidification and backing to keep the inks from structurally eating the actual paper poster is printed on especially those pre-1960. Michael just throw out a number - of titles that represents. Forget it you'll hurt yourself. Its 11,612 potential posters give or take I think maybe. Second Linen backed posters are not even slightly suspect because anyone can determine what has been done. YOU DISPARAGE THE PROFESSIONALISM, ARTISTRY AND INTERGRTY OF THOSE GIFTED STEWARDS OF VINTAGE PAPER with such an egregious insult as well as dealers WHO INVEST WITH THEIR COLD HARD CASH TO PRESENT A POSTER AT ITS BEST DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO WHAT DEGREE and REVEAL HONESTLY AS BEST THEY CAN AT TIME OF SALE, TRADE OR CONSIGNMENT. Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide mostly far lately (Thank you Europe!). . So Michael get yourself two things no, three things. ONE a hand held black light for card stocks and TWO single halogen work lamp for posters. The veil is lifted, clarity can be yours! You can see with black-light the touch ups of even the most discreet and professional air brushing on card stock or other papers too opaque to have light pass through..With the halogen turn the poster facing the bulb and read the shadows that magically appear through the linen those shadows tell you touch ups, paper replacement, border repairs and sometime a phone number for Althea the Concession Girl who brings new meaning to the question extra butter? The THIRD thing a sense of humor.for God's sake I didn't back over you with my jeep. I am SAVING THAT FOR JEFF POTOKAR :)) To everyone who posted such lovely comments you made my Birthday.Yes I turned 52 yesterday.,DAMN! NOW MY ASS NEEDS BACKING discreet of courseDARIO! THE DARK KNIGHT My great friend, Ron Magid took me to an all media screening at the UNIVERSAL STUDIOS IMAX last night . I cannot recommend enough this triumph of commercial yet intelligent and galvanizing storytelling. If you have the opportunity to see it at an IMAX,
Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!
You poor baby. I can't believe that happened to your son... and so young... Did I ever tell you about my kid brother, Captain Atheist? He was on the news, too. I think I'll get him the '10 Commandments' for Hanukah... (the poster). He'll go nuts! LOL!!! Hey, if he's an atheist, I'm not really discussing religion, right? Then, of course, it would mean Independents aren't really political... How many atheists and Independents are on Ebay? And, most importantly, how do these 'fringe' people feel about BP? Do they even subscribe to the PayPal mentality? Do they honor their restorers and leave sacrificial pots of touch-up paint? I don't trust them. Andrea On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Evan Zweifel wrote: If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading Dave Barry. So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books closing in a couple of hours. We put in a bid and won (10 books for $11 + $7 shipping) !! I clicked on the the paypal button and about 30 seconds later money transferred from the bank account (yes, my bank account) to someone, somewhere out in the ether. Yesterday, a box arrived with my books arrived and I left positive feedback for the seller. That was awful!!! eBay and paypal totally suck. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. From: Bruce Hershenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: July 15, 2008 3:52:09 PM EDT To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Please cut it out! I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate insult! I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated. Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not. Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a microcosm of that here. If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or abortion, or gay marriage? I like MoPo, and I can't help noticing the number of people drops little by little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics like these don't contribute to that. If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Let us resolve and work toward achieving some very simple propositions: There are no acceptable limits and there are no acceptable prejudices in the twenty-first century. - Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] and Happy Birthday to Freeman!
Whatever religion or political party you are. Whether you restore or not, in times of PayPal, and in times of wrong listings. I now pronounce you a year older! YAY FREEMAN!!! Let us resolve and work toward achieving some very simple propositions: There are no acceptable limits and there are no acceptable prejudices in the twenty-first century. - Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!
