Hi John,
On May 9, 2011, at 1:20 PM, John Carl wrote:
John:
What do you mean, Marsha? Don't you think cause exists at least in our own
heads?
Marsha:
As a skeptic it was because I didn't trust what went on in our heads that I
came to this list. What do we know and how do we
Hi Alvaer,
Steve's answer is the clue - fashion, 10 second attention spans, 15
minutes of fame, etc.
It's a memetic problem.
The ideas which spread are not the good ones, just the ones that are
easiest to spread.
And the ones that are easiest to spread are those than can be
communicated in the
Arlo said:
...The key is seeing that these structures both enable the agency of the driver
as well as constrain it. Our range of agency is not merely constrained by
structure, the structure provides the opportunity for agency as well. ...So we
are constrained by the road, but at the same time
Mark asked John
Missoula? Where on God's Green Earth is that?
You have read the book Mark, right ?
Ian
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Hi Arlo,
Would you please define 'agency' as you are using it so there is no quibbling
about the term.
Marsha
On May 9, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:
[Mark]
Freedom is a rig full of gas, a wide open road, a stack of audio CDs, and
some sweet rock and roll. Oh, yeah,
Hello again,
I found this:
The debate concerning the primacy of either structure or agency with regard to
human behavior is a central ontological issue in sociology, political science,
and the other social sciences. In this context, agency refers to the capacity
of individuals to act
[Marsha]
Would you please define 'agency' as you are using it so there is no
quibbling about the term.
[Arlo]
Has there been quibbling? Broadly, agency refers to capacity to
act, it is defined by range of possibility an actor has at any given
point in time. I use the term because freedom and
[Marsha]
Is this about an autonomous individual?
[Arlo]
No. In this paragraph the author is stating the extremes, or poles,
of structure (determinism?) and agency (free will?). There have
been other terms for these, but within structuration theories (such
as Giddens, Archer, Parker and
[Pirsig]
To say that A causes B or to say that B values
precondition A is to say the same thing.
[Craig, previously]
In precondition A (proximity of a magnet to iron filings) the
iron filings value B (movement of the iron filings toward
the magnet).
[Steve]
I knew you could figure it out.
On May 10, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:
[Marsha]
Is this about an autonomous individual?
[Arlo]
No. In this paragraph the author is stating the extremes, or poles, of
structure (determinism?) and agency (free will?). There have been other
terms for these, but within
[John]
Social perfection: Celebrity
[Tuukka]
I strongly disagree that being a celebrity would be any form of social
perfection.
IMHO efficiency would be thought of as perfection.
Craig
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[John said]
Social perfection: Celebrity
Wouldn't social perfection be a society that supports intellectual patterns?
The same way as biological perfection would be an organsim that can
support social value patterns?
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[leif]
Wouldn't social perfection be a society that supports intellectual patterns?
The same way as biological perfection would be an organsim that can
support social value patterns?
Then?
Inorganic perfection: Carbon
Biological perfection: Self-consciousness
Social perfection: Freedom
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