Bravo Evan.while there are definitely some issues Ebay could deal with better, I have had some wonderful experiences. My daughter, turning 12 tomorrow, and I collect Disney pins and Beatles memorabilia. We log on all the time together and have a blast finding just the right pin or some Beatles item that we have never seen before. As a seller, I deal daily with the downside of Ebay. However, I remember that Ebay has opened avenues of customers for me that I would otherwise not have. Not only have I developed a huge customer base, but have made some very nice collector friends along the way. So, for me, the good outweighs the annoying. I haven't found anything in life yet that is perfect! Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/ - Original Message - From: Evan Zweifelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out! If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading Dave Barry. So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books closing in a couple of hours. We put in a bid and won (10 books for $11 + $7 shipping) !! I clicked on the the paypal button and about 30 seconds later money transferred from the bank account (yes, my bank account) to someone, somewhere out in the ether. Yesterday, a box arrived with my books arrived and I left positive feedback for the seller. That was awful!!! eBay and paypal totally suck. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Please cut it out!
Hi Folks, I have gotta tell you.there are some great personalities on this site and enjoy mysemi-lurking considerably. These two post simply and emphatically got me laughing out loud. But to the point. Evan, this is really important to me. Do you feel the books (10) now have a value of $10.00 or $18.00?.Jus kidding folks; a little levity never hurts...Honest, don't want to start it again, right Sue..haha, Vaughn At 05:03 PM 7/15/2008 -0400, Freedom Lover wrote: You poor baby. I can't believe that happened to your son... and so young... Did I ever tell you about my kid brother, Captain Atheist? He was on the news, too. I think I'll get him the '10 Commandments' for Hanukah... (the poster). He'll go nuts! LOL!!! Hey, if he's an atheist, I'm not really discussing religion, right? Then, of course, it would mean Independents aren't really political... How many atheists and Independents are on Ebay? And, most importantly, how do these 'fringe' people feel about BP? Do they even subscribe to the PayPal mentality? Do they honor their restorers and leave sacrificial pots of touch-up paint? I don't trust them. Andrea On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Evan Zweifel wrote: If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? The other day, my son (who is 11) discovered the joys of reading Dave Barry. So we logged onto eBay found a lot of 10 books closing in a couple of hours. We put in a bid and won (10 books for $11 + $7 shipping) !! I clicked on the the paypal button and about 30 seconds later money transferred from the bank account (yes, my bank account) to someone, somewhere out in the ether. Yesterday, a box arrived with my books arrived and I left positive feedback for the seller. That was awful!!! eBay and paypal totally suck. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. From: Bruce Hershenson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: July 15, 2008 3:52:09 PM EDT To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Please cut it out! I don't like what I am seeing. First you all divide into two camps over whether the buyers premium should be included in the price, and then one side calls those who disagree morons, and then you all again divide into two camps over whether that is an appropriate insult! I understand you all have the right to do and say whatever you want, but is this not very counter-productive? No one is changing sides, and no one is convincing anyone of anything, and people are getting more heated. Remember J.R., that prolific poster who got in a big fight on these boards and then was never seen again (and of course the person who got into it with him almost never posts either)? Is this going to be an instant replay? Does MoPo have so many regular posters that it can afford to lose one or two of the best ones? I think not. Imagine the shape our world would be in if entire countries acted the way MoPo members did in this silly affair. Oh wait, they DO act that way, so look at what bad shape the world is in, and decide if you want a microcosm of that here. If you want to split the list down the middle discussing something that no one will ever change their minds on, why not discuss gun control or abortion, or gay marriage? I like MoPo, and I can't help noticing the number of people drops little by little every week, and I can't help wondering if topics like these don't contribute to that. If you need something to unify behind, why don't we discuss how awful eBay is? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Let us resolve and work toward achieving some very simple propositions: There are no acceptable limits and there are no acceptable prejudices in the twenty-first century.
Re: [MOPO] OH GOOD GRIEF FART IN CHURCH ONCE AND EVERYONE CALLS YOU STINKY
*Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide ...* ** I couldn't have said it better. Happy B-Day Freeman! Bruce, just the mention of J.R. brings back a flood of memories. All good. (Well, mostly good, anyway). pj (whoops! there I go coming out of lurkerdom...) aside:* *Hey Bro, come on in. The water's fine. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OR Verbally bitch slap a whiney know-it-all on MOPO on his tiresome and oft repeated declarations based on a single narrow and as written fallacious declarations and when it makes them cry I am a HARSH MEANIE. Oh pooh! Michael if you can't substantiate then ..damn I can't think of a word that rhymes. (And really all I want to talk about is THE DARK KNIGHT) BUT I NEED TO END THIS HERE (SCROLL TO DARK KNIGHT IF THE FOLLOWING CAUSES INFLAMATION) Michael's original posting Ron, your comment attests to the fact that UNBACKED, UNRESTORED is better. moreover, why back something due to minor flaws. backed posters are always suspect. Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM michael My sage and intelligent rebuttal - Is there a limit to the number of moronic statements a Mopo member can make in a week? Michael YOU WIMP I know you are capable (besides proper conjugation, punctuation, subject and predicate) of something clever but VICTIMIZED? That's so Jesse Jackson! You could have come back with (and I offer these free of charge, I am just that kind of guy) 1. Well I don't know how many posts Freeman, but you just used one! 2. Well gee Freeman show me a moronic statement, bitch! 3. Oh you tink you're so smart cuz you can spel. 4. I will not dignify that with an answer because I look stupid already 5. Who the Hell do you think you are..Claude LItton? I've read his posts and you sir are no Claude Litton! 6. That's my opinion and say what you want but that's MY opinion. (Of course I never pay a premium for pristine as everyone knows . :) QUESTION? Were you paper backed at an early age? Were you forced to stretch canvas in a windowless basement in Idaho? Did your Mom actually say to you Oh honey I wouldn't change a thing! Your constant demonizing of linen backing said in absolutes I am finally calling you on. NOTHING PERSONAL I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE ON MOPO..I WISH OTHERS WOULD CHIME IN. BUT AS A FRIEND DUDE YOU'VE BECOME CURRY. A LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY. First It is not a fact unrestored and unbacked is better. There are countless rare one sheets, but more so French and Italian masterpieces of printing that require deacidification and backing to keep the inks from structurally eating the actual paper poster is printed on especially those pre-1960. Michael just throw out a number - of titles that represents. Forget it you'll hurt yourself. Its 11,612 potential posters give or take I think maybe. Second Linen backed posters are not even slightly suspect because anyone can determine what has been done. YOU DISPARAGE THE PROFESSIONALISM, ARTISTRY AND INTERGRTY OF THOSE GIFTED STEWARDS OF VINTAGE PAPER with such an egregious insult as well as dealers WHO INVEST WITH THEIR COLD HARD CASH TO PRESENT A POSTER AT ITS BEST DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO WHAT DEGREE and REVEAL HONESTLY AS BEST THEY CAN AT TIME OF SALE, TRADE OR CONSIGNMENT. Michael I PROMISE YOU, MOST sellers are one with Angels bringing joy, happiness, and clever witticisms and bon mots of knowledge and expertise with enthusiasm and energy to collectors far and wide mostly far lately (Thank you Europe!). . So Michael get yourself two things no, three things. ONE a hand held black light for card stocks and TWO single halogen work lamp for posters. The veil is lifted, clarity can be yours! You can see with black-light the touch ups of even the most discreet and professional air brushing on card stock or other papers too opaque to have light pass through..With the halogen turn the poster facing the bulb and read the shadows that magically appear through the linen those shadows tell you touch ups, paper replacement, border repairs and sometime a phone number for Althea the Concession Girl who brings new meaning to the question extra butter? The THIRD thing a sense of humor.for God's sake I didn't back over you with my jeep. I am SAVING THAT FOR JEFF POTOKAR :)) To everyone who posted such lovely comments you made my Birthday.Yes I turned 52 yesterday.,DAMN! NOW MY ASS NEEDS BACKING discreet of courseDARIO! THE DARK KNIGHT My great friend, Ron Magid took me to an all media screening at the UNIVERSAL
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim .Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster. I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce's question of whether or not it matters if the buyer's premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I'm thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyer's premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why it's only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer's premium. That's a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer's premium of course). Yeah, they're only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying - We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I'm in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] wow
catching up on two days worth of e-mails and wow the summer doldrums are over...mopo has come alive...why settle in with TCM..i'm curling up with MoPo tonight Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] wow
Yes, it's a healthy blend of SOUTH PARK and THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. Phil - Original Message - From: Alan Heimann To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: [MOPO] wow catching up on two days worth of e-mails and wow the summer doldrums are over...mopo has come alive...why settle in with TCM..i'm curling up with MoPo tonight Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruces question of whether or not it matters if the buyers premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now Im thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyers premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why its only $600, but there is a 5000% buyers premium. Thats a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyers premium of course). Yeah, theyre only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but Im in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] List Business: Posting Overload?
I just wanted to mention to those of you who are complaining of being overwhelmed by the recent surge in the number of posts. (too many posts is a bad thing?? I think not!) Anyway... You can set your MoPo subscription to DIGEST MODE and receive messages in a single daily e-mail. That e-mail usually goes out in the morning (10 am US Eastern Time). You also have the option of seeing the digest in a basic text mode or in HTML. If you want to switch to DIGEST mode send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of the message type SET MOPO-L DIGEST or SET MOPO-L HTML DIGEST (if you prefer HTML). There should be nothing else in your e-mail. Make sure you send this e-mail from the account you used to subscribe to MoPo. If you have any issues, just let me know. If you want to switch from one style to another, I can easily do that for you. Also, if anyone wants to leave the list temporarily for a vacation or just a break, you don't have to unsubscribe. You can set your subscription to NOMAIL. You can still post if you want, but no messages are sent to you. Just send the command SET MOPO-L NOMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you want mail to resume, send SET MOPO-L MAIL. Again, I can easily make the switch for you--just drop me an e-mail. Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher and Sean
Surely when you bid with HA or who ever that charges a BO, then you figure that into your cost before you bid and bid accordingly. I mean, you want a poster, you are willing to pay $x, then if there is a BP, you say OK, my bid is $x minus %x so at the end of the day I pay what Im willing to..? SO I assume everyone thinks that, and end of the day, the final value pre BP is whatever the % the particular auction house charges less than the particular buyers max value for themselves. Movie posters values arent fixed like other things can be. its what your willing to spend, and if theres another who is willing to spend a similar amount. Ari --- On Wed, 16/7/08, Ron Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ron Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher and Sean To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Received: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 12:35 PM Hey guys, that's some pretty funny and clever banter/witticisms you're treating us to. Have you ever thought of starting your own movie poster blog? And I have to agree with Alan, I'm popping some Orville Redenbacher Theatre Buttered Popcorn and sitting back for the nightly MoPo festivities. --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 7:29 PM From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim .Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster. I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce's question of whether or not it matters if the buyer's premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I'm thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyer's premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why it's only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer's premium. That's a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer's premium of course). Yeah, they're only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying - We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I'm in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Bruce's Auctions
Bruce is wondering whether I remembered to bid on his auctions. This time, I did the immediate lowball bid approach on about 10 auctions. By the next day, I had lost the lead on most of them. There was only one poster that I was really interested in: Charlie McCarthy, Detective. I thought this poster would go for about $250, since there is a border corner missing and the economy stinks. But it managed to fetch $562, which I think is quite good. (I didn't bother bidding again.) For those who don't know, Edgar Bergen was ventriloquist, and his main dummy was Charlie McCarthy. For some inexplicable reason, they had one of the most popular radio shows during the golden age of radio. It makes no sense that they let a ventriloquist on the radio. It's almost as bad as putting a mime on the radio. I think it's one of the great mysteries of the universe that the show worked. -rk Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Bruce's Auctions
roger, -do a little reading on the duo and you will know why they were so popular and loved--even on the radio. it was also a different time and world.. simple ways to entertain the masses. jeff On Jul 15, 2008, at 9:11 PM, Roger Kim wrote: For some inexplicable reason, they had one of the most popular radio shows during the golden age of radio. It makes no sense that they let a ventriloquist on the radio. It's almost as bad as putting a mime on the radio. I think it's one of the great mysteries of the universe that the show worked. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
